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Post by baggins on Nov 14, 2024 13:48:41 GMT
The Fans responsibilty ends when they pay at the turnstile, renew their Season Tickets and support the Team for 90 minutes. Exactly. They don't need to know the ins and outs all the time. Would be nice to just know a little bit as to what's going on though right? |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 14, 2024 13:54:45 GMT
The Fans responsibilty ends when they pay at the turnstile, renew their Season Tickets and support the Team for 90 minutes. Exactly. They don't need to know the ins and outs all the time. No. But as fans who were here before, will be here after, and who genuinely care, it would be good to have better communication. Hearing rumours and fallout is not healthy, plus attendance and engagement are below potential levels. It is fascinating to me how easily pleased our supporters (some of) are. The worrying thing is that many just don't care at all and are completely disconnected. Alas, here we are in a dead ground with a dead atmosphere fairly detached from goings on. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 14, 2024 14:19:48 GMT
Exactly. They don't need to know the ins and outs all the time. No. But as fans who were here before, will be here after, and who genuinely care, it would be good to have better communication. Hearing rumours and fallout is not healthy, plus attendance and engagement are below potential levels. It is fascinating to me how easily pleased our supporters (some of) are. The worrying thing is that many just don't care at all and are completely disconnected. Alas, here we are in a dead ground with a dead atmosphere fairly detached from goings on. I'm not sure we're easily pleased, most of us are glad to turn up, meet Friends, Family, have a few beers, talk about the line up, comment on a few online rumours, discuss the first half over a smoke at half time, that's about it. What else can we do? |
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Post by gaslad83 on Nov 14, 2024 14:24:34 GMT
I think that is a fair reflection. Whether its a cultural thing or not, I'm not sure. When Wael joined us, I remember they were very quiet too. I think the fans have to take responsibility. Lets say the owners unveil the stadium upgrade plans tomorrow. Then when it goes to say the planning committee and there was something that hadn't been thought about included because they hadn't spoken to the local residents or the planning committee or SAG. I can see the headlines from the fans about how incompetent they are. I think staying quiet until plans are finalised is the correct approach and one less likely to water everyone off. The Fans responsibilty ends when they pay at the turnstile, renew their Season Tickets and support the Team for 90 minutes. Fans responsibly is so much more than just that. Owners are just there as a stop gap for so many years before moving on The fans are the ones responsible for keeping the club going surely?? Does it not involve spending money in the ground, buying merch, turning up to club events like the fun day and spending. It’s not as simple as turn up pay for ticket, buy season ticket and watch match. Players are attracted by good fan base etc |
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Post by rainhamgas on Nov 14, 2024 14:29:05 GMT
I agree that we’re not entitled to know everything but good management is about spreading positivity by giving out little bits to foster a bit of hope, expectation and excitement. We know things aren’t always going to go to plan but by being honest with the fans and keeping them regularly updated, could well benefit both sides….
The key part of that being ‘Good management’!
