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Post by pirate on Apr 11, 2024 20:50:26 GMT
He did say that he had 8 witnesses to what happened with the Keepyups, maybe that's what you were thinking of. With regards to JB influencing players, I'd be surprised if any of them would jepordise their chances of getting another contract (here or elsewhere), because some bloke who will never get another job iin football has asked them to stop trying. Absolutely under normal circumstances, completely agree. However, you could link the players to their agent to Jennings to Barton. Its a bit incestuous. Barton's mate Chris Spendlove recently promoted to Head of Recruitment 😆
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 11, 2024 20:52:08 GMT
He did say that he had 8 witnesses to what happened with the Keepyups, maybe that's what you were thinking of. With regards to JB influencing players, I'd be surprised if any of them would jepordise their chances of getting another contract (here or elsewhere), because some bloke who will never get another job iin football has asked them to stop trying. Absolutely under normal circumstances, completely agree. However, you could link the players to their agent to Jennings to Barton. Its a bit incestuous. What's JB or the players going to gain from Rovers losing games and MT getting the sack, it's not like JB's ever going to return as manager or will ever manage his former players in the future, he maybe in touch with them and they are telling him it's now cr@p at Rovers, but that can happen in all walks of life.
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Post by aghast on Apr 11, 2024 20:54:20 GMT
I wonder whether the last few weeks of the season, with nothing at stake, evokes a similar mindset to when the exams are over at school, and you just go through the motions until the end of term (whether consciously or unconsciously). I think that's why we shouldn't panic and enter a meltdown just yet. We are safe, none of the squad are as committed as they would be if we were at the top or bottom, and I think a lot of people are going bananas about it at the moment. We have terrible current form but the season as a whole isn't a disaster. And MT contributed to our safety until it went t!ts up recently.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 11, 2024 21:17:04 GMT
Absolutely under normal circumstances, completely agree. However, you could link the players to their agent to Jennings to Barton. Its a bit incestuous. What's JB or the players going to gain from Rovers losing games and MT getting the sack, it's not like JB's ever going to return as manager or will ever manage his former players in the future, he maybe in touch with them and they are telling him it's now cr@p at Rovers, but that can happen in all walks of life. As we've seen, Barton is a cult leader who gets faithful followers no matter the mental gymnastics or consequences. Plenty on here still defend him no matter what he says or does even though he's gone and isn't coming back. It's bizarre, but there it is.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 11, 2024 21:20:55 GMT
I wonder whether the last few weeks of the season, with nothing at stake, evokes a similar mindset to when the exams are over at school, and you just go through the motions until the end of term (whether consciously or unconsciously). I think that's why we shouldn't panic and enter a meltdown just yet. We are safe, none of the squad are as committed as they would be if we were at the top or bottom, and I think a lot of people are going bananas about it at the moment. We have terrible current form but the season as a whole isn't a disaster. And MT contributed to our safety until it went t!ts up recently. The lack of goals is surely a concern, how long can the run last? I wonder what potential signings consider before joining a club, I'm not sure I'd be rushing join a club this summer with such a record.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 11, 2024 21:30:43 GMT
I think that's why we shouldn't panic and enter a meltdown just yet. We are safe, none of the squad are as committed as they would be if we were at the top or bottom, and I think a lot of people are going bananas about it at the moment. We have terrible current form but the season as a whole isn't a disaster. And MT contributed to our safety until it went t!ts up recently. The lack of goals is surely a concern, how long can the run last? I wonder what potential signings consider before joining a club, I'm not sure I'd be rushing join a club this summer with such a record. A half decent striker might back himself to score once next season making him our top scorer?
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Post by eric on Apr 11, 2024 21:46:03 GMT
What's JB or the players going to gain from Rovers losing games and MT getting the sack, it's not like JB's ever going to return as manager or will ever manage his former players in the future, he maybe in touch with them and they are telling him it's now cr@p at Rovers, but that can happen in all walks of life. As we've seen, Barton is a cult leader who gets faithful followers no matter the mental gymnastics or consequences. Plenty on here still defend him no matter what he says or does even though he's gone and isn't coming back. It's bizarre, but there it is. I’ve not seen “plenty on here” defending his recent social media stuff tbh but perhaps I’ve not been looking hard enough. The most bizarre thing being posted at the moment is that JB is somehow influencing the current players to deliberately under perform and get MT sacked whilst possibly jeopardising their own career prospects as a consequence - that’s David Icke levels of bizarre !!
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 11, 2024 21:59:03 GMT
As we've seen, Barton is a cult leader who gets faithful followers no matter the mental gymnastics or consequences. Plenty on here still defend him no matter what he says or does even though he's gone and isn't coming back. It's bizarre, but there it is. I’ve not seen “plenty on here” defending his recent social media stuff tbh but perhaps I’ve not been looking hard enough. The most bizarre thing being posted at the moment is that JB is somehow influencing the current players to deliberately under perform and get MT sacked whilst possibly jeopardising their own career prospects as a consequence - that’s David Icke levels of bizarre !! Nothing to do with JB . It's to do with us being 23rd in current form. MT could turn the polls around from 60 - 30 % if he focus on things and motivates the team. The rest is a smokescreen !.
