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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2024 10:45:02 GMT
Few tears from his supporters as tiny Tommy gets sent down for 18 months ? 😢 Imagine backing that scumbag and being a follower of his 🙄 Why do you think he is a scum bag, as all your posts indicate you no nothing about him or his politics? People follow him because there are no viable alternatives that get how people feel in this country about uncontrolled immigration, the impact that is having on public services, house prices, peoples wealth etc and of course the knife crime, grooming gangs, rapists and the increase in Islamic terrorists. Do what I did and have a more informed opinion, watch his films, read his book, listen to some interviews and then make an opinion rather than following the mainstream opinion of him like an ignorant little sheep. Immigration is controlled, just badly.
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Post by supergas on Oct 29, 2024 10:58:42 GMT
The economic competence of the Chancellor is incredibly important. We are coming up to the most important Budget for years and there are huge warning signs that the mainstream media is also studiously ignoring... The expected increase in capital gains tax and cuts to business asset disposal relief have led to twice the number of businesses voluntarily liquidating this October than did in October 2023 - 1600 and counting with a week to go, way more than any single month in the last thirteen... Borrowing is now £6.7 billion more than the OBR forecast so far this financial year and the OBR point out that's due to Labour's spending since the election. In what *sounds* like positive news, Capital Gains Tax receipts are up 16% in the third quarter - but that's people taking profits before the proposed increase. Even HMRC predicts a 10% CGT hike would lower tax revenues by £2 billion but it's widely expected to happen. The most interesting one is 10-year gilt yields have hit their highest level since Labour came to power and 0.03% higher than after the Truss budget. No media hysteria over it this time, I guess because it's not a Conservative government... All whilst Reeves has confirmed she’s rewriting how she calculates UK debt to allow her to borrow more money - something she specifically ruled out last year. If you think any of these are also "...non-stories..." we can review them in 12 months time... Looking forward to reviewing this in 12 months time , along with 18 months time ( now 17 months )when Starmer will no longer be the labour leader . All stacking up …. 😂👍 I'm pretty happy with my predictions - Starmer/Reeves/Rayner and the government overall are doing nothing to change the narrative that they are genuinely out of their depth politically and economically. If you think businesses voluntarily closing is not a big story wait until the effects factor through to the GDP and employment numbers. Labour are having challenging time defining what a "working person" is but as more and more people lose their jobs they can at least be assured Labour could then potentially raise their taxes... If you think that Labour will get a free-pass for for more than a few months if they take decisions that increase the debt/deficit I genuinely think you've misread the public mood, especially when spending is already going up because of decisions Labour made within weeks of taking power - but somehow didn't budget for. We all learned a lot about debt and deficit in the first ten year of the Conservative government and it was nearly balanced when Covid hit and plunged us back into chaos. When Reeves claims there is a £16.4bn £22bn £25bn £25bn+ £40bn £100bn, £22bn/year black hole yet has already spent billions on public sector pay deals, billions on carbon capture (£22bn, weird coincidence), and is pledging tax raids that will likely cost more money than they raise (non-doms, VAT on private schools, everyone will be asking why... Most damning of all is the experts (former senior BoE staff, current senior staff at large investment companies) who are saying the government negativity is one of the biggest drivers - three months of telling us the UK economy is tanking (it's not) has led some companies and some individuals to make decisions that will make it worse. Millionaires are relocating. Companies closing. Investors are leaving UK funds. It might be clever politics - they might pull a rabbit from the hat but I doubt they can define what a rabbit is....
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 11:18:03 GMT
Anyone else want to answer Sean’s questions? I’m losing the will to live .
