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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Apr 10, 2024 17:15:02 GMT
For me the big question is who would they get in now/ close season. The owners dithered for 2 months before bringing in Taylor. My worry is we are going around
in circles because the right criteria for the manager is being overlooked. Then it's an endless game of sack and pay off.
In normal situations I'd say give MT the summer as he's only just got in , but it's probably best he shuts the door on the way out....
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Post by bobbyjones on Apr 10, 2024 17:29:00 GMT
He has to go he hasnot got a clue how to manage a team.
Good ridance I say there are better managers out there.
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Post by gasbaggio on Apr 10, 2024 17:29:22 GMT
I get why people are saying sack him the last 7 games results are awful but prior to that we were doing ok. Also if we’d sacked Barton when we went in to free fall would we have come back up the following season? Same with DC and we didn’t sack him either we won back to back promotions. I’m in the don’t know group to be honest because when I look at our squad it’s slow, unbalanced and average at best. I think if I was the owner I’d want to see his list of players he’s trying to recruit for next season , who he wants to keep and where he wants to take the club and how. Only then could I decide. Obviously we don’t know any of that so it’s too black and white to say keep or sack. Barton and DC are history. Taylor is now. He has underperformed and I would not trust him with a transfer budget this summer. He’s on a downward spiral. If the clueless owners had not appointed him, he would be gone already. It seems he has lost the dressing room and many fans. |
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Post by utg23 on Apr 10, 2024 17:49:13 GMT
Definitely in the back club. Not had a chance to buy own players.
Currently stuck with JB players that have downed tools already. I think he can be next best manager if given money and time
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Post by richie on Apr 10, 2024 17:50:58 GMT
Wait til the end of the season, Cheltenham will go down and we’ll nick DC, knowing us we’ll get GC back (still a better option)
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 10, 2024 18:15:03 GMT
Wait til the end of the season, Cheltenham will go down and we’ll nick DC, knowing us we’ll get GC back (still a better option) Why wait, get someone in now to get the crowds back, even if it’s just for the last four games. Holloway maybe? I’d take Byron and Jak until the end of the season, far more enthusiasm than glum. Taylor has got to go before he ruins next season. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 10, 2024 18:29:21 GMT
Wait til the end of the season, Cheltenham will go down and we’ll nick DC, knowing us we’ll get GC back (still a better option) Why wait, get someone in now to get the crowds back, even if it’s just for the last four games. Holloway maybe? I’d take Byron and Jak until the end of the season, far more enthusiasm than glum. Taylor has got to go before he ruins next season. but the flip side is how long we take to replace Taylor with and with whom. Sacking him will probably just mean next season is write off anyway . Are you/other fans prepared to give hypothetical new manager a whole season with the possible excuse of having had a chaotic pre-season? |
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 10, 2024 18:37:25 GMT
Why wait, get someone in now to get the crowds back, even if it’s just for the last four games. Holloway maybe? I’d take Byron and Jak until the end of the season, far more enthusiasm than glum. Taylor has got to go before he ruins next season. but the flip side is how long we take to replace Taylor with and with whom. Sacking him will probably just mean next season is write off anyway . Are you/other fans prepared to give hypothetical new manager a whole season with the possible excuse of having had a chaotic pre-season? I’d rather someone who showed enthusiasm ala DC , GC than this fool, we’ve a longer break before the new season than usual, tbf Taylor was obviously the last choice. I’d take mid table over Taylor relegating us, the guys a depressing joke. His pressers is almost like he wants to be sacked like JB. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 10, 2024 18:45:14 GMT
Why wait, get someone in now to get the crowds back, even if it’s just for the last four games. Holloway maybe? I’d take Byron and Jak until the end of the season, far more enthusiasm than glum. Taylor has got to go before he ruins next season. but the flip side is how long we take to replace Taylor with and with whom. Sacking him will probably just mean next season is write off anyway . Are you/other fans prepared to give hypothetical new manager a whole season with the possible excuse of having had a chaotic pre-season? On the flip side of that is MT could well relegate us next season if we continue with similar form next season. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 10, 2024 18:49:26 GMT
but the flip side is how long we take to replace Taylor with and with whom. Sacking him will probably just mean next season is write off anyway . Are you/other fans prepared to give hypothetical new manager a whole season with the possible excuse of having had a chaotic pre-season? On the flip side of that is MT could well relegate us next season if we continue with similar form next season. obviously anything could happen. Not saying anyone is wrong to think he should be sacked, but the next guy whenever they come in, his excuse is already made. I just wonder how long that would wash with fans |
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 10, 2024 18:49:46 GMT
There's nothing to suggest giving him a summer rebuild will change anything. The tactics are woeful, football is dire and all he does is blame the players for his own shortcomings. The players appear to have downed tools and even the fans can't be bothered anymore. It's only going one way atm. Let's not forget the board gave him £500k in the January window . He failed to sign a striker with the cash and most of the players he signed as been dropped. People forget that the bottom 10 clubs would dream of having this sort of money and resources to sign 3 4 5 players in a window. What would cheltenham do with up to £500k in a window ?. He signed Conteh who looks a good bet. The loans were suck it and see. Also Friend is the transfer maestro so not just on Taylor. So let’s wait and see |
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 10, 2024 18:56:32 GMT
Let's not forget the board gave him £500k in the January window . He failed to sign a striker with the cash and most of the players he signed as been dropped. People forget that the bottom 10 clubs would dream of having this sort of money and resources to sign 3 4 5 players in a window. What would cheltenham do with up to £500k in a window ?. He signed Conteh who looks a good bet. The loans were suck it and see. Also Friend is the transfer maestro so not just on Taylor. So let’s wait and see The loans have barely played, or have done nothing, Conteh yes looks good, but then has he got lucky with that signing, guy shouldn’t be trusted in a sweet shop. |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Apr 10, 2024 19:54:25 GMT
Spent most of the last week defending Taylor and saying he needed time and probably still think that is the case despite those horrendous games. The players have checked out and there aren’t enough options to mix it up at the moment.