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Post by gasify on Apr 12, 2024 4:23:48 GMT
Absolutely under normal circumstances, completely agree. However, you could link the players to their agent to Jennings to Barton. Its a bit incestuous. What's JB or the players going to gain from Rovers losing games and MT getting the sack, it's not like JB's ever going to return as manager or will ever manage his former players in the future, he maybe in touch with them and they are telling him it's now cr@p at Rovers, but that can happen in all walks of life. Under 'normal' circumstances, completely agree. However, one could make the argument that JB is a spiteful narcissist. He is passed off and wants to do everything that he can to undermine the new owners. Of course, this theory gives JB credit for having some sort of power over the people still at the club, so could be dismissed very quickly as being nonsense. Luckily though, JB doesn't have any form for being a spiteful narcissist.
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Post by gasify on Apr 12, 2024 4:29:24 GMT
GASGOV. Poll.. Based on 200 votes . 30% in favour of keeping him. 60% think he should go 10% undecided. Currently 30% of Gashead think he should stay. The Poll could change in the last 4 games and will be updated on % format after 300 votes. Margin of error 3-5%. We finished on 53 pts last season, on 51 pts this season. If we beat 53 pts, does that make MT more successful than JB in league one?
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Post by bidefordgas on Apr 12, 2024 6:53:09 GMT
GASGOV. Poll.. Based on 200 votes . 30% in favour of keeping him. 60% think he should go 10% undecided. Currently 30% of Gashead think he should stay. The Poll could change in the last 4 games and will be updated on % format after 300 votes. Margin of error 3-5%. We finished on 53 pts last season, on 51 pts this season. If we beat 53 pts, does that make MT more successful than JB in league one? Quite obviously no, because JB was a full season and Taylor not.
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Post by oldie on Apr 12, 2024 7:01:32 GMT
We finished on 53 pts last season, on 51 pts this season. If we beat 53 pts, does that make MT more successful than JB in league one? Quite obviously no, because JB was a full season and Taylor not. Ummm.. so if the current manager ends the season having accumulated more points with less games in charge he is not more successful?
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Post by kruger on Apr 12, 2024 7:01:54 GMT
SACK!!! I have absolutely no confidence in him what so ever, reminds me to much of Garner
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 12, 2024 8:05:17 GMT
SACK!!! I have absolutely no confidence in him what so ever, reminds me to much of Garner Poor BG, his career has fallen off a cliff over the past two years. He suffered because van shufflehof had a disastrous home game when it was pouring down against JB and Fleetwood. WAQ lost his nerve, put two and two together, sacked BG appointed Tis before losing his nerve again and appointing JB. UTG!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 12, 2024 8:25:56 GMT
What's JB or the players going to gain from Rovers losing games and MT getting the sack, it's not like JB's ever going to return as manager or will ever manage his former players in the future, he maybe in touch with them and they are telling him it's now cr@p at Rovers, but that can happen in all walks of life. As we've seen, Barton is a cult leader who gets faithful followers no matter the mental gymnastics or consequences. Plenty on here still defend him no matter what he says or does even though he's gone and isn't coming back. It's bizarre, but there it is. I think that the players are probably the least likely people at the club to be enthralled by JB now. They will have seen all sides of his persona behind the scenes - from one end of the spectrum to the other. He can be hard work to have around, nothing magical there.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 12, 2024 8:37:55 GMT
Unless I am wrong haven't we established JB record was 4 4 5 (16 points from 13) and MT is 8 3 13 ( 27 points from 24).
This means at present MT ratio is slightly worst than the ratio under JB (this season) and worst than our ratio (last season) .
I'm willing to be corrected !.
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Post by gasify on Apr 12, 2024 8:45:19 GMT
We finished on 53 pts last season, on 51 pts this season. If we beat 53 pts, does that make MT more successful than JB in league one? Quite obviously no, because JB was a full season and Taylor not. So, next season. 54 points means he's a better manager than JB? Just want to get the rules of engagement worked out beforehand.
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Post by bidefordgas on Apr 12, 2024 9:30:26 GMT
Quite obviously no, because JB was a full season and Taylor not. So, next season. 54 points means he's a better manager than JB? Just want to get the rules of engagement worked out beforehand. Yes in my book, because the seasons record is over 46 league games.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Apr 12, 2024 9:40:53 GMT
SACK!!! I have absolutely no confidence in him what so ever, reminds me to much of Garner Definitely reminds me of Garner 🙈💙utg
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Post by bluegas on Apr 12, 2024 9:48:03 GMT
SACK!!! I have absolutely no confidence in him what so ever, reminds me to much of Garner Definitely reminds me of Garner 🙈💙utg You mean, like, very earnest, and full of modern day psycho-babble jargon?
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