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2024 11:42:15 GMT
Anyone else want to answer Sean’s questions? I’m losing the will to live . All yours Yatton, I'm busy. 😁 Just ignore, Sean's probably not going to listen to other's views or is persuadable.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 11:52:20 GMT
Anyone else want to answer Sean’s questions? I’m losing the will to live . All yours Yatton, I'm busy. 😁 Just ignore, Sean's probably not going to listen to other's views or is persuadable. Haha cheers mate ! 🙄 I know you’re right but I’ll just say this to Sean. Your mate Tiny Tommy went on the grift again days before his trial to raise money to fight his case . He raised 87k I believe and that’s probably higher now . He walked into court and pleaded guilty. Now if you can’t join the dots I can’t help you . #TwoTierJustice #FreeTommy
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 12:00:30 GMT
Looking forward to reviewing this in 12 months time , along with 18 months time ( now 17 months )when Starmer will no longer be the labour leader . All stacking up …. 😂👍 I'm pretty happy with my predictions - Starmer/Reeves/Rayner and the government overall are doing nothing to change the narrative that they are genuinely out of their depth politically and economically. If you think businesses voluntarily closing is not a big story wait until the effects factor through to the GDP and employment numbers. Labour are having challenging time defining what a "working person" is but as more and more people lose their jobs they can at least be assured Labour could then potentially raise their taxes... If you think that Labour will get a free-pass for for more than a few months if they take decisions that increase the debt/deficit I genuinely think you've misread the public mood, especially when spending is already going up because of decisions Labour made within weeks of taking power - but somehow didn't budget for. We all learned a lot about debt and deficit in the first ten year of the Conservative government and it was nearly balanced when Covid hit and plunged us back into chaos. When Reeves claims there is a £16.4bn £22bn £25bn £25bn+ £40bn £100bn, £22bn/year black hole yet has already spent billions on public sector pay deals, billions on carbon capture (£22bn, weird coincidence), and is pledging tax raids that will likely cost more money than they raise (non-doms, VAT on private schools, everyone will be asking why... Most damning of all is the experts (former senior BoE staff, current senior staff at large investment companies) who are saying the government negativity is one of the biggest drivers - three months of telling us the UK economy is tanking (it's not) has led some companies and some individuals to make decisions that will make it worse. Millionaires are relocating. Companies closing. Investors are leaving UK funds. It might be clever politics - they might pull a rabbit from the hat but I doubt they can define what a rabbit is.... Noted 😜
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 29, 2024 14:16:06 GMT
All yours Yatton, I'm busy. 😁 Just ignore, Sean's probably not going to listen to other's views or is persuadable. Haha cheers mate ! 🙄 I know you’re right but I’ll just say this to Sean. Your mate Tiny Tommy went on the grift again days before his trial to raise money to fight his case . He raised 87k I believe and that’s probably higher now . He walked into court and pleaded guilty. Now if you can’t join the dots I can’t help you . #TwoTierJustice #FreeTommy He's not my mate, he has learnt well from the politicians on how to grift. How could he not plead guilty when he was guilty??? or do you not understand simple law either??
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 29, 2024 14:18:21 GMT
Why do you think he is a scum bag, as all your posts indicate you no nothing about him or his politics? People follow him because there are no viable alternatives that get how people feel in this country about uncontrolled immigration, the impact that is having on public services, house prices, peoples wealth etc and of course the knife crime, grooming gangs, rapists and the increase in Islamic terrorists. Do what I did and have a more informed opinion, watch his films, read his book, listen to some interviews and then make an opinion rather than following the mainstream opinion of him like an ignorant little sheep. Immigration is controlled, just badly. 16000 since Two Tier to over, turning up on our beaches is not controlled, it criminal!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 29, 2024 14:22:20 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2024 14:41:11 GMT
Immigration is controlled, just badly. 16000 since Two Tier to over, turning up on our beaches is not controlled, it criminal! They get processed and are a small percentage of the overall immigration rates. Perhaps if we cooperated with our neighbours we'd sort things out. Tell me, the number of small boat crossings increased massively since 2020, what could possibly have caused that?
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2024 14:43:59 GMT
Haha cheers mate ! 🙄 I know you’re right but I’ll just say this to Sean. Your mate Tiny Tommy went on the grift again days before his trial to raise money to fight his case . He raised 87k I believe and that’s probably higher now . He walked into court and pleaded guilty. Now if you can’t join the dots I can’t help you . #TwoTierJustice #FreeTommy He's not my mate, he has learnt well from the politicians on how to grift. How could he not plead guilty when he was guilty??? or do you not understand simple law either?? He's able to plead not guilty, by pleading guilty he's looking for a shorter sentence. Glad you agree he is guilty, hope you didn't donate to his fighting fund.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 15:02:39 GMT
Haha cheers mate ! 🙄 I know you’re right but I’ll just say this to Sean. Your mate Tiny Tommy went on the grift again days before his trial to raise money to fight his case . He raised 87k I believe and that’s probably higher now . He walked into court and pleaded guilty. Now if you can’t join the dots I can’t help you . #TwoTierJustice #FreeTommy He's not my mate, he has learnt well from the politicians on how to grift. How could he not plead guilty when he was guilty??? or do you not understand simple law either?? It’s certainly not me who’s struggling to understand 🙄😂
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 15:13:10 GMT
Definitely not a scumbag….
