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Post by bishgas on Apr 12, 2024 16:44:31 GMT
I've not got any hopes left for this season but have been wondering whether tomorrow is it, with a weak performance and a 2/3 goal loss?
That reaction at full time felt like the end for me..
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Post by gassince1957 on Apr 12, 2024 17:13:38 GMT
I've not got any hopes left for this season but have been wondering whether tomorrow is it, with a weak performance and a 2/3 goal loss? That reaction at full time felt like the end for me.. I'm pretty sure MT will be allowed the close season to bring in "his" players. If next season starts as badly as this season is ending, he will be in real trouble. Don't forget he was a hero of the fans around Christmas time when we were beating Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton etc - so is he suddenly an inept manager, are the issues due to the injury list, or is there a lack of confidence which followed those two home games v Fleetwood and Burton which is where the wheels fell off our season? |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2024 17:59:15 GMT
I've not got any hopes left for this season but have been wondering whether tomorrow is it, with a weak performance and a 2/3 goal loss? That reaction at full time felt like the end for me.. It would be very hard for Taylor to come back from a heavyish defeat on sat . |
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Post by gas2 on Apr 12, 2024 17:59:27 GMT
He's useless
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2024 18:04:37 GMT
I've not got any hopes left for this season but have been wondering whether tomorrow is it, with a weak performance and a 2/3 goal loss? That reaction at full time felt like the end for me.. It would be very hard for Taylor to come back from a heavyish defeat on sat . MT survived a 2-0 home defeat on Tuesday plus a record run of failing to score in games? Would losing 3-0 tomorrow really make things worse for him? It could be he now makes it until the end of the season and then is dismissed when (it seems?) all his coaching staff contracts also expire? |
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Post by clockendgas on Apr 12, 2024 18:09:29 GMT
Personally I'd look more closely at the players if we lose tomorrow.
Even if these players dislike Taylor,they should still have some personal pride,and surely a desire not to lose a game.
Someone like Geoff twentyman wasn't the most skillful player,but he could show these fannies pride in the shirt and playing for the club,even if he didn't like the manager.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2024 18:16:28 GMT
It would be very hard for Taylor to come back from a heavyish defeat on sat . MT survived a 2-0 home defeat on Tuesday plus a record run of failing to score in games? Would losing 3-0 tomorrow really make things worse for him? It could be he now makes it until the end of the season and then is dismissed when (it seems?) all his coaching staff contracts also expire? Yes . |
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Post by socrates on Apr 12, 2024 18:44:12 GMT
If Taylor was the right man for the job in December then from a board point perspective I’d imagine he’s still going to be here at the end of the Summer.
He’s had one jan window where very little gets done in the market.
If the board sack him this season then he’s not been given a chance to build anything so therefore what was the point in employing him ?
They might as well have let Mangan have it until the end of the season.
I get the form is dreadful but I’ll be amazed if he isn’t given the summer to build his squad whether it turns out for the best or not.
In fact if they sack him before at least 10 games in to the new season then I’ll be more convinced then ever that they’ve really got absolutely no clue how to run a football club.
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Apr 12, 2024 18:55:25 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
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Post by clockendgas on Apr 12, 2024 19:17:44 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
Sorry, but no manager with any pedigree is going to be banging on the door here,unless we are paying millions to be here. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2024 19:29:33 GMT
If Taylor was the right man for the job in December then from a board point perspective I’d imagine he’s still going to be here at the end of the Summer. He’s had one jan window where very little gets done in the market. If the board sack him this season then he’s not been given a chance to build anything so therefore what was the point in employing him ? They might as well have let Mangan have it until the end of the season. I get the form is dreadful but I’ll be amazed if he isn’t given the summer to build his squad whether it turns out for the best or not. In fact if they sack him before at least 10 games in to the new season then I’ll be more convinced then ever that they’ve really got absolutely no clue how to run a football club. Plymouth's board, who give the impression they know how to run a football club, sacked their manager after a similar number of games in charge. I assume the likes of GF, even TG, must know if MT is up to the job or totally out of his depth. I assume like us they must have wondered what MT was doing starting with Brown and McCormick as our strikers on Tuesday night? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 12, 2024 19:32:00 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
Decent players like half the shower of sh**e we have now, brought in by someone who people think has contacts? If we ship the sicknotes and bad attitudes out and get 5 or 6 players with Contehs attitude and resale value then I'd consider that a success. The myth that we have a decent squad of professionals should be well and truly dispelled for everyone by now surely? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2024 19:40:02 GMT
If Taylor was the right man for the job in December then from a board point perspective I’d imagine he’s still going to be here at the end of the Summer. He’s had one jan window where very little gets done in the market. If the board sack him this season then he’s not been given a chance to build anything so therefore what was the point in employing him ? They might as well have let Mangan have it until the end of the season. I get the form is dreadful but I’ll be amazed if he isn’t given the summer to build his squad whether it turns out for the best or not. In fact if they sack him before at least 10 games in to the new season then I’ll be more convinced then ever that they’ve really got absolutely no clue how to run a football club. Plymouth's board, who give the impression they know how to run a football club, sacked their manager after a similar number of games in charge. I assume the likes of GF, even TG, must know if MT is up to the job or totally out of his depth. I assume like us they must have wondered what MT was doing starting with Brown and McCormick as our strikers on Tuesday night? Plymouth now beating Leicester 1-0, last month their form was as just as bad as ours, it just shows you what a new manager can achieve without a transfer window. |
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Post by mrgasman on Apr 12, 2024 19:46:03 GMT
I’m going for a draw tomorrow - I just think DC will get something… hope I’m wrong of course.
