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Post by phillistine on Mar 19, 2015 10:46:57 GMT
.that the Mem can go like a Morgue if a match does not go as we would wish. In fact its so well known that the away teams often come with a specific instruction to open positively and try and silence the Mem crowd.
So why do we the fans let this happen?
It is going to be tense tomorrow and whilst we would love to go into an early lead we have to accept that we may have to bite our nails. We must do everything that we can to intimidate Aldershot and drown their b****y drum . Against Eastleigh we were sometimes outsung by less than 200 fans - the whole village as a bloke near me commented.
This is not really a rallying call but a genuine query as to why we the Rovers fans play into the hands of the opposition managers . We seem to wait until Rovers score before the atmosphere whips up when the reality is that we should be getting behind the lads when they are struggling not just when they are on a high from scoring .
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Post by nolongernonleaguegas on Mar 19, 2015 11:01:43 GMT
This won't happen. Only 100 people in middle of the blackthorn sing when we ain't winninng the noise just goes out the back or the side. The other 6,400 just clap when we score and that's about it
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 19, 2015 11:04:42 GMT
This won't happen. Only 100 people in middle of the blackthorn sing when we ain't winninng the noise just goes out the back or the side. The other 6,400 just clap when we score and that's about it Are you saying we all got the clap... wow
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 19, 2015 11:24:10 GMT
As someone who sits in the West Stand, istm this has to be dealt with in the Blackthorn. The noise has to spread from the middle of the Blackthorn, outwards. It's pretty much impossible to get a sustained chant going from anywhere else, unfortunately*. It's just not gonna happen. Even after we score, you can feel Irene spreading from the Blackthorn around the rest of the ground.
Even when the FFS was doing their thing in the Dribuild, quite loudly and for a long time, and even though they could be heard throughout the ground, no one else joined in.
*I tried once in the West Enc, and once is enough, when you do a whole chant, and no one joins in.
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Post by long john silver on Mar 19, 2015 11:28:05 GMT
.that the Mem can go like a Morgue if a match does not go as we would wish. In fact its so well known that the away teams often come with a specific instruction to open positively and try and silence the Mem crowd.
So why do we the fans let this happen?
It is going to be tense tomorrow and whilst we would love to go into an early lead we have to accept that we may have to bite our nails. We must do everything that we can to intimidate Aldershot and drown their b****y drum . Against Eastleigh we were sometimes outsung by less than 200 fans - the whole village as a bloke near me commented.
This is not really a rallying call but a genuine query as to why we the Rovers fans play into the hands of the opposition managers . We seem to wait until Rovers score before the atmosphere whips up when the reality is that we should be getting behind the lads when they are struggling not just when they are on a high from scoring . personally I think the team gets a fantastic level of support given the lack of success the club has had over the years. not every fan has a bowl of happy pills for breakfast before a game and will support the team in there own way.also to be fair how many teams have come to the mem this year and had a really good go at us from the off ? most teams like to sit back and hope the crowd turns if we haven't scored after 30 mins.
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Mar 19, 2015 11:30:16 GMT
Unfortunately the people who have created the famous atmosphere of the Memorial/Eastvile/twerton over the years have been banned (Rightly so)for acts of violence, abusive language etc...
The reason atmospheres, passion and great days out at away grounds were better in the 70's/80's and 90's was because it was full of young angry men fuelled by booze who could get away with it and saw it as the thing to do for fun (Different times back then) You talk to any bloke in his 40s/50s and he'll tell you all about it and will try and tell you it was better.
You cant have a rocking/intimidating atmosphere with a family club approach/ supporters, the true sing your heart out for 90 minutes hard core supporters are usually nutters but we love them! The lasted one to be banned and one of the loudest/influential singers in the blackthorne end was the bloke who punched the Braintree player.
As mentioned above different times, years ago if a fan was bored he would start a funny chant to amuse himself and others as he had no other option but to leave and do something else. If a young man is bored now he'll go straight to his phone and check the scores across the country.
