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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 6, 2024 14:51:35 GMT
We could be a bit deviant and word it "we've opened up access on this road but don't worry no Bristol Rovers fans will have access" ;-)
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 6, 2024 15:33:19 GMT
We could be a bit deviant and word it "we've opened up access on this road but don't worry no Bristol Rovers fans will have access" ;-) No dogs, Irish or gasheads maybe
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 6, 2024 17:10:08 GMT
We could be a bit deviant and word it "we've opened up access on this road but don't worry no Bristol Rovers fans will have access" ;-) No dogs, Irish or gasheads maybe That’s a bit ruff, I think small dogs would be acceptable.
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Post by Quarters on Mar 6, 2024 18:42:38 GMT
Planning dept of Bristol Council now run by the government, what impact will this make, who knows?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2024 19:38:18 GMT
Planning dept of Bristol Council now run by the government, what impact will this make, who knows? No idea if our plans would fall under the criteria listed? If it does we should out in our application asap as I assume the Greens would have no say in the planning decision? www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-failing-planning-department-taken-9145539 It's hard to believe Labour have let planning decisions be taken out of the councils hands, unless they are fed up with the Greens objecting to everything??
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2024 19:41:12 GMT
We could be a bit deviant and word it "we've opened up access on this road but don't worry no Bristol Rovers fans will have access" ;-) No dogs , Irish or gasheads maybe Why on earth did you think posting that was OK?
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 6, 2024 19:46:29 GMT
No dogs , Irish or gasheads maybe Why on earth did you think posting that was OK? Calm down mate It's only a play on the sign they used to have in Windows in bristol,no dogs,Irish or blacks, Thankfully no longer seen
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2024 20:10:14 GMT
Why on earth did you think posting that was OK? Calm down mate It's only a play on the sign they used to have in Windows in bristol,no dogs,Irish or blacks, Thankfully no longer seen We all know that but surely no reason to post it.
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 7, 2024 0:04:03 GMT
I see modern online sensibilities still stretch to the gas forums then ;-)
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Post by supergas on Mar 7, 2024 7:32:53 GMT
Planning dept of Bristol Council now run by the government, what impact will this make, who knows? No idea if our plans would fall under the criteria listed? If it does we should out in our application asap as I assume the Greens would have no say in the planning decision? www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-failing-planning-department-taken-9145539 It's hard to believe Labour have let planning decisions be taken out of the councils hands, unless they are fed up with the Greens objecting to everything?? Labour have had multiple chances to sort the problem, but instead of hiring more staff to provide what is a statutory council service, they (the Mayor and the council) have chosen to waste spend money on other (some would say vanity) projects. I don't think the new East Stand would come under this category because of the floor-space - it certainly wouldn't if there are the facilities we all hope there are as that would put the floorspace over 1,000sqm...but potentially under this we could apply to knock down houses we own and create new access points to the ground....
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 7, 2024 13:52:42 GMT
Labour have had multiple chances to sort the problem, but instead of hiring more staff to provide what is a statutory council service, they (the Mayor and the council) have chosen to waste spend money on other (some would say vanity) projects. I don't think the new East Stand would come under this category because of the floor-space - it certainly wouldn't if there are the facilities we all hope there are as that would put the floorspace over 1,000sqm...but potentially under this we could apply to knock down houses we own and create new access points to the ground.... Cool story. Clearly at the time chronic cuts meant a (very!) shortsighted decision to reduce planning staff. This led to a loss of experienced planners who weren’t replaced for a number of years and thus the backlog was created. Further to this, other local authorities were more proactive and nipped things in the bud by hiring experienced external planning staff to kill backlogs where BCC put their head in the sand and let it build and build to an insurmountable problem - roughly the middle of last year where the head of planning was changed and a load of staff hired. Since then, the backlog is almost gone (will be by middle of the year) and the hired staff, whilst mostly graduate, are getting up to speed. This latest decision seems at odds with what is happening on the ground and under a labour run administration in an election year smells of politics. Oh and read the article. The Mem will always be a major application so the Greens will deal with it when it goes to planning…
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Post by supergas on Mar 8, 2024 7:35:15 GMT
Labour have had multiple chances to sort the problem, but instead of hiring more staff to provide what is a statutory council service, they (the Mayor and the council) have chosen to waste spend money on other (some would say vanity) projects. I don't think the new East Stand would come under this category because of the floor-space - it certainly wouldn't if there are the facilities we all hope there are as that would put the floorspace over 1,000sqm...but potentially under this we could apply to knock down houses we own and create new access points to the ground.... Cool story. Clearly at the time chronic cuts meant a (very!) shortsighted decision to reduce planning staff. This led to a loss of experienced planners who weren’t replaced for a number of years and thus the backlog was created. Further to this, other local authorities were more proactive and nipped things in the bud by hiring experienced external planning staff to kill backlogs where BCC put their head in the sand and let it build and build to an insurmountable problem - roughly the middle of last year where the head of planning was changed and a load of staff hired. Since then, the backlog is almost gone (will be by middle of the year) and the hired staff, whilst mostly graduate, are getting up to speed. This latest decision seems at odds with what is happening on the ground and under a labour run administration in an election year smells of politics. Oh and read the article. The Mem will always be a major application so the Greens will deal with it when it goes to planning… Spending money on vanity projects vs staff to meet statutory obligations is also political - how many planning staff could have been retained (or hired) with the £38m wasted on Bristol Energy? Incidentally I never said the Mem would fall under this category, just that some of the houses we own around the ground would...
