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Post by markczgas on Jun 25, 2014 20:53:28 GMT
Mark, no, my comments should still make sense to you. I know very well about the FFS as I give money also and in several other ways, but does this give me a right to shout everyone down ? no, this is not a my way or no way support. I can see you are upset by my comments and I am sorry for that,but to be honest we can all point to things we are doing or have done for the club, I wont bore you with mine. We are all supporting one team so again, sorry if I upset you. Accept your apology. You are making off-the-cuff remarks (not a good idea) when you could ask first. I think you need to accept that supporters who are NOW critical of the board come from a very big cross-section of support and even if you don't agree with it you should respect it. Are you convinced by NH's interview ? Why is their response to the supporters so slow, don't you think the board should have been pro-active as soon as the dust had settled after May 3rd ? It is so disappointing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 6:37:42 GMT
There seems to have been a dramatic change in tack by NH since relegation. Towards the end of last season we were treated to 'we need to give the fans a team they deserve' and 'unbelievable loyalty and support'. Now we get dismissive statements full of contempt for the supporters. It really does need to change soon as it's a one way ticket to a broken club going down again. Why doesn't NH just come out and say 'we apologise for relegation, the supporters deserve so much better, we are backing DC and we need to unite behind him'? It would be a start at least. I agree, it feels like a war zone at the moment and it will be hard for some of us to get behind the club with such emotions |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 26, 2014 7:12:38 GMT
Thanks for the lecture Mark. What I need to accept and respect is my business. Oh and could you keep the conversation on here, you don't need to use PM's to tell me how to behave or ask my name !
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 26, 2014 8:59:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 9:22:34 GMT
Lockleazer, can you not see why official groups are used instead of a bunch of unknowns ? You could be a bunch of naughty Teds for all the BOD know. These really do need to be thought through before jumping up and down. Sadly you are very wrong - Nick should know all three of us leading the group at The Wellie !!! One of them attends meetings at the club very often, another is the leader of THe Fans Forum Sponsor Club that raised £7,500 to sponsor our youth players and young pros over 18 months and I worked for the club for 4 years and also gave up my own free time to contribute to the matchday programme (for the last THREE seasons), I have also been a voluntary scout looking for the best youngsters at tournaments throughout the summer giving up my Saturdays and SUndays ( and yes I have a wife and two kids). Does Nick know my name probably NOT because he never asked me - I would as I always did on seeing him politely say hello to him and I congratulated him with all my heart when THe UWE went through !! Would you like to retract your comments ? Totally eith Mark on this. For Newmarket to describe fans of the club as a bunch of unknowns is risible. But sadly I think that way of thinking is an accurate reflection of the attitude of the BoD. Can you imagine any other face to face consumer business conducting themselves this way? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 9:24:58 GMT
It's not Newmarket that's calling them a bunch of unknowns, he is making the point that the Board are doing that isn't he?
Or did I miss something?
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 26, 2014 9:43:55 GMT
Yes and No, do any of you know me ? if no, then I am unknown to you ? that does not make me 'unknown' as a person. What I was saying is.......I can see why the BOD want to talk to fans through an organisation, for one simple reason you only have to say everything once, rather than meet several different groups and repeat.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 10:14:54 GMT
Yes and No, do any of you know me ? if no, then I am unknown to you ? that does not make me 'unknown' as a person. What I was saying is.......I can see why the BOD want to tns through an organisation, for one simple reason you only have to say everything once, rather than meet several different groups and repeat. Newmarket I am afraid you miss the point. Customers are gold dust, spending their hard earned post tax £notes in the business. They contact you with a comment on your business and you refuse to engage with them, in a sort of autharitarian holier than thou attitude? If the club, or more accurately the holding company and its directors that owns the club, had any professionalism about them whatsoever, the minimum they do in response is reply with a holding letter or email directing the correspondant to an official channel, group or even better, get the director responsible for fan communication to write directly to them. Thats what the two, Masters and BSS are there for, are they not? No customer should be described as an unknown, its pathetic. This sort of stuff just reinforces the viewpoint that this BoD are incapable of running a professional football club and do not have the skill sets to run a consumer business. They are acting just like a petty, officious committtee of local park club. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 26, 2014 11:47:01 GMT
I missed the point ? You all seem hooked on the 'unknown' word, this in it's self just goes to show how hard it is going to be for anyone to make your group happy, I don't mean to be rude but this attitude seems to show a petty and overly bureaucratic style that is going to get backs up before you start.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 11:58:58 GMT
In the position we now find ourselves the bod should be reaching out to the supporters,not the other way around.just saying.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 26, 2014 12:14:51 GMT
I agree MC but this could turn into protest group wars, imagine if one group had a word with the BOD and the others did not ! Another reason IMO they are trying to do this through one group the SC. To be honest I don't want this to turn into a slanging match so I will not be answering any more on the subject, others can debate away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 13:16:21 GMT
Bss cofirmes st holders and sc members only. I stated inwante to see the results of the review and the meeting prior to making a decision on buying a season ticket but he said i cant attend. Fact is there are certain people they categorically don't want to come because they feel intimidated by them. For example, GD will answer people via twitter but if you probe a little further or question those replies you will get blocked and the staff at Rovers informed. They want to structured and questions in advance. If you notice Geoff tweeted 3 days ago that "the review will be done and we will see what happens when the changes are in place, I am still angry about relegation" This review is not a review as we would expect. It seems to have caused infighting between board members with Higgs and Bradshaw in a strange alliance with the others on the other side. This needs careful planning to sort it out but my opinion is that it will be more of the same. I can't see any palpable change happening but more placing blame. The way the club is run and the debt doubling in the last year makes me question how long we can survive regardless of if we did manage to get promoted in season one. The club is simply not viable in the manner it is run now. |
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Post by pirate49 on Jun 26, 2014 15:06:04 GMT
Hello newmarketgas.