Robinson's criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, cocaine possession with intent to supply, and public order offences.[133][134][135] He had previously served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[13][136][137] Assault In April 2005 at Luton Crown Court, Robinson was convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest against an off-duty police officer in July 2004. The officer had intervened in an argument in the street between Robinson and his then girlfriend, Jenna Vowles. In the struggle that followed, Robinson kicked the officer in the head as he lay on the ground. Robinson received sentences of 12 months and 3 months, which were served concurrently.[138] In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[139][33] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[140] Public order offence In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010. He was sentenced to a 12-month community rehabilitation order, 150 hours of unpaid work and given a three-year football banning order.[27][141] Use of false passport In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. He had used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from London Heathrow to New York City.[13] He had been banned from entering the US due to his criminal record. Upon arriving at John F. Kennedy International Airport, US Customs and Border Protection officials took his fingerprints, and discovered he was not McMaster. After being asked to attend a second interview, he left the airport, entering the US illegally in the process. He stayed one night and returned to the UK the following day using his own passport. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court after using a passport that did not belong to him to travel to the United States in September 2012. He was subsequently sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.[13][142][143] Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial."[13] He was released on an electronic tag on 22 February 2013.[144] Irish passport Via his mother, an Irish immigrant to Britain, Robinson reportedly qualifies for an Irish passport as Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. In August 2024, three Irish TDs asked their government to investigate the validity of his Irish passport after it emerged he had given his place of birth as "Ireland".[145] Mortgage fraud In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants.[146] He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.[147][143] Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of a series of frauds totalling £640,000. "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning." He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild. Rothschild had assisted some defendants by providing fake pay slips and income details.[136] Robinson was attacked by several fellow prisoners in HM Prison Woodhill.[148][149] Following news of the attack, Maajid Nawaz wrote to the Secretary of State for Justice, Chris Grayling, asking for Robinson's situation to be urgently addressed.[149][150] Shortly after this incident, Robinson was moved to HM Prison Winchester. Robinson told Jamie Bartlett, a director of the think tank Demos: "In Woodhill, I experienced Islam the gang. [...] In Winchester, I have experienced Islam the religion." Robinson made friends with several Muslim prisoners, referring to them as "great lads [...] I cannot speak highly enough of the Muslim inmates I'm now living with".[151] In June 2014, Robinson was released on licence. The terms of his early release included having no contact with the EDL until the end of his original sentence in June 2015.[151] He was due to talk to the Oxford Union in October 2014, but was recalled to prison before the event for breaching the terms of his licence.[152] He was ultimately released on 14 November 2014.[153] Imprisonment for contempt of court On 10 May 2017, Robinson was charged with contempt of court, and convicted.[133][134][135] He had filmed inside Canterbury Crown Court and posted prejudicial statements calling the defendants "Muslim child rapists" while the jury was deliberating. Judge Heather Norton said Robinson used "pejorative language in his broadcast which prejudged the outcome of the case and could have had the effect of substantially derailing the trial."[154] She added, "this is not about free speech, not about the freedom of the press, nor about legitimate journalism, and not about political correctness. It is about justice and ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly, it's about being innocent until proven guilty. It is about preserving the integrity of the jury to continue without people being intimidated or being affected by irresponsible and inaccurate 'reporting', if that's what it was."[155] The court later wrongly stated that Robinson had been sentenced to three months' imprisonment, suspended for 18 months and entered that incorrect result in the court records. In law, he had been committed to prison for a period of three months but suspended that committal for eighteen months. That technical error, the distinction between committed to prison and sentenced to imprisonment was identified and corrected by the Court of Appeal.[156] The incorrect result was reported in the press.