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Post by eric on Apr 18, 2024 11:58:51 GMT
Agree this is something that is getting worse. One way around it is to restart the game regardless of if the teams are "ready" - seen a few times recently where refs have held the game for everyone to trot back from the touch line. Blow the whistle start the game and if you are all stood by the touchline tough luck ..... Would encourage the team given a free kick etc to be ready to go as soon as that whistle is blown. Slightly different circumstances but do you remember when Sol Campbell had a goal disallowed at WC 98 for England v Argentina? The England players were all celebrating and the ref let the Argies take the free-kick and break towards our goal with loads of our players off the pitch and out of position. Just what refs should do now when players just wander off for a team talk or drink!! |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Apr 18, 2024 12:24:17 GMT
Hard to judge sometimes. Cheltenham keeper went down and we thought was acting. Later revealed he broke a bone in his foot giving pen away. Regardless there's no need for a team talk just because the goalie is injured, this form of dark arts seems more prevalent at our level now than in the Premiership/European Cups. But 99% of the time the goalkeeper isn't injured - the team talk is whats been planned and the goalkeeper injury is the only conduit to allow it to happen (as they cannot play on...). Anyway I think its a rule maker issue and they need to remove the incentives: 1. Allow physios on whilst game is in play. If you are really injured you get treatment, if you aren't injured you'll be up quick enough. If its bad play will be stopped. Works in rugby. Can't see how this can be exploited. 2. With the keepers you can't have a keeper be removed from a pitch if injured so have a temporary replacement for treatment. That'll nip the 70 minute injury team talk in the bud if your untested 19 year old has to go in goal for a few minutes whilst you are under the cosh! It makes sense so it'll never happen. |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 18, 2024 12:28:29 GMT
It's very difficult to control, with players feigning injury and they just go down holding their heads with seemingly no contact. The problem is what if a Lockyer situation happened in the 85th minute following a defensive corner when the away side are one up. There could be a very serious medical emergency. There have been a few cases where players just collapse, or go down on their knees (Connor Taylor etc). If a ref played on thinking it was the dark arts, can you imagine how they would feel if something serious happened when every second of medical assistance is vital? Plus they would get absolutely slaughtered by fans, pundits etc. Those events are so rare and I’ve yet to see one where both sets of players don’t notice and alert medics, ref etc - there is always an urgent panic. Something needs to be done to stop players seeking to get players carded, break up play or win free kicks by feigning injury - like I said earlier where it is obvious someone has received no physical contact and goes down holding their face a retrospective 3 match ban. Players need to be reminded of the seriousness of genuine head injuries and why new protocols have been introduced in recent years - it is to protect them. I think it’s absolutely sick that they seek to abuse those very same protocols that are there for their professions benefit and this wider shrugging of shoulders and acceptance of “dark arts”. Yes, agree. It’s surely not impossible to think of a way to deal immediately with ‘Tom Lockyer-type situations’ whilst ensuring cheating or trying to get a profession advantage is dealt with. But just as the FA have given way to the PL clubs over FA Cup replays so they are terrified of not dealing with a situation and finding out that it was serious. So I don’t hold out much hope from them. The goalkeepers-going down situation is the worst. There must be a way of discouraging that, giving a corner or even as wider said, Keepers have to go off like any other on-field player. UTG! |
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Post by bluegas on Apr 18, 2024 18:45:12 GMT
We’re always quick to criticise referees but I’d like to call out last nights referee - best I’ve seen at the Mem this season. Let some challenges go that looked borderline but he was consistent with both teams and read a lot of the play acting, mostly by Cambridge. Best example was when a Cambridge player went down (no foul) and then held his head to get the game stopped when clearly his head was not impacted. Even he though suffered two things that won’t go away it seems: 1) as soon as there is an injury around 20 mins everyone goes to the touchline for a mass coaching brief. 2) worse, as per their keeper last night we saw again a bad case of no reason injury to break up our momentum knowing that keepers do to go off after treatment. Anyway well done Mr Middleton I’d be happy to see you again. Are you going to contact the referees organisation and tell them this? Not being facetious - I've often wondered about doing it. On the rare occasions we get a good one. |
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