There are not loads of splinter groups. As far as I know our gathering at the marquee was
the only one of its type. As regards forums there have always been more than one.
Our group will formalise under a name at our meeting on 1st July.
I can vouch for the fact that at our first meeting all there were genuine, concerned fans;
most 'of a certain age'! Whilst voicing concerns the main focus was to determine how the club
could turn the tide. There was a distinct absence of hotheads....just loyal fans with many years
of frustration and disappointment behind us!
I know this does not fully answer all of your reservations; but I hope you will trust that our sole
aim is to work with the club to identify failings and 'make things better'
We are realistic in realising that the present board is unlikely to significantly change in personnel, but
want them to be open to suggestion and advice from many who are well placed to give it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 20:22:51 GMT
Bss cofirmes st holders and sc members only. I stated inwante to see the results of the review and the meeting prior to making a decision on buying a season ticket but he said i cant attend. Fact is there are certain people they categorically don't want to come because they feel intimidated by them. For example, GD will answer people via twitter but if you probe a little further or question those replies you will get blocked and the staff at Rovers informed. They want to structured and questions in advance. If you notice Geoff tweeted 3 days ago that "the review will be done and we will see what happens when the changes are in place, I am still angry about relegation" This review is not a review as we would expect. It seems to have caused infighting between board members with Higgs and Bradshaw in a strange alliance with the others on the other side. This needs careful planning to sort it out but my opinion is that it will be more of the same. I can't see any palpable change happening but more placing blame. The way the club is run and the debt doubling in the last year makes me question how long we can survive regardless of if we did manage to get promoted in season one. The club is simply not viable in the manner it is run now. Totally agree |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 2:43:23 GMT
I missed the point ? You all seem hooked on the 'unknown' word, this in it's self just goes to show how hard it is going to be for anyone to make your group happy, I don't mean to be rude but this attitude seems to show a petty and overly bureaucratic style that is going to get backs up before you start. Oh the irony. None so blind as those that cannot see. |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 27, 2014 6:59:52 GMT
Bss cofirmes st holders and sc members only. I stated inwante to see the results of the review and the meeting prior to making a decision on buying a season ticket but he said i cant attend. Fact is there are certain people they categorically don't want to come because they feel intimidated by them. For example, GD will answer people via twitter but if you probe a little further or question those replies you will get blocked and the staff at Rovers informed. They want to structured and questions in advance. If you notice Geoff tweeted 3 days ago that "the review will be done and we will see what happens when the changes are in place, I am still angry about relegation" This review is not a review as we would expect. It seems to have caused infighting between board members with Higgs and Bradshaw in a strange alliance with the others on the other side. This needs careful planning to sort it out but my opinion is that it will be more of the same. I can't see any palpable change happening but more placing blame. The way the club is run and the debt doubling in the last year makes me question how long we can survive regardless of if we did manage to get promoted in season one. The club is simply not viable in the manner it is run now. GoD blocked me because I posted two tweets too him. Critical, but not rude. I expect mostly because of who I am than anything else |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 27, 2014 7:02:06 GMT
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Post by peterparker on Jun 27, 2014 7:16:49 GMT
I have never hid my name so
Simon 'Sprout' Phillips.
I had 'run ins' with Geoff back years ago when it all kicked off in the boardroom and Geoff 'criticised' John M the SC Chair at the time.
Geoff and Co. also asked a good man to lie to me about why myself and 3 others were removed from The match day Programme, they needed more space for stadium redevelopment news would you believe.
(Said good man would not pass the lie on, I might add)
Geoff doesn't like challenge |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 27, 2014 9:04:51 GMT
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Post by peterparker on Jun 27, 2014 10:19:54 GMT
I thought you were Spiderman. only for Cosplay |
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I thought you were Spiderman.