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Post by nolongernonleaguegas on Mar 19, 2015 11:31:53 GMT
If the blackthorn had a back and side is would be extra loud. The amount of times I've been to an away game where there's about 20 home fans singing in the terrace behind the goal which has a back and sides to it but sounds really loud
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Post by ThisCharmingMan on Mar 19, 2015 11:34:36 GMT
As someone who sits in the West Stand, istm this has to be dealt with in the Blackthorn. The noise has to spread from the middle of the Blackthorn, outwards. It's pretty much impossible to get a sustained chant going from anywhere else, unfortunately*. It's just not gonna happen. Even after we score, you can feel Irene spreading from the Blackthorn around the rest of the ground. Even when the FFS was doing their thing in the Dribuild, quite loudly and for a long time, and even though they could be heard throughout the ground, no one else joined in. *I tried once in the West Enc, and once is enough, when you do a whole chant, and no one joins in. Half of the FFS broke their hands when we were chanting up in the Dribuild!
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Post by wutangkillerbees on Mar 19, 2015 11:42:46 GMT
Seems like there's a lot less lads in the 16-24 bracket on the blackthorn than there used to be compared to about 10 years ago, I reckon that's probably a major factor. There's a lot of faces I remember as chant starters that I don't really see around much now days, or have seen in other parts of the ground. Yute man need to step up.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 19, 2015 11:57:39 GMT
.that the Mem can go like a Morgue if a match does not go as we would wish. In fact its so well known that the away teams often come with a specific instruction to open positively and try and silence the Mem crowd.
So why do we the fans let this happen?
It is going to be tense tomorrow and whilst we would love to go into an early lead we have to accept that we may have to bite our nails. We must do everything that we can to intimidate Aldershot and drown their b****y drum . Against Eastleigh we were sometimes outsung by less than 200 fans - the whole village as a bloke near me commented.
This is not really a rallying call but a genuine query as to why we the Rovers fans play into the hands of the opposition managers . We seem to wait until Rovers score before the atmosphere whips up when the reality is that we should be getting behind the lads when they are struggling not just when they are on a high from scoring . personally I think the team gets a fantastic level of support given the lack of success the club has had over the years. not every fan has a bowl of happy pills for breakfast before a game and will support the team in there own way.also to be fair how many teams have come to the mem this year and had a really good go at us from the off ? most teams like to sit back and hope the crowd turns if we haven't scored after 30 mins. I accept what you say but it is illogical.
Yes we can take the attitude that they do not deserve support. You can insist that they win the league before you start to get behind them
At the end of the day however, the players who wear the shirt will probably do so for 2 years or so and then they will move on.
So who are we punishing by not getting behind the team and encouraging them?
Us - the supporters who will be here long after most of the players have gone.
Surely it is in our own interests to try and get them playing as well as we can to try and elevate Rovers through the leagues. To suggest that the people who actively support them through thick and thin have "a bowl of happy pills for breakfast" is just insulting .
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Post by pirateman on Mar 19, 2015 12:15:37 GMT
Where do I get these happy pills?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 19, 2015 12:45:26 GMT
Could it be that the team v Eastleigh and many home games this season started very slowly ? Not getting players involved who can make an impact on the ball ? Playing awful long -ball stuff (Eastleigh all game !!).
This, in my view, is down to the manager just as much as the players. He doesn't set the team up to play on the front foot - could it be that he fears failure ? Halifax also showed that he would rather play the grafters than the flair players. Of course a team needs a balance but I see a team too heavily leaning towards the grafters.
I was literally bored at the Eastleigh game and I am a very very PASSIONATE GASHEAD !
So for me - it's the manager and the players who have to deliver - surely we are as good as in the playoffs - so shackles off and put the flair players ON from the start !!
