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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 7, 2024 10:30:13 GMT
Does anyone know if he's injured? He was on the bench on Tuesday, but didn't come on. Then he wasn't on the bench on Saturday.
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 7, 2024 10:53:13 GMT
Dan Hargreaves has just put Taylor said that he wasn't selected. It's good having competition for places. Hopefully he's not taken Hunts place in the toilets🤣
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 7, 2024 10:55:49 GMT
Dan Hargreaves has just put Taylor said that he wasn't selected. It's good having competition for places. Hopefully he's not taken Hunts place in the toilets🤣 Hopefully for his sake as Bolders may be lurking.... |
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Post by socrates on Oct 7, 2024 11:35:52 GMT
Does anyone know if he's injured? He was on the bench on Tuesday, but didn't come on. Then he wasn't on the bench on Saturday. I dunno but after a decent first couple of games he’s been poor. I’ve always thought he had the potential to be our next Billy Bodin but has never really realised that potential., yet. |
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Post by phillistine on Oct 7, 2024 11:39:18 GMT
i dont think that it helps that he has been playing in different positions. central midfield earlier, then wingback. The only time that he was a winger was for the final session at Peterborough when he had Ward passing him the ball and he was a key part of the minin revival./
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Post by joefrankie on Oct 7, 2024 11:55:09 GMT
Does anyone know if he's injured? He was on the bench on Tuesday, but didn't come on. Then he wasn't on the bench on Saturday. I dunno but after a decent first couple of games he’s been poor. I’ve always thought he had the potential to be our next Billy Bodin but has never really realised that potential., yet. He's not helped by the current obsession in the game (not just MT) of playing wingers on the wrong side. If we played Sinclair wide right and LT wide left, we'd be getting dozens of crosses in each game. Playing them on the wrong side is so easy to defend against. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 7, 2024 12:33:04 GMT
I dunno but after a decent first couple of games he’s been poor. I’ve always thought he had the potential to be our next Billy Bodin but has never really realised that potential., yet. He's not helped by the current obsession in the game (not just MT) of playing wingers on the wrong side. If we played Sinclair wide right and LT wide left, we'd be getting dozens of crosses in each game. Playing them on the wrong side is so easy to defend against. It is weird, how football goes through phases like this. Not many wingers want to take on the full back and put in a decent cross on their strong foot. Most are played on the wrong side, so it's okay when cutting in to shoot. But the majority of the time, players cutting in make the pitch smaller and make it easier for the defending team. Hunt coming in on the right, as made a difference going forward, as well as defensively. Like you say, it's at every level now. Saka, Foden, Salah and many other all play on the opposite side to their strongest foot. |
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Post by eric on Oct 7, 2024 12:43:27 GMT
He’s been set up for a fall all season by MT playing him defence. Farcical use of the squads most naturally talented player
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Post by igotgas on Oct 7, 2024 12:52:00 GMT
He's not helped by the current obsession in the game (not just MT) of playing wingers on the wrong side. If we played Sinclair wide right and LT wide left, we'd be getting dozens of crosses in each game. Playing them on the wrong side is so easy to defend against. It is weird, how football goes through phases like this. Not many wingers want to take on the full back and put in a decent cross on their strong foot. Most are played on the wrong side, so it's okay when cutting in to shoot. But the majority of the time, players cutting in make the pitch smaller and make it easier for the defending team. Hunt coming in on the right, as made a difference going forward, as well as defensively. Like you say, it's at every level now. Saka, Foden, Salah and many other all play on the opposite side to their strongest foot. There’s a reason for that and reason for the examples you give…full backs!! It’s not easier to defend at all (previous poster!) it’s in fact much harder as the idea is for full backs to provide the width and the wide players to play inside and help dominate possession and create overloads. Wasted with this manager. We’re actually ideally suited to it however (if MT had an creative bone in his body) and Mola and Hunt playing outside overlapping while Thomas (right) and Hutchinson (left) came inside to find space to create would be great to watch and would cause chaos. It would also allow for a 10 (Sotiriou / McCormick / Forde) or three more solid CMs to win the battles (Ward / Lindsay / Conteh) (or Garrett if we felt we were going to have more of the ball) and it also allows to play 2 up front if needed. Far more flexible and far harder to defend against than the current, run fast quite a lot and if the opposition play sh** it’ll work and if they don’t, then run around a bit more and a bit longer and a bit quicker or I’ll change half the team again. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 7, 2024 14:00:35 GMT
I haven't been a fan if LT for a while now and it's no surprise to see us get 2 wins without him playing.
