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Post by chewbacca on May 8, 2024 8:22:58 GMT
Them all. We're Football's Poundland.
I wouldn't say many from the following list were not bargains:
1 Jason Roberts 00/01 West Brom €3.00m
2 Barry Hayles 98/99 Fulham €3.00m
3 Gareth Taylor 95/96 Crystal Palace €1.90m
4 Nathan Ellington 01/02 Wigan €1.80m
5 Marcus Stewart 96/97 Huddersfield €1.80m
6 Nigel Martyn 89/90 Crystal Palace €1.50m
7 Jonson Clarke-Harris 20/21 Peterborough €1.40m
8 Rickie Lambert 09/10 Southampton €1.20m
9 Aaron Collins 23/24 Bolton €880k
10 Ellis Harrison 18/19 Ipswich €840k
11 Steve Yates 93/94 QPR €820k
12 Marcus Browning 96/97 Huddersfield €750k
13 Mustapha Carayol 12/13 Middlesbrough €640k
14 Gary Penrice 88/89 Watford €630k
15 Will Hoskins 11/12 Brighton €565k
16 Billy Bodin 17/18 Preston €450k
17 Jamie Cureton 00/01 Reading €368k
18 Peter Beadle 98/99 Port Vale €367k
19 Matty Taylor 16/17 Bristol City €350k
20 Justin Channing 96/97 Leyton Orient €318k
Values in Euros from Transfermarkt
cant remember Leyton buying channing off us?thought he just left Transfermarkt is a handy tool but can be a bit off from time to time. |
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Post by TAGas on May 8, 2024 8:23:55 GMT
BWFC fans all over Twitter saying what a brilliant player Azza is and that they cannot believe how they got him so cheaply. Honestly, it’s like seeing your ex, who you still have feelings for, walking around with her hunky boyfriend in the local shopping centre. If Bolton sold him now, they’ve probably get £6m for him. Mug by the player this time, I just hope JCH or Bodin pops up with an injury time winner at Wembley and he's back at the Mem next season whilst still awaiting a Wales call up. I have to agree with this |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 8, 2024 8:46:19 GMT
Apart from snake who have we sold for a bargain? Them all. We're Football's Poundland.
I wouldn't say many from the following list were not bargains:
1 Jason Roberts 00/01 West Brom €3.00m
2 Barry Hayles 98/99 Fulham €3.00m
3 Gareth Taylor 95/96 Crystal Palace €1.90m
4 Nathan Ellington 01/02 Wigan €1.80m
5 Marcus Stewart 96/97 Huddersfield €1.80m
6 Nigel Martyn 89/90 Crystal Palace €1.50m
7 Jonson Clarke-Harris 20/21 Peterborough €1.40m
8 Rickie Lambert 09/10 Southampton €1.20m
9 Aaron Collins 23/24 Bolton €880k
10 Ellis Harrison 18/19 Ipswich €840k
11 Steve Yates 93/94 QPR €820k
12 Marcus Browning 96/97 Huddersfield €750k
13 Mustapha Carayol 12/13 Middlesbrough €640k
14 Gary Penrice 88/89 Watford €630k
15 Will Hoskins 11/12 Brighton €565k
16 Billy Bodin 17/18 Preston €450k
17 Jamie Cureton 00/01 Reading €368k
18 Peter Beadle 98/99 Port Vale €367k
19 Matty Taylor 16/17 Bristol City €350k
20 Justin Channing 96/97 Leyton Orient €318k
Values in Euros from Transfermarkt
Also need to factor in football inflation. |
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Post by curlywurly on May 8, 2024 9:14:36 GMT
Them all. We're Football's Poundland.