Don't believe DC will do it - so won't be there tomorrow - GOOD LUCK to you all - and I hope the players and supporters BRING ON a much- improved performance in comparison to the last 3 home games.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 19, 2015 15:53:07 GMT
where has the OP been for most of the last 15 years? It's been hell being a rovers fan. they are bleeding lucky we still go. as usual the fans get blamed for everything. BTW - I guess people can;t always hear it further away but there are mini-chants, and funny shouts in all areas of the Blackthorn (except bit closest to centenery terrace). They just don;t always spread. People do still try.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 19, 2015 15:59:00 GMT
Could it be that the team v Eastleigh and many home games this season started very slowly ? Not getting players involved who can make an impact on the ball ? Playing awful long -ball stuff (Eastleigh all game !!). This, in my view, is down to the manager just as much as the players. He doesn't set the team up to play on the front foot - could it be that he fears failure ? Halifax also showed that he would rather play the grafters than the flair players. Of course a team needs a balance but I see a team too heavily leaning towards the grafters. I was literally bored at the Eastleigh game and I am a very very PASSIONATE GASHEAD ! So for me - it's the manager and the players who have to deliver - surely we are as good as in the playoffs - so shackles off and put the flair players ON from the start !! Don't believe DC will do it - so won't be there tomorrow - GOOD LUCK to you all - and I hope the players and supporters BRING ON a much- improved performance in comparison to the last 3 home games. sadly true. I've been bored stupid at quite a few games this season, and other seasons. And frustrated at how many chances we miss, how much hoofing we do, and how little creativity/quality the managers allow on the pitch. It would also have been nicethis season to have had a few more wins were people could relax a bit and enjoy it. Only relatively 'easy' victories I can remember were Macc, Lincoln and Nuneaton, and even then we were rocked by Nuneaton coming back to 2-1 and putting us under pressure for a while. Give me a Carayol any days, despite his weaknesses. Every time he got the ball we took a sharp intake of breath.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 19, 2015 17:54:25 GMT
where has the OP been for most of the last 15 years? It's been hell being a rovers fan. they are bleeding lucky we still go. as usual the fans get blamed for everything. BTW - I guess people can;t always hear it further away but there are mini-chants, and funny shouts in all areas of the Blackthorn (except bit closest to centenery terrace). They just don;t always spread. People do still try. "where has the OP been for most of the last 15 years?"
I have been to virtually every home game and many many away games for over 30 years .
The reality is that we cant stay in mourning forever lambasting how far we have dropped or it will always be the same. We need to start dealing with the here and now
God forbid that anyone tries to look forward as they get criticised for swallowing happy pills as if they are somehow simpletons.
If you are miserable dwelling on the past then you are seen as realistic
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 19, 2015 20:40:29 GMT
"I've been bored stupid at quite a few games this season" You sure you weren't born that way? no need for personal abuse.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 19, 2015 20:43:53 GMT
where has the OP been for most of the last 15 years? It's been hell being a rovers fan. they are bleeding lucky we still go. as usual the fans get blamed for everything. BTW - I guess people can;t always hear it further away but there are mini-chants, and funny shouts in all areas of the Blackthorn (except bit closest to centenery terrace). They just don;t always spread. People do still try. "where has the OP been for most of the last 15 years?"
I have been to virtually every home game and many many away games for over 30 years .
The reality is that we cant stay in mourning forever lambasting how far we have dropped or it will always be the same. We need to start dealing with the here and now
God forbid that anyone tries to look forward as they get criticised for swallowing happy pills as if they are somehow simpletons.
If you are miserable dwelling on the past then you are seen as realistic
i rather assumed the emoticons made it clear it was tongue in cheek. No need to defend your personal dedication. On a personal level i join in with all positive songs / chants etc, and am very vocal, but i would never dream about moaning about the ones who don't. Live and let live.
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Post by tumshie on Mar 19, 2015 20:48:51 GMT
How's about we all support our club the way we choose to.
Just a thought.
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Post by 4evergas67 on Mar 20, 2015 0:06:54 GMT
Been a little disappointed with the Thorn at some points this season. More than a couple times myself and a few of the other 'dads' in the family enclosure have been tempted to start the "is this a library" chant. But I can understand how hard it is to get everyone going when we very rarely see a comfortable score line against teams when it counts, As for the FFS the "feeling gas gas gas" chant coming from you lot going mental at the top of the Dribuild will live with me forever.
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Post by bs20gas on Mar 20, 2015 0:44:58 GMT
That was a joke to ban that Bloke for that incident at Braintree, he didn`t punch the player he poked him with an e cigarette in the heat of the moment because the player conned the referee for a penalty and was smirking at the Rovers supporters he should have been ejected from the ground at worse, the club should let him back in by now we have missed his passion big time.
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