[154][157] The ramifications of this technical error came into effect in 2018 when the suspended prison sentence was activated. Robinson was again found to be in contempt of court at Leeds, again wrongly given a sentence of imprisonment and the Canterbury suspended sentence activated.[156] Both sentences were for the offence of contempt of court, which can include speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced".[155] He was later released following a successful challenge to the court's sentencing procedure.[154] A rehearing was ordered. 2018 imprisonment Robinson was jailed and later released in mid-2018 for almost collapsing the Huddersfield grooming gang trial.[154][158] On 25 May 2018, Robinson was arrested for a breach of the peace while live streaming outside Leeds Crown Court[155][159] during the trial of the Huddersfield grooming gang on which reporting restrictions had been ordered by the judge.[160] Following Robinson's arrest, Judge Geoffrey Marson QC[161] issued a further reporting restriction on Robinson's case, prohibiting any reporting of Robinson's case or the grooming trial until the latter case was complete.[162][159] The reporting restriction with regard to Robinson was lifted on 29 May 2018, following a challenge by journalists. The media reported that Robinson had admitted contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial, and had been jailed for 13 months.[72] Judge Marson sentenced Robinson to ten months for contempt of court and his previous three months' suspended sentence was activated because of the breach. Robinson's lawyer said that Robinson felt "deep regret" after comprehending the potential consequences of his behaviour.[161] Having breached a temporary section 4 (2) order under the Contempt of Court Act 1981,[163] Robinson was told that if a retrial had to be held as a result of his actions the cost could be "hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds". Dominic Casciani, the BBC's home affairs correspondent, said, "This is not some new form of censorship directed at Robinson. These are rules that apply to us all, equally. If he is unsure about that, he's now got time on his hands to read a copy of Essential Law for Journalists."[161][164]
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 29, 2024 15:16:22 GMT
He's not my mate, he has learnt well from the politicians on how to grift. How could he not plead guilty when he was guilty??? or do you not understand simple law either?? He's able to plead not guilty, by pleading guilty he's looking for a shorter sentence. Glad you agree he is guilty, hope you didn't donate to his fighting fund. It's indisputable that he is guilty, his crime is contempt of court and he clearly is. He was told not to show his video of the Syrian kid case and he did. He showed it at a rally in July and posted it on his social media with over 50 million views so how could he plead not guilty? His video is still available, he has been told if he takes it down his sentence will be reduced. I would not donate to his fighting fund anymore than I would donate to Labour or the Tories funds
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 29, 2024 15:18:45 GMT
He's able to plead not guilty, by pleading guilty he's looking for a shorter sentence. Glad you agree he is guilty, hope you didn't donate to his fighting fund. It's indisputable that he is guilty, his crime is contempt of court and he clearly is. He was told not to show his video of the Syrian kid case and he did. He showed it at a rally in July and posted it on his social media with over 50 million views so how could he plead not guilty? His video is still available, he has been told if he takes it down his sentence will be reduced. I would not donate to his fighting fund anymore than I would donate to Labour or the Tories funds I agree he's guilty, but he can enter a plea of not guilty.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 15:30:35 GMT
It's indisputable that he is guilty, his crime is contempt of court and he clearly is. He was told not to show his video of the Syrian kid case and he did. He showed it at a rally in July and posted it on his social media with over 50 million views so how could he plead not guilty? His video is still available, he has been told if he takes it down his sentence will be reduced. I would not donate to his fighting fund anymore than I would donate to Labour or the Tories funds I agree he's guilty, but he can enter a plea of not guilty. Guilty because he lied yet people still put their faith in him for telling the ‘real’ truth . You couldn’t make it up . Just have a look at his criminal convictions.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 29, 2024 15:52:27 GMT
I agree he's guilty, but he can enter a plea of not guilty. Guilty because he lied yet people still put their faith in him for telling the ‘real’ truth . You couldn’t make it up . Just have a look at his criminal convictions. The judge said he lied and the 12 witnesses that included the head master, teachers and other pupils all lied. 12 people said one thing, the Syrian kid said another. The judge went with the Syrian kid. Go figure!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 29, 2024 16:06:43 GMT
"If you watch legacy television or read most papers, you'd struggle to find a recent interview with Tommy Robinson. Shamima Begum, maybe. True crime, limitless.
