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Post by trevorgas on Mar 23, 2024 10:45:34 GMT
I'm afraid that's not correct ,if a case has been heard in a tribunal it is listed and a matter of public knowledge. Correct. Apparently the truth is out there, but we are all too stupid or lazy to find it, the only person who has the research super power is O2O2. Ah Tilly ,all settled in secret behind closed doors,schuss!!!🙄🙄 |
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 23, 2024 12:06:43 GMT
Sounds like there might be a block in place. Get it? Like toilet block? Haha, very funny... Seriously though send Tom Gorringe to a prison block! Please be careful. You have made repeated comments that Tom Gorringe deserves to be in prison and you hope he ends up there. Firstly it is entirely disrespectful on a human level. Also it amounts imho to a clear case of defamation via published material on social media, which in current landscape (see Vine versus Joey Barton, based on Katie Hopkins case law precedent) is a slippery slope. The Mods should have intervened ages ago on your specific comments. It's like the Wild West, as you and others have lost any sense of decorum when talking about a Club employee. He does not deserve that slur, whatever you think about his abilities or record. One other thing. TG has always made himself available, so please contact him to explain your anger. Are you saying I should be sent to prison?! |
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Post by gasify on Mar 23, 2024 12:09:12 GMT
Please be careful. You have made repeated comments that Tom Gorringe deserves to be in prison and you hope he ends up there. Firstly it is entirely disrespectful on a human level. Also it amounts imho to a clear case of defamation via published material on social media, which in current landscape (see Vine versus Joey Barton, based on Katie Hopkins case law precedent) is a slippery slope. The Mods should have intervened ages ago on your specific comments. It's like the Wild West, as you and others have lost any sense of decorum when talking about a Club employee. He does not deserve that slur, whatever you think about his abilities or record. One other thing. TG has always made himself available, so please contact him to explain your anger. Are you saying I should be sent to prison?! Back to Mimban for you. |
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Post by lympstonegas on Mar 23, 2024 15:10:31 GMT
0202bo2ba. Top of the charts on this forum for posts that are worth reading and I would presume the poster is an intelligent and interesting human being. Just to add I'm not an employee or share holder of 02 😊✌️ It was a tote end chant - oh to, oh to be, oh to be a, Gashead |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 23, 2024 15:55:40 GMT
Yesterday is dead and gone, the previous manager left behind a trail of rat poison when he got fired. Too many people fell under his spell and became mesmerised by his influence over things Rovers. The Kuwaities need a fresh start with those involved in senior positions before they bought into the club cleared out from top to bottom. Why? What if the Kuwaities feel TG's doing a reasonable job, not everybody has an odd grudge against Wael and anybody associated with him. Perhaps if they look back though the records they'll see what a disaster SH & MS were before TG was appointed and that makes them think better the devil you know than the clowns you don't know. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 23, 2024 16:12:36 GMT
I'm afraid that's not correct ,if a case has been heard in a tribunal it is listed and a matter of public knowledge. Correct. Apparently the truth is out there, but we are all too stupid or lazy to find it, the only person who has the research super power is O2O2. Only if you know your ACAS from your elbow.. Which some posts here I do question if they do. Ps....much love, bluetooth 🥰 |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 23, 2024 16:18:59 GMT
Yesterday is dead and gone, the previous manager left behind a trail of rat poison when he got fired. Too many people fell under his spell and became mesmerised by his influence over things Rovers. The Kuwaities need a fresh start with those involved in senior positions before they bought into the club cleared out from top to bottom. Why? What if the Kuwaities feel TG's doing a reasonable job, not everybody has an odd grudge against Wael and anybody associated with him. Perhaps if they look back though the records they'll see what a disaster SH & MS were before TG was appointed and that makes them think better the devil you know than the clowns you don't know. Firstly - is he any better than Starnes or Hamer? Secondly - even if he is then just because we've had three numpties in a row doesn't mean we shouldn't seek out somebody who is actually competent. I think a few people like being able to email him or send him a tweet and get information from him that others don't through the general channels. My issue with that is that the information should be made generally available like in a normal football club or more importantly that the issues that people are needing to message him about shouldn't exist at all in the first place! (e.g. repeated ticketing disasters, new stand which was promised to be done in the off season (which was never really feasible) not being finished until half way through the season, etc etc) |
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Post by gassince1957 on Mar 23, 2024 16:34:38 GMT
Am I missing something here - 9 pages about an allegation that TG has left the club when in fact, he hasn't. Must be a slow news week!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 23, 2024 16:45:55 GMT
Correct. Apparently the truth is out there, but we are all too stupid or lazy to find it, the only person who has the research super power is O2O2. Only if you know your ACAS from your elbow.. Which some posts here I do question if they do. Ps....much love, bluetooth 🥰 I am aware of ACAS, and the fact that details of cases they may have been involved in are not in the public domain, whereas Employment Tribunals take place in a public court. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 23, 2024 16:56:28 GMT