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Post by gaslad83 on Nov 14, 2024 14:34:51 GMT
I agree that we’re not entitled to know everything but good management is about spreading positivity by giving out little bits to foster a bit of hope, expectation and excitement. We know things aren’t always going to go to plan but by being honest with the fans and keeping them regularly updated, could well benefit both sides…. The key part of that being ‘Good management’! 100%~ like last week at the agm meeting we asked about the screen as no news but was accepted. They replied that they have bought it but it’s too heavy for where they are putting it so more work needs to be done to the stand. Could easily communicate that to fans as it just looks like nothing is happening, flip side I suppose is they also now don’t look organised but not checking beforehand. I suppose it’s a lose lose |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 14, 2024 14:40:59 GMT
No. But as fans who were here before, will be here after, and who genuinely care, it would be good to have better communication. Hearing rumours and fallout is not healthy, plus attendance and engagement are below potential levels. It is fascinating to me how easily pleased our supporters (some of) are. The worrying thing is that many just don't care at all and are completely disconnected. Alas, here we are in a dead ground with a dead atmosphere fairly detached from goings on. I'm not sure we're easily pleased, most of us are glad to turn up, meet Friends, Family, have a few beers, talk about the line up, comment on a few online rumours, discuss the first half over a smoke at half time, that's about it. What else can we do? This is the difference between our fans and those of better engaged clubs or passionate fan bases. Ours just turn up and shrug shoulders regardless. This is reflected in our water poor atmosphere and general apathy. I'll assume you've been to other grounds? If there was a scale of engagement and affection between supporters and team. I'd put Newcastle and Leeds as strong examples whilst we would be languishing at the other end of that chart. Does it matter? 😆 it won't because we are unbothered and disengaged! It's why some fans kick off and protest at things whilst ours just argue amongst ourselves on here. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 14, 2024 14:55:45 GMT
I agree that we’re not entitled to know everything but good management is about spreading positivity by giving out little bits to foster a bit of hope, expectation and excitement. We know things aren’t always going to go to plan but by being honest with the fans and keeping them regularly updated, could well benefit both sides…. The key part of that being ‘Good management’! You only have to look at match day threads. We are either world beaters or relegation fodder. That's the problem. Positive news will make some people think they are building a West Country Wembley and the be disappointed it only has 18k seats. Negative news will be, well this thread. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 14, 2024 14:58:01 GMT
I'm not sure we're easily pleased, most of us are glad to turn up, meet Friends, Family, have a few beers, talk about the line up, comment on a few online rumours, discuss the first half over a smoke at half time, that's about it. What else can we do? This is the difference between our fans and those of better engaged clubs or passionate fan bases. Ours just turn up and shrug shoulders regardless. This is reflected in our water poor atmosphere and general apathy. I'll assume you've been to other grounds? If there was a scale of engagement and affection between supporters and team. I'd put Newcastle and Leeds as strong examples whilst we would be languishing at the other end of that chart. Does it matter? 😆 it won't because we are unbothered and disengaged! It's why some fans kick off and protest at things whilst ours just argue amongst ourselves on here. Have you got any examples of lower league teams that have a similar amount of 'success' as we do? |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 14, 2024 15:02:22 GMT
This is the difference between our fans and those of better engaged clubs or passionate fan bases. Ours just turn up and shrug shoulders regardless. This is reflected in our water poor atmosphere and general apathy. I'll assume you've been to other grounds? If there was a scale of engagement and affection between supporters and team. I'd put Newcastle and Leeds as strong examples whilst we would be languishing at the other end of that chart. Does it matter? 😆 it won't because we are unbothered and disengaged! It's why some fans kick off and protest at things whilst ours just argue amongst ourselves on here. Have you got any examples of lower league teams that have a similar amount of 'success' as we do? What do you mean? |
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Post by eagas on Nov 14, 2024 15:51:56 GMT
Our home support is no different to any other football league club, rocking when going well and flat as a pancake when things are on a downturn.
I have friends I have taken to Rovers away matches over the years and other friends who support clubs in the Midlands and East of England, every single one of them always comments on our away support being one of the loudest in that division.
A lot say we deserve better in terms of stadium, I think a lot of us ( probably myself) included have Rovers version of Stockholm syndrome, i.e. being at Twerton and being thankful for having a club and getting back into Bristol. However we are 25 years past that point now and the Memorial is a disgrace to our aspirations.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Nov 14, 2024 15:54:41 GMT
Port Vale's Chairperson,Carol Shanahan regularly on Radio Stoke interacting with fans and telling the world of her hopes and also the actual things which are happening.Their stadium pretty good compared to ours but still plans to modernise it.
