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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 5, 2024 22:19:16 GMT
Hi Gasheads. Thanks for adding me, I've been a lurker for a while and this is my first post on this forum. I did last weeks Q&A but didn't get to discuss this topic
From what I can gather we potentially have an extra 3 access points to the stadium that aren't in use. I know we haven't seen the stadium designs yet but it strikes me as something we should try and push through, at least while we have the mayoral role in Bristol. If we are wanting to build a bigger fanbase then this issue needs to be thought out.
Strathmore road - I believe we own what is essentially a drive way to the fan zone. It could be another entrance for home fans coming from Gloucester road which will ease congestion at the main Filton avenue gates
Alton road - To me this would make a perfect away fan entrance, especially when the station on Ashley down road is finished. It would give away fans a quick escape down muller road
Ellicot road - If we don't sell anymore car park this would surely make sense for vehicle access. This way you avoid any congestion from Thrubshaw close as you could make thrubshaw entrance only and Ellicot exit only.
Let me know what you think :-)
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Mar 5, 2024 22:34:21 GMT
Excellent first post!
I agree with every point!
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 5, 2024 22:54:44 GMT
Excellent first post! I agree with every point! Thanks! I have to admit I'm guilty of getting proper nerdy, going down the pub with google maps printouts and a sharpie pen  . Stadium design seems out of our control but this seems like a no brainer that we can try and push through while we have mayoral powers (I ironically voted against them!). The residents shouldn't be too miffed as Alton road would only be away fans who aren't on coaches and Ellicott would only be a few coaches each match day. |
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 6, 2024 3:12:36 GMT
Hi Gasheads. Thanks for adding me, I've been a lurker for a while and this is my first post on this forum. I did last weeks Q&A but didn't get to discuss this topic From what I can gather we potentially have an extra 3 access points to the stadium that aren't in use. I know we haven't seen the stadium designs yet but it strikes me as something we should try and push through, at least while we have the mayoral role in Bristol. If we are wanting to build a bigger fanbase then this issue needs to be thought out. Strathmore road - I believe we own what is essentially a drive way to the fan zone. It could be another entrance for home fans coming from Gloucester road which will ease congestion at the main Filton avenue gates Alton road - To me this would make a perfect away fan entrance, especially when the station on Ashley down road is finished. It would give away fans a quick escape down muller road Ellicot road - If we don't sell anymore car park this would surely make sense for vehicle access. This way you avoid any congestion from Thrubshaw close as you could make thrubshaw entrance only and Ellicot exit only. Let me know what you think :-) Love it. Drop your CV off at the Mem. This is the kind of thinking that will get us to the Championship. East Stand….total rebuild or north & South clip ons? |
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 6, 2024 7:55:39 GMT
Wasn't that the b side to avenues and alleyways by Tony Christie?
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Post by discodave on Mar 6, 2024 8:11:15 GMT
Great post and great idea, however there is absolutely no way the residents of Ellicot and Alton road will allow this....
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Post by mftc on Mar 6, 2024 8:35:19 GMT
Wasn't there talk by Tom of the Strathmore site being used as a creche type thing?
Seem to remember at a SC meeting 20 odd years ago there were agreements in place that we would not use the other locations. I think the most vociferous anti football lot when we moved to the Mem were in Alton Rd and we had to pacify them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2024 8:47:17 GMT
With the introduction of Ashley down Station the planners my be in favour of opening up these exits to aid the footflow there to encourage use of public transport.