I wouldn't say many from the following list were not bargains:
1 Jason Roberts 00/01 West Brom €3.00m
2 Barry Hayles 98/99 Fulham €3.00m
3 Gareth Taylor 95/96 Crystal Palace €1.90m
4 Nathan Ellington 01/02 Wigan €1.80m
5 Marcus Stewart 96/97 Huddersfield €1.80m
6 Nigel Martyn 89/90 Crystal Palace €1.50m
7 Jonson Clarke-Harris 20/21 Peterborough €1.40m
8 Rickie Lambert 09/10 Southampton €1.20m
9 Aaron Collins 23/24 Bolton €880k
10 Ellis Harrison 18/19 Ipswich €840k
11 Steve Yates 93/94 QPR €820k
12 Marcus Browning 96/97 Huddersfield €750k
13 Mustapha Carayol 12/13 Middlesbrough €640k
14 Gary Penrice 88/89 Watford €630k
15 Will Hoskins 11/12 Brighton €565k
16 Billy Bodin 17/18 Preston €450k
17 Jamie Cureton 00/01 Reading €368k
18 Peter Beadle 98/99 Port Vale €367k
19 Matty Taylor 16/17 Bristol City €350k
20 Justin Channing 96/97 Leyton Orient €318k
Values in Euros from Transfermarkt
Also need to factor in football inflation. It took long enough to get the figures in order, and now you want me to adjust for inflation! You'll be asking for values in £ and accurate information next!! |
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Post by curlywurly on May 8, 2024 9:19:29 GMT
Them all. We're Football's Poundland.
I wouldn't say many from the following list were not bargains:
1 Jason Roberts 00/01 West Brom €3.00m
2 Barry Hayles 98/99 Fulham €3.00m
3 Gareth Taylor 95/96 Crystal Palace €1.90m
4 Nathan Ellington 01/02 Wigan €1.80m
5 Marcus Stewart 96/97 Huddersfield €1.80m
6 Nigel Martyn 89/90 Crystal Palace €1.50m
7 Jonson Clarke-Harris 20/21 Peterborough €1.40m
8 Rickie Lambert 09/10 Southampton €1.20m
9 Aaron Collins 23/24 Bolton €880k
10 Ellis Harrison 18/19 Ipswich €840k
11 Steve Yates 93/94 QPR €820k
12 Marcus Browning 96/97 Huddersfield €750k
13 Mustapha Carayol 12/13 Middlesbrough €640k
14 Gary Penrice 88/89 Watford €630k
15 Will Hoskins 11/12 Brighton €565k
16 Billy Bodin 17/18 Preston €450k
17 Jamie Cureton 00/01 Reading €368k
18 Peter Beadle 98/99 Port Vale €367k
19 Matty Taylor 16/17 Bristol City €350k
20 Justin Channing 96/97 Leyton Orient €318k
Values in Euros from Transfermarkt
cant remember Leyton buying channing off us?thought he just left I think you're right. We bought Channing from QPR for a reported £250k. All other sources suggest he went to Orient on a free.
Point still remains that nearly all these players went on to have success at a higher level and the values are peanuts compared to transfer fees extracted by clubs at a similar level to Rovers.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 8, 2024 9:25:58 GMT
Mug by the player this time, I just hope JCH or Bodin pops up with an injury time winner at Wembley and he's back at the Mem next season whilst still awaiting a Wales call up. Watching him for Bolton you could see they played a way that suited him - like we did for about 2 half seasons. Fast attacking quick passing, but direct football. He thrives on it. So many one touch releases in the two games to create opportunities. Unfortunately, we started playing laboured, slow, tippy tappy football and this seem to coincide with his poor form. Maybe I am revising history, I dunno, but will always be one of my favourite recent players, and his celebrations are legendary, so good luck Azza. Hope you smash it. Agreed, I'd love to see him playing in the Championship. |
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Post by richie on May 8, 2024 9:31:20 GMT
bit of realism at the time Nigel Martyn was the worlds most expensive goalkeeper when we sold him to Palace. - just to put that into context Kepa Arrizabalaga went for £70m in 2018
also clubs used to have some money to spend these days with the exception of a few only teams in the championship and above have money to spend
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Post by chewbacca on May 8, 2024 9:32:28 GMT
cant remember Leyton buying channing off us?thought he just left I think you're right. We bought Channing from QPR for a reported £250k. All other sources suggest he went to Orient on a free.
