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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 15, 2024 11:27:47 GMT
I thought that was common knowledge. The club has a keen and younger fan start work on updating the O/S only to then offer him minimum wage, he rightly told them to get lost Didn't know that, thanks. I don't think anyone did, apart from the select few that seem to know everything, but go quiet if anything positive every happens 😂
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2024 11:49:01 GMT
I thought that was common knowledge. The club has a keen and younger fan start work on updating the O/S only to then offer him minimum wage, he rightly told them to get lost Didn't know that, thanks. You are welcome. Seemed like we were getting somewhere at long last. You can’t expect an IT guy to work for minimum wage IMO. Maybe others think differently ?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2024 11:54:38 GMT
The only signs i get at the moment are a club in run down. The new owners have done nothing yet to justify themselves. They sacked JB with no idea who was going to replace him or his staff whom it was no surprise that most went. The window at the moment is a one way journey and my hopes for this season which were high are now just on getting to 50 points and another season. As regards JCH the truth is that if we want a top striker on form then we will have to pay in excess of £600,000 whoever we go for and IMO as our record signing dates back to 1989 at £350,000 is it any real surprise that in 2024 you need to play double that to get a proven goalscorer. We are nowhere near ready for the Championship where to get the sort of quality needed you need to be paying over 2m for a player. Since the new owners came in we seem to be heading back to the tinpot days! The early signs do seem that way Steve. Are we back to luck and chemistry, again ?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2024 11:57:31 GMT
Didn't know that, thanks. I don't think anyone did, apart from the select few that seem to know everything, but go quiet if anything positive every happens 😂 Christ on a bike, I replied to someone who posted one of my very few tweets. Tell me, what do you see as being a positive from the time the new owner has taken over please as I’d be happy to know. It would be nice to give some praise
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Post by percy on Jan 15, 2024 11:59:46 GMT
Didn't know that, thanks. You are welcome. Seemed like we were getting somewhere at long last. You can’t expect an IT guy to work for minimum wage IMO. Maybe others think differently ? Not sure what the IT guy would be responsible for, but if mainly the websites etc then, a young web guy would easily be able to manage. My son is 19, does this and gets paid about min wage whilst he gets experience. Maybe I should get him to apply!
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2024 12:02:58 GMT
You are welcome. Seemed like we were getting somewhere at long last. You can’t expect an IT guy to work for minimum wage IMO. Maybe others think differently ? Not sure what the IT guy would be responsible for, but if mainly the websites etc then, a young web guy would easily be able to manage. My son is 19, does this and gets paid about min wage whilst he gets experience. Maybe I should get him to apply! If he would be happy doing that then why not. As I understand it, it’s updating the whole site and then being responsible for adding any updates that the club want added. Let him know.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 15, 2024 12:38:30 GMT
I don't think anyone did, apart from the select few that seem to know everything, but go quiet if anything positive every happens 😂 Christ on a bike, I replied to someone who posted one of my very few tweets. Tell me, what do you see as being a positive from the time the new owner has taken over please as I’d be happy to know. It would be nice to give some praise They haven't been here for long. If it's still like this in a years time, then it's time to moan. But you have to give people time. People say give a manager time, before writing them off, it's even more applicable when the owners. I just get people writing them off, after a few months.
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Post by bambergashead on Jan 15, 2024 13:39:30 GMT
The only signs i get at the moment are a club in run down. The new owners have done nothing yet to justify themselves. They sacked JB with no idea who was going to replace him or his staff whom it was no surprise that most went. The window at the moment is a one way journey and my hopes for this season which were high are now just on getting to 50 points and another season. As regards JCH the truth is that if we want a top striker on form then we will have to pay in excess of £600,000 whoever we go for and IMO as our record signing dates back to 1989 at £350,000 is it any real surprise that in 2024 you need to play double that to get a proven goalscorer. We are nowhere near ready for the Championship where to get the sort of quality needed you need to be paying over 2m for a player. Since the new owners came in we seem to be heading back to the tinpot days! So you'd rather have stuck with Barton's boom or bust including crocked and out of form players and absolutely no financial accountability...? About as sustainable as Bury.
