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Post by mftc on Aug 3, 2024 12:38:11 GMT
I'm not usually a fan of this as I would prefer a settled side.
However, the game has changed so much, with very high tempo and players putting their bodies to the physical max, playing 100+ minutes, the diving that goes on getting players suspended, the effective banning of tackles and the hotter temperatures.
I suspect that we have around at least 18 players that will start matches in the first 5 games. That's more than Villa used in the entire season when they won the league in the early 80's.
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Post by bambergashead on Aug 3, 2024 13:42:33 GMT
I'm not usually a fan of this as I would prefer a settled side. However, the game has changed so much, with very high tempo and players putting their bodies to the physical max, playing 100+ minutes, the diving that goes on getting players suspended, the effective banning of tackles and the hotter temperatures. I suspect that we have around at least 18 players that will start matches in the first 5 games. That's more than Villa used in the entire season when they won the league in the early 80's. I think Villa only used 14 players that season in the league and mostly the same starting 11. |
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Post by poorblue on Aug 4, 2024 7:16:37 GMT
I'm not usually a fan of this as I would prefer a settled side. However, the game has changed so much, with very high tempo and players putting their bodies to the physical max, playing 100+ minutes, the diving that goes on getting players suspended, the effective banning of tackles and the hotter temperatures. I suspect that we have around at least 18 players that will start matches in the first 5 games. That's more than Villa used in the entire season when they won the league in the early 80's. I think Villa only used 14 players that season in the league and mostly the same starting 11. Rovers when playing at Twerton played all season with 14 (or was it less). Not sure if it was the promotion season? Penrice had the nickname Lasarus as he got off his sick bed countless times to play |
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Post by mftc on Aug 4, 2024 8:02:29 GMT
I think Villa only used 14 players that season in the league and mostly the same starting 11. Rovers when playing at Twerton played all season with 14 (or was it less). Not sure if it was the promotion season? Penrice had the nickname Lasarus as he got off his sick bed countless times to play Not sure it was as few as that, but it wasn't many. Remember Percy got injured and Martyn and Penrice were sold, so their replacements plus Hazel, Browning, Sealy, Willmott,, Crawley etc meant at least 20 were used in the season. |
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Post by bambergashead on Aug 4, 2024 9:12:19 GMT
Rovers when playing at Twerton played all season with 14 (or was it less). Not sure if it was the promotion season? Penrice had the nickname Lasarus as he got off his sick bed countless times to play Not sure it was as few as that, but it wasn't many. Remember Percy got injured and Martyn and Penrice were sold, so their replacements plus Hazel, Browning, Sealy, Willmott,, Crawley etc meant at least 20 were used in the season. Martyn, Parkin, Alexander, Twentyman, Yates, Mehew, Jones, Holloway, Reece, White, Penrice, Saunders, Purnell, Sealy, Willmott, Nixon, McClean, Hazel, Cawley, Byrne. Cannot remember if Billy 'The Judge' Clark played that season. |
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Post by poorblue on Aug 4, 2024 9:18:53 GMT
Definately a squad of 14 in the 1988/89 season. 18 squad next season when promoted
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 4, 2024 10:24:49 GMT
Definately a squad of 14 in the 1988/89 season. 18 squad next season when promoted At the time I was very interested in team squads, I remember the Sheffield Wednesday team in our Division 2 season had 17 players which surprised me for a team that big. Hull City had over 30 in their squad photo including 4 goalkeepers. |
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Post by supergas on Aug 4, 2024 11:27:10 GMT
I'm all for consistency but the comparisons to 30-40 years ago is meaningless. At that point (and at our level) the only thing some of our opponents would have bothered to research about us was having a look for our result in the paper the previous Saturday.
Nowadays you need to adapt your formation (and to a certain extent your playing style) game by game or the opponents will be prepared to counter it from the kick-off. You need to allow for the greater toll on the body (especially from certain players in certain positions).
Plus there is the 'x' factor we didn't have 30+ years ago. It's hard to put it into words but I think you'll know what I mean. In the 70s/80s you knew most of your first XI would give it their all 100% for every game. They may not have had the most talent but they performed to the best they could every minute of every game. I'm not sure we get that from a lot of modern players and therefore you have to be ready to drop some of them if/when they underperform...
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 4, 2024 11:48:35 GMT
The thing is if you have a Bannister/Warboys or a Lambert/Walker or a Cureton/Roberts or a Hayles/Ellington you will be there or thereabouts. i don't see a prolific scorer other than possibly Martin and was hoping we would have a marque signing of a striker who had scored 15-20 in a season.
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Post by bambergashead on Aug 4, 2024 11:49:30 GMT
Definately a squad of 14 in the 1988/89 season. 18 squad next season when promoted Are you sure about that? After just 10 league games we had used the following 17 players according to bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.comMartyn Stapleton Twentyman Clark Mehew Jones Holloway Reece White Penrice Purnell Alexander Smith Dryden McClean Viney Yates EDIT: In the end we used 22 players but 7 of them made 5 or fewer appearances, so I see what you mean when you factor that in, and that effectively Dennis Bailey replaced Paul Smith. |
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