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Post by biggles on Oct 25, 2024 18:54:28 GMT
i reckon he will go to swindon!
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Post by yattongas on Oct 25, 2024 18:58:08 GMT
So bigger in the past but now just a struggling L2 club just like AFC Wimbledon. Oh God. So we're bigger than Bradford aswell huh? No probably not but there’s no way at this moment in time Swindon are a ‘bigger’ club than us. |
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Post by slimbridgegas on Oct 25, 2024 19:02:45 GMT
Personally would have loved him back here. Some of the most exciting football I've seen was when he was in charge. You cannot underestimate the importance of people management and he motivates players. Always surprised at how many Gasheads are negative about him but it is all opinions I guess. Good luck to him. I hope he does a great job and decides to move back to us at the end of the season. Because MT is so bloody boring and it reflects in the rubbish he serves up in every game - the post match interviews are becoming tedious…..you watch we will beat Reading now. 😛 either way Ollie is an inspiration. UTG |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 25, 2024 19:32:25 GMT
Oh God. So we're bigger than Bradford aswell huh? No probably not but there’s no way at this moment in time Swindon are a ‘bigger’ club than us. Ok. Why is that? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 25, 2024 19:38:35 GMT
No probably not but there’s no way at this moment in time Swindon are a ‘bigger’ club than us. Ok. Why is that? They are a division below us , their average crowd is about 7k and ( to my knowledge ) don’t even own the ground they play in . |
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 25, 2024 19:59:45 GMT
Holloway can't be any worse than the other five managers we've tried since DC left, and he'd definitely bring some passion to the job whilst still being a nice guy. Not a combination to be found very often in football. I think Holloway still has a final managerial role in him. I'd give him a go, definitely, even if it's just for this season. If anyone can give us the new manager effect, it would be him at his own club. When did Holloway last manage a successful team, it must be 5+ years ago? When did we last have a successful team? 30 years ago? |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 25, 2024 20:13:01 GMT
They are a division below us , their average crowd is about 7k and ( to my knowledge ) don’t even own the ground they play in . I'm not sure the division is so important, and there's plenty of examples of why not. Their crowds are similar to ours and the number of home fans will be extremely close. Not sure on STs but doubt there's much in that. The ground. Well, do we own ours? Or is it a crumbling, dilapidated fully mortgaged asset being milked by some Kuwaiti blokes? Either way it's not as good as Swindons and theirs is old aswell, albeit full of seats. Their cup performances are better, historical attendances are on par, historical league positions are close but they've played top flight. We are a league higher though and that's what people see. We're also higher than Oldham and they water all over us.. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 25, 2024 20:18:31 GMT
They are a division below us , their average crowd is about 7k and ( to my knowledge ) don’t even own the ground they play in . I'm not sure the division is so important, and there's plenty of examples of why not. Their crowds are similar to ours and the number of home fans will be extremely close. Not sure on STs but doubt there's much in that. The ground. Well, do we own ours? Or is it a crumbling, dilapidated fully mortgaged asset being milked by some Kuwaiti blokes? Either way it's not as good as Swindons and theirs is old aswell, albeit full of seats. Their cup performances are better, historical attendances are on par, historical league positions are close but they've played top flight. We are a league higher though and that's what people see. We're also higher than Oldham and they water all over us.. Don’t agree on Oldham being bigger than us either. Just because they may have been in the past doesn’t mean they are now. Things fluctuate, Bury once played in the top flight but look at them now ( or the phoenix club that’s replaced them). How ever dilapidated our stadium is , we own it which is better than Swindon’s position. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 25, 2024 20:30:46 GMT
I'm not sure the division is so important, and there's plenty of examples of why not. Their crowds are similar to ours and the number of home fans will be extremely close. Not sure on STs but doubt there's much in that. The ground. Well, do we own ours? Or is it a crumbling, dilapidated fully mortgaged asset being milked by some Kuwaiti blokes? Either way it's not as good as Swindons and theirs is old aswell, albeit full of seats. Their cup performances are better, historical attendances are on par, historical league positions are close but they've played top flight. We are a league higher though and that's what people see. We're also higher than Oldham and they water all over us.. Don’t agree on Oldham being bigger than us either. Just because they may have been in the past doesn’t mean they are now. Things fluctuate, Bury once played in the top flight but look at them now ( or the phoenix club that’s replaced them). How ever dilapidated our stadium is , we own it which is better than Swindon’s position. I was going to post the exact same question about Oldham, at just about the same time! You beat me to it yatton. Oldham most definitely are not a bigger club than us at this point in time. This whole idea of clubs being bigger than others can change very quickly. Sometimes in your favour, sometimes not. You just have to look at the National league and esp the National League North to see some fallen giants. Then again go the PL and see AFCB, Brighton and Brentford 3 clubs who will probably be in the top ten teams that we’ve played most in our history. Yet I doubt we’ll be playing them anytime soon. As for Olly, good luck to him. I can’t imagine any Rovers fan not wishing him well in what he does given his legendary status. We all know the strange things that he says which can jar us off at times but his heart is in the right place and although he may be knob at times he is generally speaking our knob so… Personality wise he’s a hundred miles away from MT but good luck to him they will have a bit of fun this season I think. UTG! |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Oct 25, 2024 21:24:06 GMT