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 15, 2024 21:56:15 GMT
bambergashead, That is rubbish. JB was still accountable to the owner (wael) who was paying the money. Due to the new owner we now appear to be heading back to the tinpot days which will be a great shame as I think Matt Taylor is a good Manager but needs some financial backing to replace the players we have lost and the backroom staff.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 15, 2024 22:10:31 GMT
I don't think anyone did, apart from the select few that seem to know everything, but go quiet if anything positive every happens 😂 Christ on a bike, I replied to someone who posted one of my very few tweets. Tell me, what do you see as being a positive from the time the new owner has taken over please as I’d be happy to know. It would be nice to give some praise Ridden us of the Liverpool mob you apparently detested Employed one of the better young managers at this level to replace him, retained the services of Kevin Bond and seem to have brought in a decent Assistant Manager. Resolved all the planning issues with the new stand and, hopefully, nearly completed it's construction which when it's finished will be our first major new stand in 50 years. Kicked Wael's idea of leasing the FM into touch and announced they'll be developing the Mem. Funded the wages of Martin who's rumoured by Pirate to be on £5K p.w. The team itself have got us within a game of what will be our biggest cup game since the Lambert era and potentially our biggest pay day ever. That's all just off the top of my head. What more did you expect in the 6 months or so they've been around?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 15, 2024 22:16:56 GMT
bambergashead, That is rubbish. JB was still accountable to the owner (wael) who was paying the money. Due to the new owner we now appear to be heading back to the tinpot days which will be a great shame as I think Matt Taylor is a good Manager but needs some financial backing to replace the players we have lost and the backroom staff. Your back to your old ways making out that the windows closed and we haven't signed anybody when the window is still very much open.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 15, 2024 22:18:13 GMT
The only signs i get at the moment are a club in run down. The new owners have done nothing yet to justify themselves. They sacked JB with no idea who was going to replace him or his staff whom it was no surprise that most went. The window at the moment is a one way journey and my hopes for this season which were high are now just on getting to 50 points and another season. As regards JCH the truth is that if we want a top striker on form then we will have to pay in excess of £600,000 whoever we go for and IMO as our record signing dates back to 1989 at £350,000 is it any real surprise that in 2024 you need to play double that to get a proven goalscorer. We are nowhere near ready for the Championship where to get the sort of quality needed you need to be paying over 2m for a player. Since the new owners came in we seem to be heading back to the tinpot days! So you'd rather have stuck with Barton's boom or bust including crocked and out of form players and absolutely no financial accountability...? About as sustainable as Bury. Steve's always just wanted any Rovers manager to spend £100K's on players, whether that was sustainable or not seems irrelevant to him.
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Post by albaron on Jan 15, 2024 22:24:32 GMT
So you'd rather have stuck with Barton's boom or bust including crocked and out of form players and absolutely no financial accountability...? About as sustainable as Bury. Steve's always just wanted any Rovers manager to spend £100K's on players, whether that was sustainable or not seems irrelevant to him. At least Steve knows what he is talking about
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Post by syg on Jan 15, 2024 22:38:19 GMT
The only signs i get at the moment are a club in run down. The new owners have done nothing yet to justify themselves. They sacked JB with no idea who was going to replace him or his staff whom it was no surprise that most went. The window at the moment is a one way journey and my hopes for this season which were high are now just on getting to 50 points and another season. As regards JCH the truth is that if we want a top striker on form then we will have to pay in excess of £600,000 whoever we go for and IMO as our record signing dates back to 1989 at £350,000 is it any real surprise that in 2024 you need to play double that to get a proven goalscorer. We are nowhere near ready for the Championship where to get the sort of quality needed you need to be paying over 2m for a player. Since the new owners came in we seem to be heading back to the tinpot days! So you'd rather have stuck with Barton's boom or bust including crocked and out of form players and absolutely no financial accountability...? About as sustainable as Bury. Have you seen that new big stand thing with lots of blue seats? It didn't pop out of the ground when aliens came don't and make contact. Oh no, someone spend a shed load of money to build it.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jan 15, 2024 23:04:51 GMT
Christ on a bike, I replied to someone who posted one of my very few tweets. Tell me, what do you see as being a positive from the time the new owner has taken over please as I’d be happy to know. It would be nice to give some praise They haven't been here for long. If it's still like this in a years time, then it's time to moan. But you have to give people time. People say give a manager time, before writing them off, it's even more applicable when the owners. I just get people writing them off, after a few months. Agree👍But at this moment in time I’m less than overwhelmed’ 🤔😏💙Utg
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Post by phillistine on Jan 16, 2024 5:43:56 GMT
