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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 13, 2024 10:41:32 GMT
Another apology from me. The purpose of the thread was to share a daft rumour that a mate of mine was told on Saturday. It certainly wasn't designed for folk to start sniping at each other, pining for the "glory days" of Nick Higgs, nor seeing conspiracy where there is none.
It just seemed like a (very) early April Fools joke and still does.
We don't have the right to know the ins and outs of a cats arsehole when it comes to Rovers and this thread is depressing.
Sorry.
Hope we batter Crawley and Mr T gets cheered off the pitch on Saturday. That sends the only message we really can send.
UTFG 🏴☠️
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Post by clovis on Nov 13, 2024 10:53:57 GMT
I agree with you Dr F. But just in case the rumour is true I have found my Dennis Bergkamp T-Shirt, given away to all those who attended his testimonial match in 2006 v Ajax, which also marked the opening of the new Arsenal ground, a very enjoyable occasion. I shall wear it to the first match in his reign, even though it is red. He is the best player I have seen in the flesh.
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Post by mftc on Nov 13, 2024 11:02:34 GMT
The clue for me in the title is "rumour"
I have heard many rumours in my time, bribary (which was true), players fighting (true several times), going bust (very very nearly), takeovers, new stadiums, new signings, players being sold, Prem u21 in the FL, Elvis is alive, etc etc.
Since the Dunfords days we as fans are less and less involved, as it's all money men, but less Rovers men and the players are here for a few years with a token kiss the badge photo, before moving on with no conviction to the club
The worry for me is that if the owners walk away (and possibly have a firesale of players before then to offset the losses they have made and no new owners come in, what then?D
The dismantling of the support groups means that there is virtually no chance of the sequel Sharescheme 2.
That leaves us totally exposed to anyone the administrators chose doesn't it? That could mean they sell of the ground and then where will we be?
I for one will be watching Bristol Pirates AFC 2032 on Eastville Park, resting on my zimmer and happy to pay cash for a 50/50 if needs be.
If worst comes to very worst, like royalty it will be the Gas are dead, long live the Pirates and we start again from scratch.
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Post by roadman on Nov 13, 2024 11:12:27 GMT
Stuart and Daniel, I don’t have the answers, we all just want a club to be proud of and have some hope. Bates, we’ve had the golf shop manager, it could be Roy Cropper next. All we want is communication, some hope with a ground, a vision for the future. This has been going on for over a year now, JCH travelled in a taxi to the Quarters in a Peterborough tracksuit, did a medical in our clothes and then ended up changing back into Posh clothing and getting a taxi back to their hotel in Portsmouth. It will be fine if we win Saturday, winning football covers up all as DC did when we start winning in the National League. If we lose, and I feel sorry for him, MT will take the heat. Right now, my biggest worry is we could become the next Swindon Town, usually late transfer fees usually means wages paid late next, then HMRC chasing payment………/ Thanks, I wonder if anyone knows what Bates does on a day to day basis. It's so frustrating thinking we might get something done, so many times. The Wembley bloke, then we were told we brought Starnes in from Plymouth as he helped them get their new grand stand and improve their facilities. Now Bates. We won't know if there is anything significant going on, until it is announced, so you never know. I think they were at least looking into developing the ground. They could will decide it's not viable again though! Hopefully this coming out, will give them a kick up the backside and we will have an update soon. We’ve been moving chairs around the Titantic Bristol Rovers for years now since Higgs left. I look at Bates CV, his last job 5 years at Port Vale, Gorringe previously at Brighton and have experienced working at the new Stadium there. Tom did the low hanging fruit stuff, electronic season cards, fan zone, ticketmaster and helped lose staff to reduce the head counts. Bates now come from a Div2, I’ve always said we are Port Vale of Stoke, the totally inferior team in the City. We have Massive Attack, they have Robbie Williams doing concerts and giving money to the club, Bates will struggle here! Tom was asked to leave his chair, it was moved to another office (Titantic), nothing will change, Tom did all the low hanging fruit. We might bin Macron in the summer and get Puma, none of this is building a new stand. He might get us a stadium sponsorship, the Horfield Used Car Stadium, Gorringe missed out on this one. Time for a statement and update Hussain. |
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 13, 2024 11:32:43 GMT
Another apology from me. The purpose of the thread was to share a daft rumour that a mate of mine was told on Saturday. It certainly wasn't designed for folk to start sniping at each other, pining for the "glory days" of Nick Higgs, nor seeing conspiracy where there is none. It just seemed like a (very) early April Fools joke and still does. We don't have the right to know the ins and outs of a cats arsehole when it comes to Rovers and this thread is depressing. Sorry. Hope we batter Crawley and Mr T gets cheered off the pitch on Saturday. That sends the only message we really can send. UTFG 🏴☠️ To be fair the three of them have been sniffing around third and fourth tier clubs so it makes complete sense. Any excuse for a ruckus though! |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 13, 2024 11:32:54 GMT
For all his rights/wrongs you do feel Wael understands the supporter culture and gets the club as a whole. My fear is that the Kuwait ownership certainly don’t and will sell us down the river as soon as they’ve decided we aren’t worth the hassle anymore.