Wasn't he Manager when we were pretty much odds on for automatic promotion, playoffs at the least, and blew it? I think we all know what went on and it wasn't a case of Holloway blowing it, more a case of Dunford not being brave enough to back him. we lost that run in of 12 games when Ronnie Mauge got crippled and we were forced to play Dave Pritchard in the centre of the park and Pritch gave his all but we all knew that we was short of key players when the Latvian and Ronnie was off due to international duties and it was left to Hillier and basically youth to carry us through. 100% it was Dunford not willing to take us up because he was all about earning his coin off of rovers and not taking us up to the next level |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Oct 25, 2024 21:30:43 GMT
Going back to that era in my opinion it was Gary Penrice that brought the players in and I still stand by saying this Gary Penrice is up there with David Pleat when it comes to scouting and that's why Gary went on to scout for some of the very best clubs after leaving ollie and us
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Post by squire on Oct 25, 2024 21:40:20 GMT
What a waste letting him go to Swindon what a load of plonkers we are
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Post by baggins on Oct 26, 2024 5:04:44 GMT
Wasn't he Manager when we were pretty much odds on for automatic promotion, playoffs at the least, and blew it? I think we all know what went on and it wasn't a case of Holloway blowing it, more a case of Dunford not being brave enough to back him. How's that? We blew it in the last 5 or 6 games didn't we? Either way, he didn't actually achieve anything in his time as Manager here did he? |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 26, 2024 6:26:52 GMT
I'm not sure the division is so important, and there's plenty of examples of why not. Their crowds are similar to ours and the number of home fans will be extremely close. Not sure on STs but doubt there's much in that. The ground. Well, do we own ours? Or is it a crumbling, dilapidated fully mortgaged asset being milked by some Kuwaiti blokes? Either way it's not as good as Swindons and theirs is old aswell, albeit full of seats. Their cup performances are better, historical attendances are on par, historical league positions are close but they've played top flight. We are a league higher though and that's what people see. We're also higher than Oldham and they water all over us.. Don’t agree on Oldham being bigger than us either. Just because they may have been in the past doesn’t mean they are now. Things fluctuate, Bury once played in the top flight but look at them now ( or the phoenix club that’s replaced them). How ever dilapidated our stadium is , we own it which is better than Swindon’s position. It's ok to disagree. I wouldn't have mentioned bury anyway. Seems like today's league position is the most important factor? Suppose it all depends on what the measurements are and you can clearly argue in different ways. I am looking at infrastructure, history, potential, catchment...rather than league position today, attendance today and relative decline in standing. |
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Post by eric on Oct 26, 2024 6:27:46 GMT
I think we all know what went on and it wasn't a case of Holloway blowing it, more a case of Dunford not being brave enough to back him. How's that? We blew it in the last 5 or 6 games didn't we? Either way, he didn't actually achieve anything in his time as Manager here did he? Lost key players at a vital time but I guess you can still argue he (and the players don’t forget) blew it. Have we since finished a season in a higher league position than then though? |
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 26, 2024 9:16:42 GMT
He's a solid name in the game and he's gone to a bigger club than us.Fair play to him, hope it works out although I do enjoy watching Swindon struggle. Bigger in what way? More roundabouts? |
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Post by mftc on Oct 26, 2024 9:23:46 GMT
I wonder if he might get someone like Macca in January and create a place in the team, where he can thrive like he did at Wimbledon and in his loan spell here.
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Post by wertongas on Oct 26, 2024 10:22:47 GMT
Unfortunately, when Holloway was manager and we were near the top of this league all season, our owners needed money to help pay the loan taken out to buy The Mem, to do this we had to sell Roberts and some of are other better players, Cureton was unhappy with this and asked to leave as well. Holloway says he went to the Dunfords to ask for more money to bring in the players he wanted, but the owners wanted the money to pay off our debts. So began the slide down the league and relegation to league 2, we have never really recovered from that and have struggled on and off in the lower to leagues ever since. The Mem has been a big weight around the neck of our club for a long spell. The Dunfords did allot for this club but the never had the finance the club needed. i am sure if Ollie had had the financial backing our present manager is getting we may never have been relegated to league two and things could have been very different.
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Post by wertongas on Oct 26, 2024 10:40:08 GMT
As for who is the biggest club out of us and Swindon, I would say we have the biggest fan base , but due to lack of investment over the years in the club and stadium , we have not been able to exploit this.When the east side of the stadium is finally developed we will probably have a better stadium than Swindon and over half of the clubs in this division , that is why it is critical that the next phase of developing the Mem is done as soon as it can be.
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 26, 2024 10:46:03 GMT
As for who is the biggest club out of us and Swindon, I would say we have the biggest fan base , but due to lack of investment over the years in the club and stadium , we have not been able to exploit this.When the east side of the stadium is finally developed we will probably have a better stadium than Swindon and over half of the clubs in this division , that is why it is critical that the next phase of developing the Mem is done as soon as it can be. Getting the Mem upgraded properly is fundamental to our medium and long term future. |
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