They might touch on his latest march or gathering, with left wing press making sure to zealously reiterate and tar every attendant as ‘Far Right’.
Many dig up archive footage and photos, portraying him as a snarling, thuggish thicko. And yet few ever pause to ask why hundreds of thousands of people showed support for his rally, or why his self produced documentaries attract millions of views. As far as I can see via a slapdash audit, nobody has endeavoured recently to understand what so many people seem to see in him. Instead, the metropolitan disdain of the journalist often takes centre stage.
I have found this both quizzical and concerning for a long time now.
Often it is the foreign press who ask the right questions. Who want to understand what is going on in Britain. Our cultural custodians simply will it away. And yet time often proves most phenomena are portents.
And so I decided to ask Tommy if he’d talk to me. Simply not engaging means not trying to understand the multitudes with Free Tommy banners. Just as the media never wanted to understand UKIP voters a decade ago. I got a sense that I know these people already. And they are depending on people like me to listen. To speak to him, for them.
In doing so, something within me crystallised. Something I knew already, but became searingly obvious as I listened to Stephen Yaxley Lennon recount his early activism.
His alien world of the untouchables is so remote from Fleet Street, the only way most journalists can engage with it is at arms length, and through the prism of a foreboding threat. Not an integral part of their own nation.
It's because, to most of the commentariat, it doesn't make sense. He shouldn't be in the world of politics, social analysis and opinion. Tommy Robinson armed with a camera is an anomaly. He didn't go to university, nor attend a prestigious journalism school. He wears a Burberry T Shirt, which I'm sure delights some among them by stirring up self aggrandizing feelings of superiority through being able to pejoratively fetishise the working class. He doesn't belong in their world. Not an ill-educated, brute that should have stayed on his sink estate and understood his station in life. And as for anyone who follows him? Well, they're surely the same. The useless, toothless, grubby idiots who voted for Brexit and don't have the grace nor intelligence to truly understand immigration. Yet perhaps due to their unsheltered viewpoint, they have an unhindered view.
Some have sneered at the crowdfund set up for him while he's in prison. Pay now and buy Tommy some coke! Tommy needs some new trainers! Look at all the money he is making in his Fascist cause! These, the educated elite. The very people who should understand that the fundamental tenet of fascism is control of thought and word.
Rather than having been conveyed along the travelator of privilege from a public school, to university, to a cosy job and ever higher up the ladder with every resource and leg-up one could wish for, he's done it himself. Just not with their people behind the cordon sanitaire. No middle class podcaster, charity executive, newspaper columnist nor think tanker would consider earning money from their activism somehow compromises their cause. After all, theirs is a noble pursuit that deserves rich rewards.
There is a laughable irony in the eagerness of a particular type to assume Tommy Robinson spends his money on booze and coke. Especially when such things are the fuel of the chattering middle class. A sizeable amount of squeamishness is patent hypocrisy. Rooted in classism.
A sneering, snobby, spite fuelled rancour was so keenly on full display during the Brexit years and has now found a new, perfect opportunity to be paraded once again. In Tommy they have a fresh, fitting fix about which they can puff their chests with superiority and exhibit high handedness in the most delicious, dinner-party-destined way. It must be an inconvenience that their previous Bete Noire Mr Farage now sits on the Green Benches. Tommy, however, is in prison.
Tommy lends himself to their disdain. Not only is he lauded among the working class. He is one of them. His wrongs have been tried in the courts of the land and he has been deemed unfit for public consumption. Meanwhile there has always been something about the working class that those above find romantic, yet disgusting and dangerous simultaneously.
Perhaps some fear the native working class because they have different codes and systems that their own lives lack. Survival strategies, suspicions and support networks borne out of necessity. A resilience they have never needed. They are in and out of each other's houses, have learnt life lessons that will forever evade many others, and have a generosity and loyalty that others envy and distrust.
Interviewing Tommy, something struck me. His upbringing on a chaotic estate where drugs were dealt, where allegiances and rivalries collided in a survival of the fittest that bred both steadfast loyalty and simmering grudges, has permeated his very being like letters within a stick of rock. To Tommy, it's about honour. It's about stepping up, defending the clan and fearing nobody. After all, he's only ever had so little to lose, with a sense of so much being at stake. The mindset of a fighter in a dog-eat-dog world. Plus a deep rooted sense that the system wasn't for people like him, so f*ck it. Break it. Rage against it.