If they aren’t 100% invested in taking us forward properly and a decent offer has been put forward then they have to take it for the good of the club.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 13, 2024 11:36:51 GMT
I spoke to Dan Hargreaves yesterday and he said that Radio Bristol are pulling their hair out and he's had several media requests for interviews with the owners turned down since the start of the season. George Friend won't say anything either.
He gets nothing outside of the pre/post match pressers.
This is another reason to raise my suspicions on the current owners. The " will announce something when we have something to say" only gets so far especially when its been near on a year since the announcement of plans for the stadium etc.
There hasn't been so much as a pre planning application entered. The PPA lists out what we are going to need to do to put in a full application, so if breaking ground in the close season is their intention, they better hurry up because they have got 6 months to get a planning app in, have it allocated, go through consultation, make any ammendments and tender the contracts for construction.
The closest thing we have got so far is having that awful Green Party Councillor for a kiss and a cuddle photo opportunity on X to smooth that particular pussy cat.
My opinion is, and its only my opinion, that either AS don't have the immediate funding to do anything.
Perhaps they have other projects in Kuwait we don't know about which is sucking their cash flow hence people not being paid here and the pinch on reducing the clubs budget and expenditure as much as possible. Also, if Wael was such a pain in the arse, and wants out, why don't they just ping the money to him for 40% of his shareholding and all of the noise goes away. Again, something tells me they don't have the money to do that and if that's the case, these guys aren't as rich as we thought and were on borrowed time anyway at our current loss rate of £4m PA.
Which means everything is riding on the development of the 1/4s and raising capital from the sale of half the land there. But a good portion of that would need to be spent relocating at least 2 of the 13 pitches Abdul says he wants there (haha) which also means that its years away.
So if they do need capital and they also want on the pitch improvements, why be so arrogant in not taking on investors to help? Unless they have some wild wet pipe dream that the next appointment well take us on a Luton like run to the prem where Hussain makes his £70m on us.
Time for an update? Time for an actual plan, a vision and the truth more like.
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 13, 2024 11:43:21 GMT
For all his rights/wrongs you do feel Wael understands the supporter culture and gets the club as a whole. My fear is that the Kuwait ownership certainly don’t and will sell us down the river as soon as they’ve decided we aren’t worth the hassle anymore. If they aren’t 100% invested in taking us forward properly and a decent offer has been put forward then they have to take it for the good of the club. It's a shame he has the business acumen of a pilchard. |
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Post by RD on Nov 13, 2024 12:07:00 GMT
I spoke to Dan Hargreaves yesterday and he said that Radio Bristol are pulling their hair out and he's had several media requests for interviews with the owners turned down since the start of the season. George Friend won't say anything either. He gets nothing outside of the pre/post match pressers. This is another reason to raise my suspicions on the current owners. The " will announce something when we have something to say" only gets so far especially when its been near on a year since the announcement of plans for the stadium etc. There hasn't been so much as a pre planning application entered. The PPA lists out what we are going to need to do to put in a full application, so if breaking ground in the close season is their intention, they better hurry up because they have got 6 months to get a planning app in, have it allocated, go through consultation, make any ammendments and tender the contracts for construction. The closest thing we have got so far is having that awful Green Party Councillor for a kiss and a cuddle photo opportunity on X to smooth that particular pussy cat. My opinion is, and its only my opinion, that either AS don't have the immediate funding to do anything. Perhaps they have other projects in Kuwait we don't know about which is sucking their cash flow hence people not being paid here and the pinch on reducing the clubs budget and expenditure as much as possible. Also, if Wael was such a pain in the arse, and wants out, why don't they just ping the money to him for 40% of his shareholding and all of the noise goes away. Again, something tells me they don't have the money to do that and if that's the case, these guys aren't as rich as we thought and were on borrowed time anyway at our current loss rate of £4m PA. Which means everything is riding on the development of the 1/4s and raising capital from the sale of half the land there. But a good portion of that would need to be spent relocating at least 2 of the 13 pitches Abdul says he wants there (haha) which also means that its years away. So if they do need capital and they also want on the