Point still remains that nearly all these players went on to have success at a higher level and the values are peanuts compared to transfer fees extracted by clubs at a similar level to Rovers.
The one thing the Dunford's era did well was get pretty good transfer fees in. Getting a national record fee AND Brian Parkin for instance was superb work. If we were churning players like we were in the 90's now our balance sheet would look a lot healthier. We seemed to have a decent sale every year. |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 8, 2024 9:35:37 GMT
Also need to factor in football inflation. It took long enough to get the figures in order, and now you want me to adjust for inflation! You'll be asking for values in £ and accurate information next!! It's Gaschat, just make them up!😇 |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 8, 2024 9:50:35 GMT
bit of realism at the time Nigel Martyn was the worlds most expensive goalkeeper when we sold him to Palace. - just to put that into context Kepa Arrizabalaga went for £70m in 2018 also clubs used to have some money to spend these days with the exception of a few only teams in the championship and above have money to spend Which sort of brings me to the football inflation I was referring to. If we take Andy Tilson as an example, today that £370,000 fee would be £800,000 or thereabouts. However, at the time it represented c.10% of the national record. So today would he cost less than £1m or many millions? |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 8, 2024 9:53:38 GMT
I think you're right. We bought Channing from QPR for a reported £250k. All other sources suggest he went to Orient on a free.
Point still remains that nearly all these players went on to have success at a higher level and the values are peanuts compared to transfer fees extracted by clubs at a similar level to Rovers.
The one thing the Dunford's era did well was get pretty good transfer fees in. Getting a national record fee AND Brian Parkin for instance was superb work. If we were churning players like we were in the 90's now our balance sheet would look a lot healthier. We seemed to have a decent sale every year. From memory, our pipeline of decent fees dried up around the end of the Holloway period and became patchy since. Coincidentally our annual losses started no longer being covered and our form dipped. Maybe there is a connection between getting good, regular fees and our erratic form. |
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Post by richie on May 8, 2024 10:02:00 GMT
the club is only partially to blame for the fees we get the whole state of football finance is whats driving it
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2024 10:06:49 GMT
Mug by the player this time, I just hope JCH or Bodin pops up with an injury time winner at Wembley and he's back at the Mem next season whilst still awaiting a Wales call up. Watching him for Bolton you could see they played a way that suited him - like we did for about 2 half seasons. Fast attacking quick passing, but direct football. He thrives on it. So many one touch releases in the two games to create opportunities. Unfortunately, we started playing laboured, slow, tippy tappy football and this seem to coincide with his poor form. Maybe I am revising history, I dunno, but will always be one of my favourite recent players, and his celebrations are legendary, so good luck Azza. Hope you smash it. Not sure their style of play makes much difference, the goals ive seen have been of his own making from outside the box. If that was in the quarters he would have either a) fell over b) ran into a defender and given away possession or c) skied it. This is why so many were getting annoyed with his performances because most of us knew he was so much better than he was showing. Bolton fans said they havent seen any diving from him, why not for them and always for us? I only wish him well now because it would mean more money for the gas. I guess that would claw back some of the depreciation in his value while here, due to him having his head up his arse for a year. Just shows how much a new contract with more money can wake perk you up. |
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Post by chewbacca on May 8, 2024 10:07:58 GMT
The one thing the Dunford's era did well was get pretty good transfer fees in. Getting a national record fee AND Brian Parkin for instance was superb work. If we were churning players like we were in the 90's now our balance sheet would look a lot healthier. We seemed to have a decent sale every year. From memory, our pipeline of decent fees dried up around the end of the Holloway period and became patchy since. Coincidentally our annual losses started no longer being covered and our form dipped. Maybe there is a connection between getting good, regular fees and our erratic form. Historically our best sells came from three routes; Youth (Stewart, Taylor, Yates, Browning), Non-League (Hayles, Martyn, Penrice, Ellington) and Higher up the food chain (Roberts, Cureton). That's usually because their ceiling is higher. Signing from clubs at your level usually means those players are at the level they should be unless you're doing a Posh or Bolton with JCH and Collins. Recruitment in recent times has been more conservative, it's usually from teams around us and lends itself to a lack of progression. If we can return to a pleasant mix of Youth, Non-League and Higher Up supplemented by those conservative "will work at this level" signings we could start turning real profits again. It would potentially save us money in the short term as well. |
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Post by Somersetgas on May 8, 2024 10:10:13 GMT
cant remember Leyton buying channing off us?thought he just left I think you're right. We bought Channing from QPR for a reported £250k. All other sources suggest he went to Orient on a free.
