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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2024 20:23:40 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
Got any suggestions? DC, perhaps he could pass his CV to the new owners after his side beat us tomorrow? |
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Post by returngas on Apr 12, 2024 20:30:35 GMT
It's hard to say without knowing what's going on behind the scenes. I do worry that Barton might still be pulling the strings of a few of the players based on Twitter comments. The big mistake was not bring in a loan striker or two in January. I don't know what his relationship with the players is like but he did say things will come out at the end of the season. A loss by the odd goal would not be the end but a hammering at the hands of Cheltenham will give him a high pressured and miserable summer. Who would be a football manager.
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Post by returngas on Apr 12, 2024 20:32:34 GMT
DC, perhaps he could pass his CV to the new owners after his side beat us tomorrow? DC a great man manager but not the best eye for a player when it comes to recruitment so needs a good recruitment structure. I have a feeling he will be back one day. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Apr 12, 2024 21:01:24 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
Got any suggestions? Currently , Michael Duff springs to mind , good job with Barnsley
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Post by Quarters on Apr 12, 2024 21:07:31 GMT
Currently , Michael Duff springs to mind , good job with Barnsley
And Swansea? |
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Post by gasify on Apr 12, 2024 21:30:18 GMT
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Post by socrates on Apr 12, 2024 22:48:22 GMT
That was a god awful league 2 side you’re right but I see this squad as an aging unbalanced league 1 side with zero pace and a lack of leadership and goalscorers. They’re different but both had many weaknesses. There are leaders in Evans, Hunt, Wilson, Finley, Sinclair and Martin, goal scorers in Sinclair, Evans, Martin and LT, pace in LT and Vaughan (assuming he's still at the club?). Whilst the squad might not be play off contenders they are good enough to compete with the likes of Reading, if they were managed by somebody who can motivate them. I’m not so sure those players you’ve named are leaders. Just because a player is experienced it doesn’t make him a leader. As for Thomas being a goalscorer the 5 he had this season is the most he’s ever scored in a season , Evans doesn’t score many and our top goalscorer even admitted himself the other day that he’s never been prolific until that run between September and January. You say Thomas and Vaughn are quick but are they ? I wouldn’t say Thomas is particularly quick although he’s skilful and Vaughn hasn’t had the ball longer than 2 seconds in any game before he’s muscled off of the ball anyway. Crap squad, injury prone and lacking in leadership, pace , determination and goal scorers. |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Apr 12, 2024 23:42:58 GMT
There are leaders in Evans, Hunt, Wilson, Finley, Sinclair and Martin, goal scorers in Sinclair, Evans, Martin and LT, pace in LT and Vaughan (assuming he's still at the club?). Whilst the squad might not be play off contenders they are good enough to compete with the likes of Reading, if they were managed by somebody who can motivate them. I’m not so sure those players you’ve named are leaders. Just because a player is experienced it doesn’t make him a leader. As for Thomas being a goalscorer the 5 he had this season is the most he’s ever scored in a season , Evans doesn’t score many and our top goalscorer even admitted himself the other day that he’s never been prolific until that run between September and January. You say Thomas and Vaughn are quick but are they ? I wouldn’t say Thomas is particularly quick although he’s skilful and Vaughn hasn’t had the ball longer than 2 seconds in any game before he’s muscled off of the ball anyway. Crap squad, injury prone and lacking in leadership, pace , determination and goal scorers. Thomas is definitely quick but there is no leadership on or off the pitch atm and that’s my concern going into the summer with the current setup. |
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Post by Captain Jayho on Apr 13, 2024 1:22:19 GMT
MT strongly hinting (in fact pretty much openly stating) that some untoward things have been going on behind the scenes. Says these will come to light at the end of the season. That's from the last part of his Cheltenham pre-game interview. Clearly wants to say something but not allowed to yet. What a shitshow this is now.
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Post by 1950gas on Apr 13, 2024 2:09:52 GMT
IMO barton has a lot of influence with several Gas players. Not a healthy situation but on the other hand I'm coming to the opinion that we need to part ways with Taylor (I supported his appointment). It's obvious we are going to lose several players end of season including some we would all like to keep. Evans for one will not put up with the sh** standard we are dishing out. You could see his frustration and why he got booked in Reading game as many players not putting in for example McCormack, Brown etc. (what a waste of time, money and effort we put in chasing McCormack). Brown went back for Reading first goal but of course was like a dwarf (sorry people lacking in height) marking a giant.