pitch improvements, why be so arrogant in not taking on investors to help? Unless they have some wild wet pipe dream that the next appointment well take us on a Luton like run to the prem where Hussain makes his £70m on us. Time for an update? Time for an actual plan, a vision and the truth more like. Obviously as a Rovers fan, it's natural to be cynical about literally absolutely everything. It's entirely possible that we're worrying about nothing or - at the very least - it's being blown out of proportion. That said, my gut feel from the off with these guys has been that this may well all end in tears and - given there's often no smoke without fire - I think any cynicism pointed at the current owners is likely well placed. Very, very worrying times IMO. Has the feel of complete disaster written all over it. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 13, 2024 12:07:56 GMT
For all his rights/wrongs you do feel Wael understands the supporter culture and gets the club as a whole. My fear is that the Kuwait ownership certainly don’t and will sell us down the river as soon as they’ve decided we aren’t worth the hassle anymore. If they aren’t 100% invested in taking us forward properly and a decent offer has been put forward then they have to take it for the good of the club. It's a shame he has the business acumen of a pilchard. African or European Pilchard? |
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 13, 2024 12:10:57 GMT
I spoke to Dan Hargreaves yesterday and he said that Radio Bristol are pulling their hair out and he's had several media requests for interviews with the owners turned down since the start of the season. George Friend won't say anything either. He gets nothing outside of the pre/post match pressers. This is another reason to raise my suspicions on the current owners. The " will announce something when we have something to say" only gets so far especially when its been near on a year since the announcement of plans for the stadium etc. There hasn't been so much as a pre planning application entered. The PPA lists out what we are going to need to do to put in a full application, so if breaking ground in the close season is their intention, they better hurry up because they have got 6 months to get a planning app in, have it allocated, go through consultation, make any ammendments and tender the contracts for construction. The closest thing we have got so far is having that awful Green Party Councillor for a kiss and a cuddle photo opportunity on X to smooth that particular pussy cat. My opinion is, and its only my opinion, that either AS don't have the immediate funding to do anything. Perhaps they have other projects in Kuwait we don't know about which is sucking their cash flow hence people not being paid here and the pinch on reducing the clubs budget and expenditure as much as possible. Also, if Wael was such a pain in the arse, and wants out, why don't they just ping the money to him for 40% of his shareholding and all of the noise goes away. Again, something tells me they don't have the money to do that and if that's the case, these guys aren't as rich as we thought and were on borrowed time anyway at our current loss rate of £4m PA. Which means everything is riding on the development of the 1/4s and raising capital from the sale of half the land there. But a good portion of that would need to be spent relocating at least 2 of the 13 pitches Abdul says he wants there (haha) which also means that its years away. So if they do need capital and they also want on the pitch improvements, why be so arrogant in not taking on investors to help? Unless they have some wild wet pipe dream that the next appointment well take us on a Luton like run to the prem where Hussain makes his £70m on us. Time for an update? Time for an actual plan, a vision and the truth more like. Owners hiding when things aren’t going well isn’t a new thing. Why are people so vocal about it now? |
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Post by perryfenwick on Nov 13, 2024 12:13:16 GMT
I spoke to Dan Hargreaves yesterday and he said that Radio Bristol are pulling their hair out and he's had several media requests for interviews with the owners turned down since the start of the season. George Friend won't say anything either. He gets nothing outside of the pre/post match pressers. This is another reason to raise my suspicions on the current owners. The " will announce something when we have something to say" only gets so far especially when its been near on a year since the announcement of plans for the stadium etc. There hasn't been so much as a pre planning application entered. The PPA lists out what we are going to need to do to put in a full application, so if breaking ground in the close season is their intention, they better hurry up because they have got 6 months to get a planning app in, have it allocated, go through consultation, make any ammendments and tender the contracts for construction. The closest thing we have got so far is having that awful Green Party Councillor for a kiss and a cuddle photo opportunity on X to smooth that particular pussy cat. My opinion is, and its only my opinion, that either AS don't have the immediate funding to do anything. Perhaps they have other projects in Kuwait we don't know about which is sucking their cash