Point still remains that nearly all these players went on to have success at a higher level and the values are peanuts compared to transfer fees extracted by clubs at a similar level to Rovers.
Channing definitely left on a free. |
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Post by amgas on May 8, 2024 10:34:59 GMT
Was the sale of Nigel Martin before the Bosman rule ? - surely it is this coupled with poor fixed compensation for young players that means we don't get the transfer fees we used to in the Dunford era.
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Post by chewbacca on May 8, 2024 10:42:40 GMT
Was the sale of Nigel Martin before the Bosman rule ? - surely it is this coupled with poor fixed compensation for young players that means we don't get the transfer fees we used to in the Dunford era. The Bosman Rule came into effect in 1995 but didn't really start until 1996. So Stewart, Hayles, Roberts, Taylor, Ellington, Browning, Cureton and Beadle were all Dunford Era post-Bosman deals. The one that sticks in the mind is John Taylor's (incredibly underrated player for us 44 goals in 95 League games) move to Bradford in 1995 for £300k. He was nearing the end of his contract I think and pushed for a move. We beat them 4-0 the next season and he got pelters. |
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Post by pirate on May 8, 2024 11:05:32 GMT
From memory, our pipeline of decent fees dried up around the end of the Holloway period and became patchy since. Coincidentally our annual losses started no longer being covered and our form dipped. Maybe there is a connection between getting good, regular fees and our erratic form. Historically our best sells came from three routes; Youth (Stewart, Taylor, Yates, Browning), Non-League (Hayles, Martyn, Penrice, Ellington) and Higher up the food chain (Roberts, Cureton). That's usually because their ceiling is higher. Signing from clubs at your level usually means those players are at the level they should be unless you're doing a Posh or Bolton with JCH and Collins. Recruitment in recent times has been more conservative, it's usually from teams around us and lends itself to a lack of progression. If we can return to a pleasant mix of Youth, Non-League and Higher Up supplemented by those conservative "will work at this level" signings we could start turning real profits again. It would potentially save us money in the short term as well. Even Roberts was first identified by Everson/Penrice/Holloway when he was playing for Hayes in non-league. |
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Post by chewbacca on May 8, 2024 11:14:20 GMT
Historically our best sells came from three routes; Youth (Stewart, Taylor, Yates, Browning), Non-League (Hayles, Martyn, Penrice, Ellington) and Higher up the food chain (Roberts, Cureton). That's usually because their ceiling is higher. Signing from clubs at your level usually means those players are at the level they should be unless you're doing a Posh or Bolton with JCH and Collins. Recruitment in recent times has been more conservative, it's usually from teams around us and lends itself to a lack of progression. If we can return to a pleasant mix of Youth, Non-League and Higher Up supplemented by those conservative "will work at this level" signings we could start turning real profits again. It would potentially save us money in the short term as well. Even Roberts was first identified by Everson/Penrice/Holloway when he was playing for Hayes in non-league. Aside from Loans we're not taking in players in that 18-24 age range that can produce future fees. Three of our nine permanent signings last season fitted that profile, two were returning loanees who had been let go by clubs that aren't that far ahead of us. Really hoping Friend has the ability to make us more of a force in that department. Time will tell. |
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Post by gasify on May 8, 2024 11:33:29 GMT
Dont we always sale our best players for next to nothing ? Apart from snake who have we sold for a bargain? That is the point for me. We end up letting players leave on a free as we aren't very good at cashing in on them. For all Snakey boys negative antics, he could have left on a free that summer. |
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