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Post by madridgas on Apr 28, 2024 15:46:48 GMT
That is what I think MT is being asked to do. How do you think he can do that ?
I believe our current (players) annual wage bill is £7m+ and if MT has to save 25%, that is £1.75m+.
If we believe the rumours that Finley was on £4k per week, Marquis on £5k and Martin on £6k, that is only £0.75 million saved.
Pure guesses - Collins, Gordon, Hoole, Sinclair, J Grant, Rossiter, Gibbons, Jones & Greenslade total £25k a week, or £1.25m in a year. Plus probably some savings on back room staff
So, if all of the out of contract players leave, he would have £250k (or £5k per week) to offer as wages to additions. I'm sure my numbers aren't exact, but it certainly shows the scale of the challenge he has, unless he can ship some relatively high earners, under-performers out.
Answers on a postcard as to how he works that miracle
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 28, 2024 16:04:32 GMT
That is what I think MT is being asked to do. How do you think he can do that ? I believe our current (players) annual wage bill is £7m+ and if MT has to save 25%, that is £1.75m+. If we believe the rumours that Finley was on £4k per week, Marquis on £5k and Martin on £6k, that is only £0.75 million saved. Pure guesses - Collins, Gordon, Hoole, Sinclair, J Grant, Rossiter, Gibbons, Jones & Greenslade total £25k a week, or £1.25m in a year. Plus probably some savings on back room staff So, if all of the out of contract players leave, he would have £250k (or £5k per week) to offer as wages to additions. I'm sure my numbers aren't exact, but it certainly shows the scale of the challenge he has, unless he can ship some relatively high earners, under-performers out. Answers on a postcard as to how he works that miracle A smaller squad that is actually capable of 40 odd games a season would be a start. Half the first team in the treatment room is money wasted and we have to get extra cover and loan players in to cover them, effectively meaning we are paying 2 wages per starting position.
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Post by alanrg on Apr 28, 2024 16:09:28 GMT
The only thing correct about this article it is all rumours
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Post by singupgas on Apr 28, 2024 16:10:34 GMT
Good luck to MT.
If he can assemble a group of players that are capable of winning around 20 games for almost 2 Million less in wages, then he would have done good job.
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Post by badengas on Apr 28, 2024 16:30:30 GMT
Advert :
Young, hungry, semi professional footballers wanted for a chance of League One football, a sensible wage, and the chance to prove yourself. A few days of open auditions and MT picks the best.
Surely this is as likely to succeed as listening to agents, or picking up players already on the merry go round.
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Post by pirate on Apr 28, 2024 16:35:32 GMT
Good luck to MT. If he can assemble a group of players that are capable of winning around 20 games for almost 2 Million less in wages, then he would have done good job. Miracle job.
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Post by returnofthedust on Apr 28, 2024 16:41:03 GMT
That is what I think MT is being asked to do. How do you think he can do that ? I believe our current (players) annual wage bill is £7m+ and if MT has to save 25%, that is £1.75m+. If we believe the rumours that Finley was on £4k per week, Marquis on £5k and Martin on £6k, that is only £0.75 million saved. Pure guesses - Collins, Gordon, Hoole, Sinclair, J Grant, Rossiter, Gibbons, Jones & Greenslade total £25k a week, or £1.25m in a year. Plus probably some savings on back room staff So, if all of the out of contract players leave, he would have £250k (or £5k per week) to offer as wages to additions. I'm sure my numbers aren't exact, but it certainly shows the scale of the challenge he has, unless he can ship some relatively high earners, under-performers out. Answers on a postcard as to how he works that miracle There is no way the playing squad is on a 7 million quid budget.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 28, 2024 16:42:36 GMT
Where does the £7m+ figure come from for starters?
As far as Martin I've not seen any suggestions his contract won't be renewed and, if it wasn't, we're most likely going to have to pay whatever he's earning in order to get in another similar goalscorer.