They haven't been here for long. If it's still like this in a years time, then it's time to moan. But you have to give people time. People say give a manager time, before writing them off, it's even more applicable when the owners. I just get people writing them off, after a few months. Agree👍But at this moment in time I’m less than overwhelmed’ 🤔😏💙Utg Whilst I am not “ overwhelmed “ , I do feel encouraged and have yet to see anything that has made me feel that the club is in anything other than good hands . JB’s influence at the club was unhealthy and he felt able to say what he wanted and the negativity from his post match interviews showed itself in the lack of resilience on the pitch - we were going nowhere on a very bumpy road. You could argue that Wael was too trusting in allowing that situation to arise but the new owner stopped it and took his time to make sure that they got the man they thought was right for the job. The early signs are encouraging as we seem to be more resilient now and do not capitulate when we go a goal down. Norwich away and Barnsley are key examples . He got rid of the Fruit Market as it was plainly not viable and the stand is nearing completion. In this the first transfer market we have so far moved out a number of players who did not feature in the first team . It has been publicly stated since the Crewe game away that we were no longer interested in JCH as he was not the type of player that would suit the style of play that MT favoured. Whilst we have yet to sign anyone - I would rather us do that than waste budget on someone just to curry public favour. The reality is that there are some people who will look for negative in whatever the owners do and they will accept that as should we the fans who want to see our club succeed. I am not overwhelmed and I would be suspicious if I was simply because I prefer the understated people who try to so things properly and are not fools with their money. Yes it’s nice when an owner flashes the cash but that doesn’t last unless you are a top Premier club and even they are now reaping the rewards as more points deductions are on the way. Most of us are sensible when it comes to spending our own money so why do we take issue when the owner refuses to get rippped off by agents. When I first started watching the Gas over 40 years ago we were in this League in roughly the same spot and so you could say that we have gone nowhere in that time. So forgive me if I don’t start to jump up and down in irritation if a new owner doesn’t transform the results on the pitch within 2 or 3 months of taking over. At the moment we have a lot of ground to make up and so it is folly to spend too much on poor value players now for a long shot. Why not wait until the summer and use the money wisely to build for a sustained promotion bid with a team of MT’s making. For those of you who choose the route of negativity - let me ask you a serious questions - why do you think the owner purchased his controlling interest in the club? Why would someone invest millions in a project and then simply underfund it? What will that gain them? I am genuninely curious as to what you think is going on because your interpretation makes absolutely no sense to me at all .
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 8:53:03 GMT
Christ on a bike, I replied to someone who posted one of my very few tweets. Tell me, what do you see as being a positive from the time the new owner has taken over please as I’d be happy to know. It would be nice to give some praise They haven't been here for long. If it's still like this in a years time, then it's time to moan. But you have to give people time. People say give a manager time, before writing them off, it's even more applicable when the owners. I just get people writing them off, after a few months. Thing is I wrote a reply that was about a job and not about the club but it seems some just wish to change the tack of a post which suits their agenda. I agree about giving time btw but I also just cannot help but question some of the smaller things, that many would not do. Yes, give them time but please get the small things right. The club website is where most would go for updates, we are a minority who use this forum. Maybe that is a good thing
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:00:30 GMT
So you'd rather have stuck with Barton's boom or bust including crocked and out of form players and absolutely no financial accountability...? About as sustainable as Bury. Have you seen that new big stand thing with lots of blue seats? It didn't pop out of the ground when aliens came don't and make contact. Oh no, someone spend a shed load of money to build it. Out of interest, has the loan for the stand been paid back as I seem to remember someone posting that the new owner would not take on debts ?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:02:00 GMT
Why do they call him the bullet dodger? Go on, I’ll bite, why do ( if so) they call him that ?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 16, 2024 10:51:14 GMT
They haven't been here for long. If it's still like this in a years time, then it's time to moan. But you have to give people time. People say give a manager time, before writing them off, it's even more applicable when the owners. I just get people writing them off, after a few months. Thing is I wrote a reply that was about a job and not about the club but it seems some just wish to change the tack of a post which suits their agenda. I agree about giving time btw but I also just cannot help but question some of the smaller things, that many would not do. Yes, give them time but please get the small things right. The club website is where most would go for updates, we are a minority who use this forum. Maybe that is a good thing Although I replied to you, my post was in general. No harm in picking faults and saying we we can do better and what we need etc. It was more aimed at the posters that have written them off already. At this stage, I don't think anyone can be totally for or against them. So no harm, in debating it. Personally I think they have written off this season already and they want to make sure they have faith in the manager, before backing him. So I will judge them more, after the summer window. I want to see the squad taking shape and have updates on the stadium and training plans by then.
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