However I can’t get the parallels out of my head with Garner. Not in relation to football but the way he took over halfway through a season, contrast in style to the previous manager, went on a beast of a bad run (winless V goalless) and on both occasions we were/are entrusting the manager to rebuild in the summer - on a supposedly smaller budget with younger players.
We know how the first time turned out. We have an opportunity to use that experience this time round and there are still people in senior management at the club who can forewarn of it.
If they think Taylor is the man they need to back him. Publicly. Maybe not before the season ends but have the balls to stick to your plan and (as always lacking) communicate with us. Alternatively, based on the above have the balls to admit you made a mistake and act decisively and make the change.
Who’d be an owner?!
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Post by oviedista on Apr 10, 2024 20:06:41 GMT
It's always odd to me that people get angry with managers on a personal level as if they're failing on purpose. Taylor is clearly doing his best and and decent human being.
On another point the club is obviously not harmonious across all staff and lacks a consistent culture or vision - so we constantly rely on managers to bring a culture of positivity and success. The club seems to want managers to do everything (as DC did) when they should be briging good coaching and management to an already well oiled machine. Until then good managers will keep failing at Rovers if they can't or dont want to take the reins completely (which imo isn't a healthy role or long term recipe for success).
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Post by bluetooth0077 on Apr 10, 2024 20:27:09 GMT
Respect to all the opions we have a aging group but by in large still have good mental capacity obviously coming from a older perspective so not a real gage of the fanbase but interesting and thought provoking to a certain degree. Apologies for any gramical errors or spelling mistakes. My old man said he a city fan
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 10, 2024 20:37:27 GMT
Go get your torch, the tribe have spoken
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Post by socrates on Apr 10, 2024 22:11:40 GMT
I get why people are saying sack him the last 7 games results are awful but prior to that we were doing ok. Also if we’d sacked Barton when we went in to free fall would we have come back up the following season? Same with DC and we didn’t sack him either we won back to back promotions. I’m in the don’t know group to be honest because when I look at our squad it’s slow, unbalanced and average at best. I think if I was the owner I’d want to see his list of players he’s trying to recruit for next season , who he wants to keep and where he wants to take the club and how. Only then could I decide. Obviously we don’t know any of that so it’s too black and white to say keep or sack. Barton and DC are history. Taylor is now. He has underperformed and I would not trust him with a transfer budget this summer. He’s on a downward spiral. If the clueless owners had not appointed him, he would be gone already. It seems he has lost the dressing room and many fans. The same could be said when we went down without a wimper under DC and Barton though. I’m not saying we should definitely sack him now but if I was the owner I’d definitely want to see a list of possible recruits and a plan i liked or he’d be out of the door. |
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Post by aghast on Apr 10, 2024 23:06:43 GMT
It seems Bristol Rovers is a managerial graveyard where your career ends. Tisdale , Garner , Barton …..Taylor ? Who’d want the poisoned chalice ? 😂 Ian Holloway. We may as well just accept the inevitable and give him one last go. He can't be any worse than the last four. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 11, 2024 5:51:05 GMT
The biggest issue I see with him being sacked is the fact we could be paying the wages of three managers for at least the whole of next season. How sustainable is that?
The other issue is every time we do sack a manager fans list a load of names who most likely have zero interest in managing us. Too many think we are some big attractive league one club but the reality is we are not.
The club couldn’t find anyone for weeks before Taylor was sacked by Rotherham.
We would be better off trying to poach a lower league manager who is doing well, but that won’t happen if there are no brains within the football club.
I still think it’s a massive gamble whatever we do.
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Post by gasify on Apr 11, 2024 6:22:00 GMT
I’d give him a ‘window’. Clearly this bunch of under performers don’t want him as their boss but thankfully many will be gone in just a few games - so imo give him a chance. If this had been the situation after 10 games with his team at the start of the season, I’d be thinking differently. He’s been given ‘the tail of a tigers’ to hold and he’s been let down badly imo. . The Forest lad was in a premiership squad a few weeks before. Vaughan played a reasonable ammount of championship football. Clubs in division one would love a January budget of 500k cash and 3 higher leauge players. And quest what ?. He over looked a striker and opted for a cramped midfield. It's not as if he was given free transfers and national leauge players. I don't believe that. Where has that 'fact' come from? The loan players he got in. We ain't paying much for. Aguilera looked fantastic in his first game and then got injured unfortunately. One goal in 7 games seems about the value that most clubs got out of the Jan window with the exception of Lincoln who signed a loan player from Luton who has turned their season around. |
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