Stoney UTG
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 13, 2024 5:47:11 GMT
MT strongly hinting (in fact pretty much openly stating) that some untoward things have been going on behind the scenes. Says these will come to light at the end of the season. That's from the last part of his Cheltenham pre-game interview. Clearly wants to say something but not allowed to yet. What a shitshow this is now. Part of me hopes this is the case. The alternative is that he is useless, and that next season will be a continuation of the last couple of months. The thought is unbearable. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 13, 2024 6:42:16 GMT
MT strongly hinting (in fact pretty much openly stating) that some untoward things have been going on behind the scenes. Says these will come to light at the end of the season. That's from the last part of his Cheltenham pre-game interview. Clearly wants to say something but not allowed to yet. What a shitshow this is now. Dave Penny era all over again or are the new co-owners causing the issues themselves? As a guess MT wants everything done more professionally, the players just want to stick to the JB way i.e. training in Liverpool regularly? |
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Post by lympstonegas on Apr 13, 2024 7:48:13 GMT
DC is under more pressure than MT as he will be hoping for a better result than Fleetwood Port Vale and Burton.
Are we up for the battle?
Probably be an awful watch but do believe we will have a reaction to Tuesday’s farce to pull out a much needed win
2-1 Gas
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Post by bathtubpirate on Apr 13, 2024 7:52:06 GMT
MT strongly hinting (in fact pretty much openly stating) that some untoward things have been going on behind the scenes. Says these will come to light at the end of the season. That's from the last part of his Cheltenham pre-game interview. Clearly wants to say something but not allowed to yet. What a shitshow this is now. If players aligned to Barton have not been pulling their weight then Taylor deserves a chance to rebuild. The recent results may not be on him. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Apr 13, 2024 8:07:53 GMT
A wise owner will have monitored, assessed the strengths, weaknesses, capability and capacity of their manager during the past 4/5 months, the embarrassing name calling and anti Joey rhetoric on here is insignificant. For those who do not realise it, as time goes on Joey has no real influence over the day to day running and particularly the results of BRFC. So the question after todays match, although personally I would wait until after the Wigan match, is whether or not the current manager has the ability, connections, management style, et al to get Rovers into the Championship in the next three years. Currently from someone, like many on here, who has watched near every minute of his tenure, I would say it is very doubtful, but hope to be proved wrong.
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Post by bluegas on Apr 13, 2024 8:31:08 GMT
DC, perhaps he could pass his CV to the new owners after his side beat us tomorrow? DC a great man manager but not the best eye for a player when it comes to recruitment so needs a good recruitment structure. I have a feeling he will be back one day. Possibly when we're back in the National League. |
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Post by singupgas on Apr 13, 2024 8:48:08 GMT
I don't think so.
I want more from MT, more passion, more positivity, more accountability.
BUT, I also think these players need to be better and have some pride in the way they play. Even if the tactics are not right, I want to see 100% effort.
Are the tactics really 0 goals out of 7 games bad, I am not sure, not at league 1. The players if they have anything about them should be able to create chances.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 13, 2024 9:58:37 GMT
I don't think so. I want more from MT, more passion, more positivity, more accountability. BUT, I also think these players need to be better and have some pride in the way they play. Even if the tactics are not right, I want to see 100% effort. Are the tactics really 0 goals out of 7 games bad, I am not sure, not at league 1. The players if they have anything about them should be able to create chances. Just look at Plymouth, the same players who've now pulled them away from the drop zone, would have taken them down under the previous manager. |
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Post by Quarters on Apr 13, 2024 10:27:58 GMT
Leicester 10 points from last 10 games, relegation form. Expect if that was here some would get rid of now.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Apr 13, 2024 10:29:55 GMT
I've not got any hopes left for this season but have been wondering whether tomorrow is it, with a weak performance and a 2/3 goal loss? That reaction at full time felt like the end for me.. I'm pretty sure MT will be allowed the close season to bring in "his" players. If next season starts as badly as this season is ending, he will be in real trouble. Don't forget he was a hero of the fans around Christmas time when we were beating Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton etc - so is he suddenly an inept manager, are the issues due to the injury list, or is there a lack of confidence which followed those two home games v Fleetwood and Burton which is where the wheels fell off our season? I happened to listen to to the EFL show on talksport the other afternoon and they had a feature on Rotherham. They interviewed the RUFC poscast host and he talked a fair bit about MT. MT signed a loan of injury-prone journeymen last summer and most of them have been crocked this season. The guy being interviewed said the blame for their relegation this season was poor recruitment last summer and dreadful football/results - RUFC are on course for the worst ever point haul in a championship season. I think MT will get preseason but it’s a huge rebuild needed and nothing gives me any faith in MT to lead that. |
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