Correct. Apparently the truth is out there, but we are all too stupid or lazy to find it, the only person who has the research super power is O2O2. Only if you know your ACAS from your elbow.. Which some posts here I do question if they do. Ps....much love, bluetooth 🥰 ACAS and litigation are two totally separate courses of action, do you even know what you're talking about? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 24, 2024 9:08:20 GMT
I know exactly what I'm on about and exactly some of the bods involved..... unfortunately.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 24, 2024 9:12:38 GMT
I know exactly what I'm on about and exactly some of the bods involved..... unfortunately. So what was it ACAS or litigation? |
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Post by supergas on Mar 24, 2024 9:13:25 GMT
I know exactly what I'm on about and exactly some of the bods involved..... unfortunately. OK. Fair enough. But you can't link us to any evidence to back up your claims. You also can't tell us where to look/search for the evidence to back up your claims. However you insist your claims are verifiable....so how can we verify them? Companies will bury payouts deep in their accounts where no one will find them. Both sides will often want all details kept out of the public record (and different sides will have different reasons for that). So I'm still at a loss as to how we substantiate your claims... |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 24, 2024 9:19:08 GMT
I know exactly what I'm on about and exactly some of the bods involved..... unfortunately. OK. Fair enough. But you can't link us to any evidence to back up your claims. You also can't tell us where to look/search for the evidence to back up your claims. However you insist your claims are verifiable....so how can we verify them? Companies will bury payouts deep in their accounts where no one will find them. Both sides will often want all details kept out of the public record (and different sides will have different reasons for that). So I'm still at a loss as to how we substantiate your claims... Thanks for your reply. Exactly that, the settlements can be covered up and lost so probably the best for all parties. I would start with a timeline of employed staff from then until now, but that's just me. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 24, 2024 9:29:09 GMT
Only if you know your ACAS from your elbow.. Which some posts here I do question if they do. Ps....much love, bluetooth 🥰 I am aware of ACAS, and the fact that details of cases they may have been involved in are not in the public domain, whereas Employment Tribunals take place in a public court. Yes, TT. Good post. One procedure can follow the other. Obviously acas has been more well known in much bigger cases of conciliation such as Strike actions etc. It was a tongue in cheek remark that on stage may have gotten a titter.. |
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Post by supergas on Mar 24, 2024 9:31:54 GMT
OK. Fair enough. But you can't link us to any evidence to back up your claims. You also can't tell us where to look/search for the evidence to back up your claims. However you insist your claims are verifiable....so how can we verify them? Companies will bury payouts deep in their accounts where no one will find them. Both sides will often want all details kept out of the public record (and different sides will have different reasons for that). So I'm still at a loss as to how we substantiate your claims... Thanks for your reply. Exactly that, the settlements can be covered up and lost so probably the best for all parties. I would start with a timeline of employed staff from then until now, but that's just me. Staff come and go from all business for a variety of reasons. You'll have to do better than that. There *might* be a comprehensive list of playing and coaching staff, but I can't think of any normal business that regularly announces or has lists of 'administrative' staff... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 24, 2024 10:00:22 GMT
I am aware of ACAS, and the fact that details of cases they may have been involved in are not in the public domain, whereas Employment Tribunals take place in a public court. Yes, TT. Good post. One procedure can follow the other. Obviously acas has been more well known in much bigger cases of conciliation such as Strike actions etc. It was a tongue in cheek remark that on stage may have gotten a titter.. You clearly haven't a clue about Employment Law if you think ACAS only become involved in "bigger" cases, as before any case is taken to an Employment Tribunal the employee always goes via ACAS as it's a free reconciliation service, most cases are settled this way. www.acas.org.uk/early-conciliation |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 24, 2024 10:38:55 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. Nailed it. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 24, 2024 10:41:11 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. But we’ve been told they went to litigation which led to Rovers having to pay out thousands of £’s - that doesn’t sound like out of court settlement and non-disclosure agreements? So, you have never known of settlements before any case has got to any proceedings ? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 24, 2024 10:48:36 GMT
I'm afraid that's not correct ,if a case has been heard in a tribunal it is listed and a matter of public knowledge. Correct. Apparently the truth is out there, but we are all too stupid or lazy to find it, the only person who has the research super power is O2O2. Not all information is to be found on the www. Speaking to people is still possible. I mean no disrespect when I say this. |
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