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Post by supergas on Apr 29, 2024 12:41:22 GMT
I do love a good stat and found this website that I've not come across before that allows you to analyse players across the league via various metrics - for example this is the Rovers players with the highest points per match (a minimum of 30mins/match for that match to qualify): James Wilson - 25(+1) games, 1.50 PPG Jack Hunt - 21(+4) games, 1.44 PPG Matthew Cox - 28 games, 1.32 PPG Luke Thomas - 33(+4) games, 1.32 PPG Chris Martin - 28(+6) games, 1.32 PPG Tristan Crama - 22(+5) games, 1.300 PPG Aaron Collins - 23(+4) games, 1.26 PPG Harvey Vale - 31(+8) games, 1.26 PPG Connor Taylor - 30(+3) games, 1.24 PPG Joshua Grant - 16(+13) games, 1.24 PPG
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 29, 2024 15:34:54 GMT
Amazing that Collins who seemed to lose his appetite for us was nevertheless still our fourth highest scorer.
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Post by nailseamark on Apr 29, 2024 16:16:36 GMT
So James Wilson the player who got loads of hate was actually good?
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Post by aghast on Apr 29, 2024 16:36:59 GMT
So James Wilson the player who got loads of hate was actually good? I'm not sure what those stats say. A good player in a poor side would have a lower ppg than a poor player in a good side.
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Post by pirate on Apr 29, 2024 16:50:56 GMT
So James Wilson the player who got loads of hate was actually good? See Wilson compared to defenders in a playoff side Attachment Deleted
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 29, 2024 17:17:24 GMT
I do love a good stat and found this website that I've not come across before that allows you to analyse players across the league via various metrics - for example this is the Rovers players with the highest points per match (a minimum of 30mins/match for that match to qualify): James Wilson - 25(+1) games, 1.50 PPG Jack Hunt - 21(+4) games, 1.44 PPG Matthew Cox - 28 games, 1.32 PPG Luke Thomas - 33(+4) games, 1.32 PPG Chris Martin - 28(+6) games, 1.32 PPG Tristan Crama - 22(+5) games, 1.300 PPG Aaron Collins - 23(+4) games, 1.26 PPG Harvey Vale - 31(+8) games, 1.26 PPG Connor Taylor - 30(+3) games, 1.24 PPG Joshua Grant - 16(+13) games, 1.24 PPG Wilson, Hunt, Grant - what an appaulling apearance rate.
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Post by supergas on May 1, 2024 8:26:09 GMT
So James Wilson the player who got loads of hate was actually good? I'm not sure what those stats say. A good player in a poor side would have a lower ppg than a poor player in a good side. I think what these stats show us is who was playing when most of our points were won. It's not saying they had a series of good personal performances if they have a high PPG or bad personal performances if they have a low PPG - but this is a measure of all the players in the squad across all the games so it's a big sample size - therefore we should get a good idea of who made the team better (although not necessarily how or if they personally made it better...) Wilson, Hunt, Grant - what an appaulling apearance rate. Wilson was 7th highest in the squad for total minutes played (2197 mins/24.4 games). Hunt was 12th (1731 mins/19.2 games) and Grant 14th with 1559 minutes/17.3 games played.
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Post by daniel300380 on May 1, 2024 10:33:45 GMT
So James Wilson the player who got loads of hate was actually good? See Wilson compared to defenders in a playoff side View AttachmentWilson struggled in a back 4, but he could do a job in a back 3 with the right players next to him. If we had an offer for him, I would take it now. But if we play with a back 3 next season, he could be a good addition to the squad. Shame he's still under contract and probably on a decent wage.
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Post by gashead1981 on May 1, 2024 13:14:42 GMT
I'm not sure what those stats say. A good player in a poor side would have a lower ppg than a poor player in a good side. I think what these stats show us is who was playing when most of our points were won. It's not saying they had a series of good personal performances if they have a high PPG or bad personal performances if they have a low PPG - but this is a measure of all the players in the squad across all the games so it's a big sample size - therefore we should get a good idea of who made the team better (although not necessarily how or if they personally made it better...) Wilson, Hunt, Grant - what an appaulling apearance rate. Wilson was 7th highest in the squad for total minutes played (2197 mins/24.4 games). Hunt was 12th (1731 mins/19.2 games) and Grant 14th with 1559 minutes/17.3 games played. Which shows how fragile this squad is, when a player who's played less than 25 games is 7th in the appearance list. Awful.
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Post by aghast on May 1, 2024 23:05:51 GMT
I'm not sure what those stats say. A good player in a poor side would have a lower ppg than a poor player in a good side. I think what these stats show us is who was playing when most of our points were won. It's not saying they had a series of good personal performances if they have a high PPG or bad personal performances if they have a low PPG - but this is a measure of all the players in the squad across all the games so it's a big sample size - therefore we should get a good idea of who made the team better (although not necessarily how or if they personally made it better...) I don't wish to seem rude but I haven't the faintest idea what that means.
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Post by supergas on May 2, 2024 8:07:52 GMT
I think what these stats show us is who was playing when most of our points were won. It's not saying they had a series of good personal performances if they have a high PPG or bad personal performances if they have a low PPG - but this is a measure of all the players in the squad across all the games so it's a big sample size - therefore we should get a good idea of who made the team better (although not necessarily how or if they personally made it better...) I don't wish to seem rude but I haven't the faintest idea what that means. It's a measure of who was playing vs what points were being won. So for example if player A played in three games that finished 3-0, 1-1 and 0-1 he would have a PPG of 1.33. If player B only played in the win and the draw he would have a PPG of 2.00, and if player C only played in the draw and the defeat he would have a PPG of 0.5. This website works it out for the whole season, discounting short substitute appearance and so tells us which players were actually involved in winning the most points...
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Post by supergas on May 2, 2024 8:47:42 GMT
I think what these stats show us is who was playing when most of our points were won. It's not saying they had a series of good personal performances if they have a high PPG or bad personal performances if they have a low PPG - but this is a measure of all the players in the squad across all the games so it's a big sample size - therefore we should get a good idea of who made the team better (although not necessarily how or if they personally made it better...) Wilson was 7th highest in the squad for total minutes played (2197 mins/24.4 games). Hunt was 12th (1731 mins/19.2 games) and Grant 14th with 1559 minutes/17.3 games played. Which shows how fragile this squad is, when a player who's played less than 25 games is 7th in the appearance list. Awful. Really bad when you dig deeper. I ranked the clubs by their player who was in eleventh place for minutes played for that team. Seems to be a good way to measure first team stability, surely your best players will be in the starting XI whenever possible across 46 games... Top team for 'stability' of player selection is Leyton Orient (their eleventh highest player for mins played completing 2256 mins/25.07 games). Portsmouth and Derby are 13th (21 games played) and 7th (23 games played). I haven't deep-dived too much but maybe they bought well in the January window? Playoff teams average 6th place for team stability (23 games played). Relegated teams average 19th for team stability with their eleventh highest players playing 19 games by this measure. Rovers are 20th with our eleventh highest appearing player completing the equivalent of 19.6 games....
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