I get the playing out of position but JB also tried him at RWB so it's not a new position for him to play. There is bags of ability there but is so frustrating,playing the wrong ball or not taking on the shot when it opens up to do so.
Not sure where LT fits into this team now we have Hunt back fit and Senior to comeback soon Sinclair Forde Bilongo and even Sousa all start in front of him. Hutchinson will surely start getting a bit of game time soon as well and for me LT is currently behind all them and will have to really step it up to even get in the squad.
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Post by mftc on Oct 7, 2024 14:07:51 GMT
I would think LT will play tomorrow so whatever position he has to put in a good performance.
I like him, but he often flatters to deceive. Ie gets into a good position and then makes a bad choice, has a poor cross or shot etc.
Although consistency is something the whole squad struggles to achieve, LT should be showing more with his ability.
Nothing wrong with selecting players who had done well recently. There are only limited spaces in he squad and nearly all the forwards had added something in the last two games.
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 7, 2024 14:09:12 GMT
It is weird, how football goes through phases like this. Not many wingers want to take on the full back and put in a decent cross on their strong foot. Most are played on the wrong side, so it's okay when cutting in to shoot. But the majority of the time, players cutting in make the pitch smaller and make it easier for the defending team. Hunt coming in on the right, as made a difference going forward, as well as defensively. Like you say, it's at every level now. Saka, Foden, Salah and many other all play on the opposite side to their strongest foot. There’s a reason for that and reason for the examples you give…full backs!! It’s not easier to defend at all (previous poster!) it’s in fact much harder as the idea is for full backs to provide the width and the wide players to play inside and help dominate possession and create overloads. Wasted with this manager. We’re actually ideally suited to it however (if MT had an creative bone in his body) and Mola and Hunt playing outside overlapping while Thomas (right) and Hutchinson (left) came inside to find space to create would be great to watch and would cause chaos. It would also allow for a 10 (Sotiriou / McCormick / Forde) or three more solid CMs to win the battles (Ward / Lindsay / Conteh) (or Garrett if we felt we were going to have more of the ball) and it also allows to play 2 up front if needed. Far more flexible and far harder to defend against than the current, run fast quite a lot and if the opposition play sh** it’ll work and if they don’t, then run around a bit more and a bit longer and a bit quicker or I’ll change half the team again. A lot of the time Arsenal and Man City play with center backs, as full backs. Or the full backs invert into midfield. Full backs used to over lap, when wingers played on the side of their strongest foot. So that's not a new thing. They used to both provide the width, but now the game is played more in the middle of the pitch and it takes 100 passes before a goal at times🤣 The best sides cope, as they have more of the ball, so they have time to move around. I can see the principal behind it at the top of the game, with a creative midfield. But a lot of the clubs are trying to copy, when they don't have the players to do it. Then it's easier for the defence, as you are just making the pitch smaller. Pointless, unless you have players taking their place, when they cut inside. |
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Post by Beer Baron on Oct 7, 2024 14:13:35 GMT
Luxury player that simply hasn't produced enough wherever he's played, defended well early in the season though. Said he needed to sit a few games out after the Wycombe match and we've won 2 in 2 since, so can't say he's been missed.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 7, 2024 14:23:24 GMT
He’s been set up for a fall all season by MT playing him defence. Farcical use of the squads most naturally talented player Don’t agree with this at all. He flatters to deceive most of the time and his finishing is woeful. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2024 14:46:55 GMT
He’s been set up for a fall all season by MT playing him defence. Farcical use of the squads most naturally talented player Don’t agree with this at all. He flatters to deceive most of the time and his finishing is woeful. Totally agree with Yatton.. LT is a nice bloke but he has been average at best in the games I have seen. Passing has been poor , attempts at goal negligible and decent crossing non existent. Needs to up his game and has been rightly dropped. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 7, 2024 14:56:10 GMT
