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Post by Gastafari on Jan 8, 2024 23:30:57 GMT
Is it that?
Or is that both Bristol clubs have been starved of pretty much any success and apart from City's few years in the late 70's no history of top flight Football?
Plus Bristol has the biggest Amateur/Semi Pro scene outside of London, where more people are playing Football themselves on weekends more than anywhere else.
If you combine both Bristol clubs home and away average attendances it's pretty much 30k home and over 3k away. Thats not bad at all for clubs that have always been pretty much lower league.
But our clubs wouldn’t be pretty much always lower league if the people of this city supported their football clubs in the same way as they do in other comparable sized places. What comes first? In other places it’s the local clubs that come first, success follows. It will rarely happen the other way around which is why we have mainly lower league teams. Just think how big the Bristol clubs would be if only half of Bristolians who support Liverpool or Man U instead actively supported their local club. Who says they don't?
Like I said Bristol has more amateur Footballers bar the Capital than anywhere else.
Also we havent even had a ground that can hold more than 12k for over 35 years.
Plus if Newcastle, Liverpool, Everton, Norwich or whoEver had spent prenty much their entire existence flirting in the lower leagues what do you think their attendances would be? I remember Newcastle getting crowds of about 13k in late 80's, early 90's themselves.
Again if we were a 1 team City and a Bristol United were averaging 30k home and 3k away averages every week playing in The Championship would you be saying the same thing?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 8, 2024 23:37:19 GMT
But our clubs wouldn’t be pretty much always lower league if the people of this city supported their football clubs in the same way as they do in other comparable sized places. What comes first? In other places it’s the local clubs that come first, success follows. It will rarely happen the other way around which is why we have mainly lower league teams. Just think how big the Bristol clubs would be if only half of Bristolians who support Liverpool or Man U instead actively supported their local club. The whole of the SW is a footballing backwater. Bristol, Swindon Exeter, FGR, Cheltenham and Plymouth from about 8 SW counties fgs. If it’s such a footballing backwater how come there are thousands upon thousands who support football clubs, only they support clubs from elsewhere because they win stuff! I’d agree with you if those people didn’t support anyone or didn’t like football but that’s not it is it? Football IS popular in the SW. The fact that there’s less clubs to share the support around than there is in say the North West means that our clubs could have fantastic support. The difference is attitude. Glory hunters in this part of the world are embraced and even the active fans of the local clubs make excuses for them. That doesn’t happen so much elsewhere where it’s more fashionable to support your local teams. |
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Post by bluestargas on Jan 8, 2024 23:50:09 GMT
What's the parking like near Anfield, setting off 6AM match day, any info on the best boozers close to the ground.
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Post by pepsi on Jan 9, 2024 0:28:04 GMT
Who else was there last time we had them in the cup ? Fantastic experience Yep, I was there, great day and night out .. |
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Post by gasmania on Jan 9, 2024 0:43:15 GMT
Interesting selection of comments from Norwich fans. Most seem keener on avoiding a humiliating spanking at the hands of a good side than the prospect of a decent day out and the possibility of a good result. Who was it who said football was all about glory? Danny Blanchflower maybe? I’d rather risk a drubbing from Klopp’s kids than be as negative as some Norwich fans seem to be. Always wondered the thoughts of fans of the yo-yo champ/prem teams about their fa cup runs generally. We are always chasing the carrot of this sort of draw but they've had the chance already to see it multiple times i suppose. Played the big prem teams semi regularly, probably know they'll get spanked, have seen it before and experienced supporting their teams at the grounds. Just get another championship team. Or get anyone lower than that and can't get very excited and fear the embarrassing knockout. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 9, 2024 1:31:41 GMT
I guess the novelty of the Prem wears off if you've been there and experienced it several times and realisticly have nothing to play for other than staying up.
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Post by gas2 on Jan 9, 2024 3:28:43 GMT
I wonder what joey Barton will be thinking if we go to Liverpool in the cup I bet he would Iove it ?
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 9, 2024 4:50:09 GMT
I'm sure Liverpool will want the game played Saturday 27th as they are home to Chelsea in Wednesday 31st Although they are also playing the Wednesday before in the second leg of the league cup final so Sunday could actually be better meaning they may rest more first team players with Chelsea only a few days later. Also if Fulham are still in with a chance come the second leg, its more likely Liverpool will play a strong team on the 24th as well. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 9, 2024 4:50:49 GMT
Would be very tempted to fly back for this game. Shame I've just used all my air miles for summer flights to and from the UK & Germany (for the Euro's)
EDIT: I've just realised my dad (who is a ST holder) will be visiting me in Qatar that week so would miss the game! Bet he's gutted he's coming now!
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 9, 2024 4:51:20 GMT
I wonder what joey Barton will be thinking if we go to Liverpool in the cup I bet he would Iove it ? I doubt he has even seen it yet, far too busy having a midlife crisis. |
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Post by pepsi on Jan 9, 2024 5:03:29 GMT
Just woke up to this news, fantastic draw.
Makes the Norwich game massive for us..
COYB's.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 9, 2024 5:32:48 GMT
The draw has created much excitement, understandably, BUT we do have a very difficult replay to win, If Norwich decide they want it badly enough and field the first team the odds will be stacked against us, (yes i know I'm a killjoy!) As others have said we will not be playing Liverpool the Premiership leaders ,but a representative 11 of that club, still a great away day for those who have not been there, probably only bettered by Spurs , The Mancs, Newcastle away. Not a great draw for Maidstone, Wrexham and co, great incentive for Eastleigh / Newport though, Gas heads may be in dream land but just think of the excitement at Eastleigh when they heard the draw!! After all not usually a place for excitement, though they did make us very welcome a few years back! As for fans supporting teams other than their home town clubs, never used to be thus back in the day, you were either Rovers or City , difficult to pinpoint when it started but i do know that Millions of Football fans world wide became Man United fans post Munich, perhaps it grew from there?
