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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2024 20:37:54 GMT
Seriously? Does it matter specifically whom? If you know anyone in and around the club post his appointment that had been established, you would know who. Even the most little of research would delve into that and anyone can do that for themselves.... you'll get there eventually. Sorry but 'research' doesn't help those of us with little to no direct involvement. Sounds more like 'who you know, not what you know.' Without something tangible all this is, is hearsay and innuendo. Help us understand, but you'll need to be more open. Yep totally get the point. And well made. As you'll totally understand my position too and we are in an impasse... I'm not here to do the whole bastion of work and deliver it to the table warm and ready to go....there are stories out there, I've pointed everyone in the right direction to research. I know what I know. But placing it in a fish and chips paper for you isn't what am about without express permission of everyone concerned. I'm sure you would agree. Apologies for the frustrations, but it doesn't take away the facts....no matter how much they are publicly disclosed, or not. So....dig a bit deeper and the truth will be revealed. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2024 20:44:52 GMT
And that's the reason why you don't know. So when we are told to do our research there is nothing we can actually research - only ITKers will know? A quick internet search shows Bristol Sport versus one of their employees is officially documented and publicly available. I couldn’t see anything for Bristol Rovers, perhaps those smarter than me can find something? In the meantime I’ll take with a pinch of salt these allegations that TG has caused Rovers into a litigation that has cost the clubs thousands. If a quick internet search is the extent of your research, that's a fair enough post. But I'm not here to fan the flames of a lazy researcher. There are peoples lives concerned. Decent hard working and loyal staff that have been affected. It's not up to me to assist you out your lazy bed, e.... you're far better than that. And so am I. It's a shame TG can't acknowledge some of his mistakes have led to these type of threads and unfortunately the club to spend needless £ to litigants but hey we are where we are and it's not the club I recognise. It might be for you, have a blast. |
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Post by eric on Mar 22, 2024 20:51:34 GMT
So when we are told to do our research there is nothing we can actually research - only ITKers will know? A quick internet search shows Bristol Sport versus one of their employees is officially documented and publicly available. I couldn’t see anything for Bristol Rovers, perhaps those smarter than me can find something? In the meantime I’ll take with a pinch of salt these allegations that TG has caused Rovers into a litigation that has cost the clubs thousands. If a quick internet search is the extent of your research, that's a fair enough post. But I'm not here to fan the flames of a lazy researcher. There are peoples lives concerned. Decent hard working and loyal staff that have been affected. It's not up to me to assist you out your lazy bed, e.... you're far better than that. And so am I. It's a shame TG can't acknowledge some of his mistakes have led to these type of threads and unfortunately the club to spend needless £ to litigants but hey we are where we are and it's not the club I recognise. It might be for you, have a blast. Nobody else seems able to find anything either to support the allegation that BRFC have been dragged through litigation and have had to pay thousands of pounds as a result of TG’s actions despite tribunal hearings apparently being on public record. One can only presume there is no publicly evidence to support these claims, therefore no amount of research will help, or that it is just made up. |
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Post by bluetooth0077 on Mar 22, 2024 20:57:13 GMT
0202bo2ba. Top of the charts on this forum for posts that are worth reading and I would presume the poster is an intelligent and interesting human being. Just to add I'm not an employee or share holder of 02 😊✌️
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2024 21:04:11 GMT
So when we are told to do our research there is nothing we can actually research - only ITKers will know? A quick internet search shows Bristol Sport versus one of their employees is officially documented and publicly available. I couldn’t see anything for Bristol Rovers, perhaps those smarter than me can find something? In the meantime I’ll take with a pinch of salt these allegations that TG has caused Rovers into a litigation that has cost the clubs thousands. If a quick internet search is the extent of your research, that's a fair enough post. But I'm not here to fan the flames of a lazy researcher. There are peoples lives concerned. Decent hard working and loyal staff that have been affected. It's not up to me to assist you out your lazy bed, e.... you're far better than that. And so am I. It's a shame TG can't acknowledge some of his mistakes have led to these type of threads and unfortunately the club to spend needless £ to litigants but hey we are where we are and it's not the club I recognise. It might be for you, have a blast. Why not just admit there's nothing in the public domain, not one poster has ever found anything and they are usually good at unearthing Rovers related news. If it's not in the public domain there's zero proof the club/TG has done anything wrong, however many times you post they have. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 22, 2024 21:06:10 GMT
If a quick internet search is the extent of your research, that's a fair enough post. But I'm not here to fan the flames of a lazy researcher. There are peoples lives concerned. Decent hard working and loyal staff that have been affected. It's not up to me to assist you out your lazy bed, e.... you're far better than that. And so am I. It's a shame TG can't acknowledge some of his mistakes have led to these type of threads and unfortunately the club to spend needless £ to litigants but hey we are where we are and it's not the club I recognise. It might be for you, have a blast. Nobody else seems able to find anything either to support the allegation that BRFC have been dragged through litigation and have had to pay thousands of pounds as a result of TG’s actions despite tribunal hearings apparently being on public record. One can only presume there is no publicly evidence to support these claims, therefore no amount of research will help, or that it is just made up. Exactly my thoughts Eric and Topper, like you I am sick and tired of the itk’s claims on here and all they ever say is to do your own research. What makes me laugh about all of this, is that there seem to be several cases of litigation by several former employees and the local/ national media have, it would appear, never published anything about the matters. |
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Post by horfield on Mar 22, 2024 21:26:27 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media.
Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case.
Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard.
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Post by percy on Mar 22, 2024 21:33:49 GMT
If you search properly you will find the evidence the earth is flat.
Not my fault you are all lazy researchers.
I know what I know. I can’t be any clearer.