There’s a reason for that and reason for the examples you give…full backs!! It’s not easier to defend at all (previous poster!) it’s in fact much harder as the idea is for full backs to provide the width and the wide players to play inside and help dominate possession and create overloads. Wasted with this manager. We’re actually ideally suited to it however (if MT had an creative bone in his body) and Mola and Hunt playing outside overlapping while Thomas (right) and Hutchinson (left) came inside to find space to create would be great to watch and would cause chaos. It would also allow for a 10 (Sotiriou / McCormick / Forde) or three more solid CMs to win the battles (Ward / Lindsay / Conteh) (or Garrett if we felt we were going to have more of the ball) and it also allows to play 2 up front if needed. Far more flexible and far harder to defend against than the current, run fast quite a lot and if the opposition play sh** it’ll work and if they don’t, then run around a bit more and a bit longer and a bit quicker or I’ll change half the team again. A lot of the time Arsenal and Man City play with center backs, as full backs. Or the full backs invert into midfield. Full backs used to over lap, when wingers played on the side of their strongest foot. So that's not a new thing. They used to both provide the width, but now the game is played more in the middle of the pitch and it takes 100 passes before a goal at times🤣 The best sides cope, as they have more of the ball, so they have time to move around. I can see the principal behind it at the top of the game, with a creative midfield. But a lot of the clubs are trying to copy, when they don't have the players to do it. Then it's easier for the defence, as you are just making the pitch smaller. Pointless, unless you have players taking their place, when they cut inside. When Pulis was their manager, Stoke used to select 4 central defenders; no full-backs. It also helps with a bit more presence at set-pieces.
Moore - Taylor - Wilson - Mola
You would then probably have Hunt right-wing and Sousa left wing to help clog things up in the middle.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 7, 2024 15:20:10 GMT
Luxury player that simply hasn't produced enough wherever he's played, defended well early in the season though. Said he needed to sit a few games out after the Wycombe match and we've won 2 in 2 since, so can't say he's been missed. I think we have played him in his natural position only about 10 times which is outside striker like Collins was or ACM. Hes not a winger, a wing back or full back. |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 7, 2024 16:14:24 GMT
It is weird, how football goes through phases like this. Not many wingers want to take on the full back and put in a decent cross on their strong foot. Most are played on the wrong side, so it's okay when cutting in to shoot. But the majority of the time, players cutting in make the pitch smaller and make it easier for the defending team. Hunt coming in on the right, as made a difference going forward, as well as defensively. Like you say, it's at every level now. Saka, Foden, Salah and many other all play on the opposite side to their strongest foot. There’s a reason for that and reason for the examples you give…full backs!! It’s not easier to defend at all (previous poster!) it’s in fact much harder as the idea is for full backs to provide the width and the wide players to play inside and help dominate possession and create overloads. Wasted with this manager. We’re actually ideally suited to it however (if MT had an creative bone in his body) and Mola and Hunt playing outside overlapping while Thomas (right) and Hutchinson (left) came inside to find space to create would be great to watch and would cause chaos. It would also allow for a 10 (Sotiriou / McCormick / Forde) or three more solid CMs to win the battles (Ward / Lindsay / Conteh) (or Garrett if we felt we were going to have more of the ball) and it also allows to play 2 up front if needed. Far more flexible and far harder to defend against than the current, run fast quite a lot and if the opposition play sh** it’ll work and if they don’t, then run around a bit more and a bit longer and a bit quicker or I’ll change half the team again. I've been really impressed with molas ability going forward this season. He's looked dangerous everytime he's decided / or given reign to burst forward from that left centre half position. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 7, 2024 17:43:34 GMT
He’s been set up for a fall all season by MT playing him defence. Farcical use of the squads most naturally talented player Don’t agree with this at all. He flatters to deceive most of the time and his finishing is woeful. Love his work rate, seen him chase back to help out a struggling defence more than once this season. Also seen him in quiet moments but it would help if the midfield could find him, or anyone for that matter. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 7, 2024 17:44:13 GMT
Luxury player that simply hasn't produced enough wherever he's played, defended well early in the season though. Said he needed to sit a few games out after the Wycombe match and we've won 2 in 2 since, so can't say he's been missed. I think we have played him in his natural position only about 10 times which is outside striker like Collins was or ACM. Hes not a winger, a wing back or full back. JB, AM & MT have all played him on the wing and he mostly played there for Barnsley, whenever he's played at No 10 for us he's looked totally lost. |
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