The district they are in is Burslem which makes Knowle West looks posh but their ground does them much credit although they have an infuriating habit of roping half the away end seats when we go there.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 14, 2024 15:56:09 GMT
The Fans responsibilty ends when they pay at the turnstile, renew their Season Tickets and support the Team for 90 minutes. Exactly. They don't need to know the ins and outs all the time. In that case why are they holding Q&A sessions with the fans, Abdullatif told us far more at the one he attended than Wael ever told us. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 14, 2024 15:58:06 GMT
Have you got any examples of lower league teams that have a similar amount of 'success' as we do? What do you mean? What was protesting ever achieved at similar size clubs? Reading and Blackburn don't seem any better off, owners wise, following their fans protesting? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 14, 2024 15:59:20 GMT
Port Vale's Chairperson,Carol Shanahan regularly on Radio Stoke interacting with fans and telling the world of her hopes and also the actual things which are happening.Their stadium pretty good compared to ours but still plans to modernise it. The district they are in is Burslem which makes Knowle West looks posh but their ground does them much credit although they have an infuriating habit of roping half the away end seats when we go there. What were the fans saying about her last summer, I doubt she was popular then following their immediate return to L2? |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 14, 2024 16:19:10 GMT
Port Vale's Chairperson,Carol Shanahan regularly on Radio Stoke interacting with fans and telling the world of her hopes and also the actual things which are happening.Their stadium pretty good compared to ours but still plans to modernise it. The district they are in is Burslem which makes Knowle West looks posh but their ground does them much credit although they have an infuriating habit of roping half the away end seats when we go there. The Wembley on the north ! |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Nov 14, 2024 16:19:20 GMT
Port Vale's Chairperson,Carol Shanahan regularly on Radio Stoke interacting with fans and telling the world of her hopes and also the actual things which are happening.Their stadium pretty good compared to ours but still plans to modernise it. The district they are in is Burslem which makes Knowle West looks posh but their ground does them much credit although they have an infuriating habit of roping half the away end seats when we go there. What were the fans saying about her last summer, I doubt she was popular then following their immediate return to L2? She she still faces the fans on a regular basis on Radio Stoke popular or not. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 14, 2024 16:21:54 GMT
I'm not sure we're easily pleased, most of us are glad to turn up, meet Friends, Family, have a few beers, talk about the line up, comment on a few online rumours, discuss the first half over a smoke at half time, that's about it. What else can we do? This is the difference between our fans and those of better engaged clubs or passionate fan bases. Ours just turn up and shrug shoulders regardless. This is reflected in our water poor atmosphere and general apathy. I'll assume you've been to other grounds? If there was a scale of engagement and affection between supporters and team. I'd put Newcastle and Leeds as strong examples whilst we would be languishing at the other end of that chart. Does it matter? 😆 it won't because we are unbothered and disengaged! It's why some fans kick off and protest at things whilst ours just argue amongst ourselves on here. Right lads , I’ve ordered 300 pitch forks . Where & when are we meeting 79 ? |
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Post by bambergashead on Nov 14, 2024 16:59:48 GMT
Have you got any examples of lower league teams that have a similar amount of 'success' as we do? What do you mean? I'll play... How about Port Vale? They've had marginally more success than us as they've won the EFL Trophy twice, got one round further in the FA Cup, have a record crowd greater than ours by over 11,000 and avoided the trap door out of the EFL so far. Like us, they've never played top flight football. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 14, 2024 17:04:50 GMT
This is the difference between our fans and those of better engaged clubs or passionate fan bases. Ours just turn up and shrug shoulders regardless. This is reflected in our water poor atmosphere and general apathy. I'll assume you've been to other grounds? If there was a scale of engagement and affection between supporters and team. I'd put Newcastle and Leeds as strong examples whilst we would be languishing at the other end of that chart. Does it matter? 😆 it won't because we are unbothered and disengaged! It's why some fans kick off and protest at things whilst ours just argue amongst ourselves on here. Right lads , I’ve ordered 300 pitch forks . Where & when are we meeting 79 ? I think you've ordered 299 too many. |
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