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Post by eric on Mar 22, 2024 21:46:42 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. But we’ve been told they went to litigation which led to Rovers having to pay out thousands of £’s - that doesn’t sound like out of court settlement and non-disclosure agreements? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2024 22:18:10 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. But we’ve been told they went to litigation which led to Rovers having to pay out thousands of £’s - that doesn’t sound like out of court settlement and non-disclosure agreements? It could just be £5,000/£10,000 to get rid of the claim, as running a case to a hearing would cost similar in solicitors costs. If there's nothing in the public domain nobody will ever know what was paid out or even if there's any truth in the allegations. So basically a non story. |
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Post by gasify on Mar 22, 2024 22:32:54 GMT
If you search properly you will find the evidence the earth is flat. Not my fault you are all lazy researchers. I know what I know. I can’t be any clearer. The issue I have is the lies coming out of the club. Only this week, they told us about the Finland national squad training at the quarters. Lies, lies and more lies. If you do your research, you'll find that Finland doesn't exist. |
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Post by gasify on Mar 22, 2024 22:53:45 GMT
Sounds like there might be a block in place. Get it? Like toilet block? Haha, very funny... Seriously though send Tom Gorringe to a prison block! Please be careful. You have made repeated comments that Tom Gorringe deserves to be in prison and you hope he ends up there. Firstly it is entirely disrespectful on a human level. Also it amounts imho to a clear case of defamation via published material on social media, which in current landscape (see Vine versus Joey Barton, based on Katie Hopkins case law precedent) is a slippery slope. The Mods should have intervened ages ago on your specific comments. It's like the Wild West, as you and others have lost any sense of decorum when talking about a Club employee. He does not deserve that slur, whatever you think about his abilities or record. One other thing. TG has always made himself available, so please contact him to explain your anger. I think TG should be behind bars for 'crimes' against Bristol Rovers fans. This is so different from calling someone a nonce. You just can't compare the two. One is accusing someone of being a sex offender and the other is a figure of speech. I have posted that I would like to see TG behind bars. Not because he has done anything illegal but because I struggle to warm to him, saying he should be behind bars is the figurative meaning, rather than the literal meaning. When you have read that TG should go to jail have you questioned that and then asked the poster "What for?" or did you read it as a figure of speech? He went from head of marketing at Brighton to CEO her in about 4 years. He is either amazing and I am completely missing it. OR I'm not sure, there has been many posts here about his behaviour. Nothing solid. Rumours of employment litigation (a long time before O2 mentioned on this thread). Maybe he is just really good at his job or good at playing politics. I so hope it's the first option for Rovers sake. |
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Post by bambergashead on Mar 23, 2024 0:15:47 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. Glad someone else has finally mentioned it. Was beginning to think I was the only one. Surely the whole point of a settlement agreement is to keep it out of the public domain by signing NDA's? |
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 23, 2024 5:54:36 GMT
Tom gone ?
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Post by horfield on Mar 23, 2024 8:20:40 GMT
Yesterday is dead and gone, the previous manager left behind a trail of rat poison when he got fired. Too many people fell under his spell and became mesmerised by his influence over things Rovers. The Kuwaities need a fresh start with those involved in senior positions before they bought into the club cleared out from top to bottom.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 23, 2024 8:52:56 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. Glad someone else has finally mentioned it. Was beginning to think I was the only one. Surely the whole point of a settlement agreement is to keep it out of the public domain by signing NDA's? Why do people always assume the worst about the Rovers Board ? " The whole point " is not as stated in the previous comment. My company faced a completely made up claim by an employee who resigned and it meant that 3 employees had to travel over 100 miles and take a day away from work and the legal team cost us £5k . Her total claim of £3.5k was thrown out as it was exposed that she had bragged about what she was doing to a friend but we were the losers as her costs were met out of the public purse and we worked out that with all the preparation work and time away it had cost us £8k in total. That is also why settlements are reached out of court and NDA's are signed - its a lot cheaper than getting true justice. |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 23, 2024 9:22:51 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. I'm afraid that's not correct ,if a case has been heard in a tribunal it is listed and a matter of public knowledge. |
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Post by mftc on Mar 23, 2024 9:55:33 GMT
The ST fiasco was a known to be a potential issue beforehand. Some on here said Tom told them individually there could have been issues before matches.
A big problem was the fact that any potential issue was not immediately disclosed on the website or other social media to let other fans know.
It was a lottery to know if you could get in or not.
It seems too often TG communicates to individuals when the wider fan base should be told something.
Hopefully he and others at the club learns from this type of mistake.
It's not right that I get more information from posters than the club. Hopefully the new media man can improve things ready for next season.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 23, 2024 10:23:32 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. I'm afraid that's not correct ,if a case has been heard in a tribunal it is listed and a matter of public knowledge. Correct. Apparently the truth is out there, but we are all too stupid or lazy to find it, the only person who has the research super power is O2O2. |
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Post by eric on Mar 23, 2024 10:32:22 GMT
It must be in the interest of both parties to settle outside of an employment tribunal,sign non disclosures and move on with their lives. Do people really believe such a delicate subject is going to be flagged up in the press or social media. Employment disputes only break cover when the cases become bitter and are contested by one side or other in the public domain which one side believes by doing so it can use to win its case. Because there is no record of a case doesn't mean it hasn't been heard. Glad someone else has finally mentioned it. Was beginning to think I was the only one. Surely the whole point of a settlement agreement is to keep it out of the public domain by signing NDA's? I don’t think anyone would disagree that settlement agreements (which include NDA clauses as standard) are used to settle disputes before court but in this case we were told litigation had happened (taking an unresolved dispute to a court) and as a result Rovers lost thousands of £’s. |
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