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 9, 2024 6:02:08 GMT
I wonder what joey Barton will be thinking if we go to Liverpool in the cup I bet he would Iove it ? He’ll be in the away end wearing a GHS tee shirt gesticulating at the Liverpool fans, quite possibly rolling his R’s and adding an L or two. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 9, 2024 6:22:55 GMT
The whole of the SW is a footballing backwater. Bristol, Swindon Exeter, FGR, Cheltenham and Plymouth from about 8 SW counties fgs. If it’s such a footballing backwater how come there are thousands upon thousands who support football clubs, only they support clubs from elsewhere because they win stuff! I’d agree with you if those people didn’t support anyone or didn’t like football but that’s not it is it? Football IS popular in the SW. The fact that there’s less clubs to share the support around than there is in say the North West means that our clubs could have fantastic support. The difference is attitude. Glory hunters in this part of the world are embraced and even the active fans of the local clubs make excuses for them. That doesn’t happen so much elsewhere where it’s more fashionable to support your local teams. Using the NW as an example then. You think Oldham, Preston, Stockport, Rochdale, Chester, Wigan and Bury don't have thousands of Man U, Liverpool and Man City fans aswell then? You can blame fans as much as you like and I don't make excuses for anybody. However, the fault also lies with the clubs and the way they run business. Success is a major part but compare our pricing and comfort rating with some others, then its no wonder why people like me aren't going to pay £25 a game for abysmal service. BTW, if you think England is bad, look at Spain! |
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Post by blueblood1883 on Jan 9, 2024 7:03:32 GMT
The draw has created much excitement, understandably, BUT we do have a very difficult replay to win, If Norwich decide they want it badly enough and field the first team the odds will be stacked against us, (yes i know I'm a killjoy!) As others have said we will not be playing Liverpool the Premiership leaders ,but a representative 11 of that club, still a great away day for those who have not been there, probably only bettered by Spurs , The Mancs, Newcastle away. Not a great draw for Maidstone, Wrexham and co, great incentive for Eastleigh / Newport though, Gas heads may be in dream land but just think of the excitement at Eastleigh when they heard the draw!! After all not usually a place for excitement, though they did make us very welcome a few years back! As for fans supporting teams other than their home town clubs, never used to be thus back in the day, you were either Rovers or City , difficult to pinpoint when it started but i do know that Millions of Football fans world wide became Man United fans post Munich, perhaps it grew from there? Back in the day it was quite common to support both teams .. My late father regularly went to Rovers and City's home games in the 60s ... |
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Post by playtowin on Jan 9, 2024 7:12:42 GMT
So close to Mabbs pitching us against Spurs in the draw. Would have preferred that as an away draw.
Ah well ,we get to play Liverpool reserves away instead.
Though we wont as i suspect the Norwich team will now be much more up for the game and will field a stronger side.
You never know though.
All these away fixtures are making it hard work for Rovers to win the Cup.
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 9, 2024 7:38:58 GMT
The draw has created much excitement, understandably, BUT we do have a very difficult replay to win, If Norwich decide they want it badly enough and field the first team the odds will be stacked against us, (yes i know I'm a killjoy!) As others have said we will not be playing Liverpool the Premiership leaders ,but a representative 11 of that club, still a great away day for those who have not been there, probably only bettered by Spurs , The Mancs, Newcastle away. Not a great draw for Maidstone, Wrexham and co, great incentive for Eastleigh / Newport though, Gas heads may be in dream land but just think of the excitement at Eastleigh when they heard the draw!! After all not usually a place for excitement, though they did make us very welcome a few years back! As for fans supporting teams other than their home town clubs, never used to be thus back in the day, you were either Rovers or City , difficult to pinpoint when it started but i do know that Millions of Football fans world wide became Man United fans post Munich, perhaps it grew from there? Back in the day it was quite common to support both teams .. My late father regularly went to Rovers and City's home games in the 60s ... True. My Great Grandfather had STs for city and Rovers. In fact there were a few of them in his mob. Home games every weekend. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 9, 2024 7:57:43 GMT
So close to Mabbs pitching us against Spurs in the draw. Would have preferred that as an away draw. Ah well ,we get to play Liverpool reserves away instead. Though we wont as i suspect the Norwich team will now be much more up for the game and will field a stronger side. You never know though. All these away fixtures are making it hard work for Rovers to win the Cup. Rovers at the Mem with a number of scouse players v Norwich who've hardly turned up for Wagner lately sounds the opposite? Even there fans sound like they'd sooner we played at Anfield. It'll be typical Rovers to now lose but the tie certainly looks winnable. |
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Post by bluecamel on Jan 9, 2024 8:03:05 GMT
Don’t get ahead of yourselves Gas heads - Norwich will want this fixture as much as we do. Liverpool have the fixture listed for Saturday 27/1 3pm - they play Chelsea on the following Wednesday.
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Post by percy on Jan 9, 2024 8:12:49 GMT
Don’t get ahead of yourselves Gas heads - Norwich will want this fixture as much as we do. Liverpool have the fixture listed for Saturday 27/1 3pm - they play Chelsea on the following Wednesday. That will change if picked for TV. Something else for Klopp to moan about and his poor squad of 200 players |
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