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 9:48:18 GMT
Hi Gasheads. Thanks for adding me, I've been a lurker for a while and this is my first post on this forum. I did last weeks Q&A but didn't get to discuss this topic From what I can gather we potentially have an extra 3 access points to the stadium that aren't in use. I know we haven't seen the stadium designs yet but it strikes me as something we should try and push through, at least while we have the mayoral role in Bristol. If we are wanting to build a bigger fanbase then this issue needs to be thought out. Strathmore road - I believe we own what is essentially a drive way to the fan zone. It could be another entrance for home fans coming from Gloucester road which will ease congestion at the main Filton avenue gates Alton road - To me this would make a perfect away fan entrance, especially when the station on Ashley down road is finished. It would give away fans a quick escape down muller road Ellicot road - If we don't sell anymore car park this would surely make sense for vehicle access. This way you avoid any congestion from Thrubshaw close as you could make thrubshaw entrance only and Ellicot exit only. Let me know what you think :-) Love it. Drop your CV off at the Mem. This is the kind of thinking that will get us to the Championship. East Stand….total rebuild or north & South clip ons? If done properly, total rebuild. I've been reading the east stand thread and ultimately it should be a new stand behind it in the car park and moving the pitch slightly. This of course won't happen but i'd settle for a revamp that is "unrecognisable" as Abdulatiff said. In the hope that we'd get a massive steep single tier west stand. Boxes/hotel rooms, facilites etc. should all be East stand. I'd rather clip ons in the hope of a complete rebuild one day than something that is not good enough but too good to tear down. |
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 9:50:17 GMT
With the introduction of Ashley down Station the planners my be in favour of opening up these exits to aid the footflow there to encourage use of public transport. This is how I see it. I know there's a residence issue but it could go through if sold as easing congestion elsewhere. Alcot only get away fans which is not many at times. Ellicott just have to deal with a few coaches going one way on match days |
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Post by Quarters on Mar 6, 2024 10:06:31 GMT
With the introduction of Ashley down Station the planners my be in favour of opening up these exits to aid the footflow there to encourage use of public transport. This is how I see it. I know there's a residence issue but it could go through if sold as easing congestion elsewhere. Alcot only get away fans which is not many at times. Ellicott just have to deal with a few coaches going one way on match days Doubt there is room for coaches down that road unless parking is banned on match day. |
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 10:51:16 GMT
This is how I see it. I know there's a residence issue but it could go through if sold as easing congestion elsewhere. Alcot only get away fans which is not many at times. Ellicott just have to deal with a few coaches going one way on match days Doubt there is room for coaches down that road unless parking is banned on match day. It does have the bend in it so fair point. I just see that side as wasted space, like it or not car parks are quite defunct in city football grounds now, unless purposefully built out of town. I understand some people need to drive but public transport and park&rides make more sense so it would be good to have a smoother coach drop off system. If we really can't use ellicott road then let's build a student accommodation block to get revenue in and turn thrubshaw into a coach only entrance/exit. Strathmore would take the extra footfall and hopefully Alton road can go to away fans. The thrubshaw residents no longer having fan access should out vote the Alton residents who don't want it. |
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Post by badengas on Mar 6, 2024 11:26:18 GMT
Damn you and your sensible thinking. It has no place on this forum.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 6, 2024 11:40:07 GMT
Welcome op..
Good points made.
I know within our first season or two at Mem pre blackthorn roof era, the Alton Road was entrance to away fans.
It soon closed because it became very difficult to manage/police/steward as everyone seen leaving were automatically targeted as an away fan for some our most (let's say) itk organised geezers within the parish.... If you know what I mean?
Perhaps things have moved on?
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Mar 6, 2024 11:51:52 GMT
I think foot traffic is well catered for on Filton Avenue as there seems to be an equal split of those coming up or down Gloucester road and a few heading down from the Welly and using the 3 current entrances.
Alton road still has an entrance of sorts but don't think the residents will be happy with that, especially after the south stand planning issues.
Trubshaw is a bottleneck for locals at full time but pretty sure all residents knew that when they moved in, Do you make that inbound traffic only?
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 12:04:35 GMT
Damn you and your sensible thinking. It has no place on this forum.  Tell them fat cats in head office things are gonna change round here!   |
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 12:13:54 GMT
I'd make Thrubshaw inbound only then exit only Ellicott. However it's been mentioned that coaches may be difficult getting down there and you make a good point about filton avenue serving all quarters (wink). Maybe Strathmore opening will make it easier for coming south gloucester road which means thrubshaw can be a proper coach entrance. I cant help but notice how stalled the coaches get with all the fans in the way. Main filton avenue gates and strathmore for home fans would be good as long as we can get Alton road for away fans.
In response to the above comment about away fans being targeted, I'd like to think it has moved on but an organised police prescence down to ashley down station could be put in place for some of our spicier fixtures.
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Post by amgas on Mar 6, 2024 12:19:36 GMT
The truth of the matter is once the station opens it is important to improve access from that end of the ground. You can't expect people to leave their cars behind and catch the train if walking routes are not opened up. I am afraid you will never please everyone, but I have visited many away grounds with access down similar residential streets.
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 13:07:13 GMT
The truth of the matter is once the station opens it is important to improve access from that end of the ground. You can't expect people to leave their cars behind and catch the train if walking routes are not opened up. I am afraid you will never please everyone, but I have visited many away grounds with access down similar residential streets. Exactly, i mean Luton is through peoples backgardens! |
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Post by eric on Mar 6, 2024 13:17:17 GMT
Great post and great idea, however there is absolutely no way the residents of Ellicot and Alton road will allow this.... Perhaps they need reminding that even though they may own a house on that road they do not actually own the road itself !! |
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. Stadium design seems out of our control but this seems like a no brainer that we can try and push through while we have mayoral powers (I ironically voted against them!). The residents shouldn't be too miffed as Alton road would only be away fans who aren't on coaches and Ellicott would only be a few coaches each match day.