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Post by socrates on Apr 12, 2024 19:53:36 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
Decent players like half the shower of sh**e we have now, brought in by someone who people think has contacts? If we ship the sicknotes and bad attitudes out and get 5 or 6 players with Contehs attitude and resale value then I'd consider that a success. The myth that we have a decent squad of professionals should be well and truly dispelled for everyone by now surely? Totally agree with this and this also sums up why I’m not convinced we’ve really seen what Taylor can do for us yet good or bad. Just like we hadn’t seen what DC could do for us when we were relegated. I simply can’t make up my mind if we should sack him or let him rebuild but that’s because I’m a supporter and as supporters were pretty much on the outside looking in. If I was the club owner and having meetings with him every week I’m sure I’d have a more educated opinion, we all would. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2024 19:59:33 GMT
DC inherited a god awful squad then lost players to injuries, whereas this squad, when it wants to, can beat the best teams in the league, MT is coming across more of a BG than a DC.
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Post by socrates on Apr 12, 2024 19:59:48 GMT
If Taylor was the right man for the job in December then from a board point perspective I’d imagine he’s still going to be here at the end of the Summer. He’s had one jan window where very little gets done in the market. If the board sack him this season then he’s not been given a chance to build anything so therefore what was the point in employing him ? They might as well have let Mangan have it until the end of the season. I get the form is dreadful but I’ll be amazed if he isn’t given the summer to build his squad whether it turns out for the best or not. In fact if they sack him before at least 10 games in to the new season then I’ll be more convinced then ever that they’ve really got absolutely no clue how to run a football club. Plymouth's board, who give the impression they know how to run a football club, sacked their manager after a similar number of games in charge. I assume the likes of GF, even TG, must know if MT is up to the job or totally out of his depth. I assume like us they must have wondered what MT was doing starting with Brown and McCormick as our strikers on Tuesday night? It’s hard to say if a manager is out of his depth if someone else’s signings have downed tools though isn’t it. If after building a side with what I’d imagine is probably going to be around a mid table budget we’re still losing most weeks then I’ll be convinced that Taylor is the wrong man for the job. But until then I’m not convinced. Thing is I’ve learned over time. I wanted DC out after relegation , I was so wrong. |
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Post by socrates on Apr 12, 2024 20:01:52 GMT
DC inherited a god awful squad then lost players to injuries, whereas this squad, when it wants to, can beat the best teams in the league, MT is coming across more of a BG than a DC. That was a god awful league 2 side you’re right but I see this squad as an aging unbalanced league 1 side with zero pace and a lack of leadership and goalscorers. They’re different but both had many weaknesses. |
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Post by gasify on Apr 12, 2024 20:05:18 GMT
I think the owners will stick with him and give him a budget to re assemble , and as is clear it will have to be pretty hefty.
It seems to me what happens between now and the end of the season will not make the slightest difference.
Personaly I would move him on , appoint someone with real pedigree , that can bring in decent players , and swallow pride.
New canvass , if you like.
Got any suggestions? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 12, 2024 20:22:16 GMT
DC inherited a god awful squad then lost players to injuries, whereas this squad, when it wants to, can beat the best teams in the league, MT is coming across more of a BG than a DC. That was a god awful league 2 side you’re right but I see this squad as an aging unbalanced league 1 side with zero pace and a lack of leadership and goalscorers. They’re different but both had many weaknesses. There are leaders in Evans, Hunt, Wilson, Finley, Sinclair and Martin, goal scorers in Sinclair, Evans, Martin and LT, pace in LT and Vaughan (assuming he's still at the club?). Whilst the squad might not be play off contenders they are good enough to compete with the likes of Reading, if they were managed by somebody who can motivate them. |
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