It also struck me that, had by some twist of fate, young Stephen Lennon been born into an upper middle class family, where the mechanisms of society worked in his favour, he would have been naturally equipped to rise to the top. In a parallel universe of opportunity and privilege he would likely have wiped the floor with his classmates. Oxbridge might have been on the cards and a career as a lawyer could likely have awaited. For far from stupid, he has a brain that motors frantically, a mental agility that dodges, weaves and ducks. And while he stumbles over the sort of academic vocabulary a Russell Group graduate has had environmentally imbued into their posterior superior temporal lobe, the man can communicate. That is evidenced by his swathes of acolytes in numbers most politicians should envy.
The problem is, the Stephen Lennons of this world don't get the opportunity to rise. They are increasingly eternally condemned to the corners of the country where the perils of mass immigration decimate their communities. Where the decent enough jobs in industry have been given away. The potential of a career in the military robbed through ever cut troop numbers.
Their local boozer has been boarded up, unable to offset soaring costs by selling £25 gin and tonics to a clientele where the price of a pint is immaterial. Their neighbours increasingly don't know their names, sometimes not even their language. Their life stories are rarely told. Their futures are totally irrelevant to anybody else. And their worth is increasingly easily replaced by someone imported from abroad.
Working in pubs and nightclubs in Gloucester to pay my way through university, I have glimpsed at the chaos that can come with others’ struggle and strife. During the holidays, I would make crassly named cocktails for small-time gangsters, then during term time, serve boules of champagne to the progeny of minor European royals. I have lived among paradigm characters on both sides.
And yet while a middle class alcoholic exposed through a public breakdown can be celebrated for a mea culpa in a thoughtful column or get a book contract about mental health; while even a converted terrorist can be lionised for a miraculous Damescene Conversation and voraciously platformed as a beautiful curio, there is no redemption for the working class. Their imperfections remain ugly smears that they must carry as scarlet letters to close doors at every turn.
That is the fascinating thing about Tommy. Despite the demonisation, he has only grown bigger. Accrued more followers. Been invited to the Oxford Union where a room of the world's most privileged sat rapt as they listened to him paint a picture of his brutal, alien world. Prison hasn't prevented him. It's made him a martyr to many.
Tommy is a phenomenon, borne out of a perfectly aligned cocktail of increasing sociological necessity in a frantically changing world, and the emergence of man who, with dogged and reckless determination, has decided that this will be a fight to the end. A fight almost nobody else dares to enter. And fight he does. For good or for bad, this is now his cause, regardless of repercussions.
Underneath Tommy is Stephen. Or Yax. A kid raised with street smarts, honour amongst thieves, running with the pack and raging at the world’s injustices. A working class warrior with a hot head and self-righteous indignation, impatience and cockiness, fuelled by a tenacity and cunning that gets him into hot water, and out of it again. Yet also a vulnerable man with a copious heart who often rubs his head with frustrated pent up emotion, before swelling up and looming forward with an imposing stance of renewed resilience and a flashing fury in his eyes.
I can see who he is.
But I doubt most middle classes ever will.
And therein lies the very phenomenon of Tommy. Both born in, and now borne out of, that great gulf: The social schism and unresolved divide at the heart of it all."
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 16:12:22 GMT
Guilty because he lied yet people still put their faith in him for telling the ‘real’ truth . You couldn’t make it up . Just have a look at his criminal convictions. The judge said he lied and the 12 witnesses that included the head master, teachers and other pupils all lied. 12 people said one thing, the Syrian kid said another. The judge went with the Syrian kid. Ok , so now you’re saying he wasn’t guilty after saying he was guilty in your previous post ? The British justice system failed him, is that right ? blimey , what a position to find yourself in. You crack on watching his videos and believing his racist crap . Like Stu said , you ain’t gonna change your mind. But one thing , your views ( and his ) or not in the majority in this country. Most people are tolerant and progressive. That’s why his goons got faced down all over the country when they tried to riot and burn down hotels . Just a sad minority.
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