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Post by pirate on Apr 28, 2024 16:43:12 GMT
I heard the playing budget was £4.5m
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Post by yattongas on Apr 28, 2024 16:55:02 GMT
I heard the playing budget was £4.5m Likewise .
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Post by madridgas on Apr 28, 2024 17:09:28 GMT
Where does the £7m+ figure come from for starters? As far as Martin I've not seen any suggestions his contract won't be renewed and, if it wasn't, we're most likely going to have to pay whatever he's earning in order to get in another similar goalscorer. Last year, according to our audited accounts our "cost of sales" was £11m. We replaced Harry Anderson, Nick Anderton, Alex Rodman, Paul Coutts & Callum McDonald with Nick Hunt, George Friend, Chris Martin, James Wilson, Connor Taylor, Jevani Brown & Luke Thomas. My guess is that these new players cost £500k more, rising our "cost of sales" to £11.5m. I'm GUESSING that players / coaching staff wages are 2/3 of these costs. I'd be delighted if as pirate has suggested our wage bill was only £4.5m, then MT only needs to save £1.1m Totally agree that if we don't renew Martin we'd likely need to pay a lot of money to get a similar goal scorer. That's probably the biggest challenge for MT
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Post by madridgas on Apr 28, 2024 17:14:41 GMT
Thread title changed. Thanks to those that have engaged in the conversation. Saving £1m and improving the squad still a challenge i'd suggest
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Post by Gassy on Apr 28, 2024 17:57:58 GMT
If players like Marquis & Finley are costing £500k a season and he has to cut it by £1m, it's probably one of the easiest budget cuts you'll get in League 1.
We can get so much more for our money, it's almost laughable.
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Post by melrosegas on Apr 29, 2024 9:45:50 GMT
If players like Marquis & Finley are costing £500k a season and he has to cut it by £1m, it's probably one of the easiest budget cuts you'll get in League 1. We can get so much more for our money, it's almost laughable. 100%. As others have mentioned, due to how injury-prone half the current squad is we have 3-4 players for some positions, in theory if we reduce this to 2 players per position it will leave us with a fitter and more rounded squad - and reduce our wage bill. Youth team and loans providing additional cover. It is achievable, but is a huge risk with such turnover. I imagine most of us would be happy to stabilise mid-table and give us something to build on.
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 29, 2024 9:54:56 GMT
One way of reducing outgoings could be ripping up [redacted]'s contract for bringing the company into disrepute. Will save two years worth of payments.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 29, 2024 13:34:16 GMT
The treatment room contains over that amount, no drama here move on nothing to see.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 29, 2024 15:24:46 GMT
Currently have a couple of Exeter Season ticket holders ,replacing my bathroom.When I spoke of the Gas they both asked why we play Brown as a striker when he clearly isn't one.'Would have him back in a heartbeat' one said. Also spoke of the contrast in personality between our current manager and his predecessor.Spoke well of MT but also told me they were pleased to get rid of Jamal Blackman to Burton.
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Post by gassedOut on Apr 29, 2024 15:48:02 GMT
Advert : Young, hungry, semi professional footballers wanted for a chance of League One football, a sensible wage, and the chance to prove yourself. A few days of open auditions and MT picks the best. Surely this is as likely to succeed as listening to agents, or picking up players already on the merry go round. Not MT's style, He likes to ship out youngsters and make room for older experienced players over 30 ( See his Rotherham days). I guess that why they need a bigger treatment room at he quarters!
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Post by phillistine on Apr 29, 2024 15:49:05 GMT
Well according to various websites we paid over £2 million more last year than Peterborough. They get kids from non league on the way up - we get people used to higher wages on the way down. £2m more than Lincoln as well - same thing
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Post by percy on Apr 29, 2024 16:22:58 GMT
Well according to various websites we paid over £2 million more last year than Peterborough. They get kids from non league on the way up - we get people used to higher wages on the way down. £2m more than Lincoln as well - same thing This sums up where Joey went badly wrong and what our new recruitment team need to try and emulate. I hope we learn from this, but some of the comments re MT and youngsters are worrying me!
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