flow hence people not being paid here and the pinch on reducing the clubs budget and expenditure as much as possible. Also, if Wael was such a pain in the arse, and wants out, why don't they just ping the money to him for 40% of his shareholding and all of the noise goes away. Again, something tells me they don't have the money to do that and if that's the case, these guys aren't as rich as we thought and were on borrowed time anyway at our current loss rate of £4m PA. Which means everything is riding on the development of the 1/4s and raising capital from the sale of half the land there. But a good portion of that would need to be spent relocating at least 2 of the 13 pitches Abdul says he wants there (haha) which also means that its years away. So if they do need capital and they also want on the pitch improvements, why be so arrogant in not taking on investors to help? Unless they have some wild wet pipe dream that the next appointment well take us on a Luton like run to the prem where Hussain makes his £70m on us. Time for an update? Time for an actual plan, a vision and the truth more like. Owners hiding when things aren’t going well isn’t a new thing. Why are people so vocal about it now? Because they're not their mates. Next question! |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 13, 2024 12:16:51 GMT
For all his rights/wrongs you do feel Wael understands the supporter culture and gets the club as a whole. My fear is that the Kuwait ownership certainly don’t and will sell us down the river as soon as they’ve decided we aren’t worth the hassle anymore. If they aren’t 100% invested in taking us forward properly and a decent offer has been put forward then they have to take it for the good of the club. Agreed, if they aren't here to develop the ground and move this club forward then I don't get why they have bought the club at all. Would ask if the sensible offer is made that they accept, as you said, for the good of the club. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 13, 2024 12:18:31 GMT
It's a shame he has the business acumen of a pilchard. African or European Pilchard? There's a difference? |
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Post by baggins on Nov 13, 2024 12:20:22 GMT
For all his rights/wrongs you do feel Wael understands the supporter culture and gets the club as a whole. My fear is that the Kuwait ownership certainly don’t and will sell us down the river as soon as they’ve decided we aren’t worth the hassle anymore. If they aren’t 100% invested in taking us forward properly and a decent offer has been put forward then they have to take it for the good of the club. Agreed, if they aren't here to develop the ground and move this club forward then I don't get why they have bought the club at all. Would ask if the sensible offer is made that they accept, as you said, for the good of the club. Not sure they're really bothered about the good of the Club. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 13, 2024 12:33:09 GMT
So much for my 17 page prediction.
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Post by madridgas on Nov 13, 2024 12:41:16 GMT
So why buy BRFC ?
Trading players may reduce losses, but it's highly unlikely they will cover £3m every year. Seen that Prem teams are buying more from overseas than Champ and thus Champ is buying less from League 1 etc. so even the Posh model under pressure. Plus of course little loyalty from players if they see themselves as passing through. Lincoln CEO admits that is their pitch to their prospective players
So where is the money / exit ?
Both Lincoln and Cambridge CEO's see value in their clubs, despite £3m losses each year. Interestingly league 1 was quoted as the 11th most watched league in the world. Only place I can see it from is the US and medium term TV rights as the Wrexham effect moves to other clubs
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Post by baggins on Nov 13, 2024 12:44:37 GMT
So why buy BRFC ? Trading players may reduce losses, but it's highly unlikely they will cover £3m every year. Seen that Prem teams are buying more from overseas than Champ and thus Champ is buying less from League 1 etc. so even the Posh model under pressure. Plus of course little loyalty from players if they see themselves as passing through. Lincoln CEO admits that is their pitch to their prospective players So where is the money / exit ? Both Lincoln and Cambridge CEO's see value in their clubs, despite £3m losses each year. Interestingly league 1 was quoted as the 11th most watched league in the world. Only place I can see it from is the US and medium term TV rights as the Wrexham effect moves to other clubs Makes you want to work out what both the Quarters and Memorial Stadium land is worth doesn't it? |
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 13, 2024 12:48:55 GMT
It's a shame he has the business acumen of a pilchard. African or European Pilchard? Don’t you start. |
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Post by willytopp84 on Nov 13, 2024 12:49:10 GMT
I take it East Stand plans won't be released yet then. Or maybe they will, to show they are in control. 👀 I hope they are I wanna see how many pillars the rest of the stadium will have and will it be same material as the South stand. |
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