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Post by joefrankie on Mar 8, 2024 10:29:49 GMT
If Bristol Energy had been a success, would it still be described as a vanity project?
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Post by supergas on Mar 8, 2024 11:15:16 GMT
If Bristol Energy had been a success, would it still be described as a vanity project? If Bristol Energy had been a success they could have hired/retained more planning staff and so they wouldn't have been put into special measures... [edit] incidentally, whilst it was hemorrhaging cash it was spending money sponsorship - the balloon festival and I think Glos Cricket spring to mind, there were probably others. It's one thing to be a failing council-owned business, quite another to be spending money you're not generating on sponsoring things....
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Post by joefrankie on Mar 8, 2024 12:04:21 GMT
If Bristol Energy had been a success, would it still be described as a vanity project? If Bristol Energy had been a success they could have hired/retained more planning staff and so they wouldn't have been put into special measures... [edit] incidentally, whilst it was hemorrhaging cash it was spending money sponsorship - the balloon festival and I think Glos Cricket spring to mind, there were probably others. It's one thing to be a failing council-owned business, quite another to be spending money you're not generating on sponsoring things.... That hasn't answered my question.
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Post by amgas on Mar 8, 2024 14:14:28 GMT
In all honesty when the council got involved in Bristol Energy most of the energy companies were making good money - Bristol Energy were not the only ones to fail when the whole market changed.
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Post by supergas on Mar 9, 2024 6:47:08 GMT
If Bristol Energy had been a success they could have hired/retained more planning staff and so they wouldn't have been put into special measures... [edit] incidentally, whilst it was hemorrhaging cash it was spending money sponsorship - the balloon festival and I think Glos Cricket spring to mind, there were probably others. It's one thing to be a failing council-owned business, quite another to be spending money you're not generating on sponsoring things.... That hasn't answered my question. Happy to explain it in General Chat, but if you've read any of the coverage of the external auditors report you'll know that from the moment it was set up it had no chance of success because of bad decisions (some political, some business) taken by Councilors, the Mayor(s) and their civil servants. Where we find ourselves now is actually good for Rovers, the council will have to get planning decisions (even for major developments) back up to statutory levels, meaning a quick and efficient application and decision for the next parts of the ground to be upgraded.
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Post by joefrankie on Mar 9, 2024 13:55:27 GMT
That hasn't answered my question. Happy to explain it in General Chat, but if you've read any of the coverage of the external auditors report you'll know that from the moment it was set up it had no chance of success because of bad decisions (some political, some business) taken by Councilors, the Mayor(s) and their civil servants. Where we find ourselves now is actually good for Rovers, the council will have to get planning decisions (even for major developments) back up to statutory levels, meaning a quick and efficient application and decision for the next parts of the ground to be upgraded. Every cloud and all that…
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 9, 2024 17:19:42 GMT
In all honesty when the council got involved in Bristol Energy most of the energy companies were making good money - Bristol Energy were not the only ones to fail when the whole market changed. Net margins were next to nothing. Many suppliers at the time were trading as loss leaders to gain customer base. It was a diabolical time to join the market. Other councils did the same by white labelling with the big boys. Slightly better idea. It was always going to end in tears. If I lived in BCC area I’d have been fuming at how my council tax was being spent. Mental idea. We don’t like politicians no matter they’re persuasion and think they’re incompetent so why
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2024 18:00:19 GMT
If Bristol Energy had been a success, would it still be described as a vanity project? Was it ever likely to be a success though, I can't recall many councils getting involved with supplying energy, there's certainly no Birmingham Energy or Manchester Energy co's? Similarly how much was wasted on the Bristol Underground study and the Bristol Metro also seems a complete waste of money.
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