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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 6:59:23 GMT
I know mate, I just don't understand how we can blame some people for not doing a good job ( BOD ) yet we as supporters can't get this lot out!
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Post by peterparker on Jul 3, 2014 7:04:33 GMT
Trash have cost us everything we ever had, we should never forget what they did. The Greens should be voted out of Bristol for ever !
Yes they have cost us, however they haven't mismanaged the football club for over a decade with a finance director who doesn't plan more than 5 minutes into the future
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jul 3, 2014 7:13:46 GMT
You can't just blame TRASH!
A group of residents/lobbyists was ALWAYS going to drag this application on, we and Sainsbury's knew that from the start, if we didn't, well we need to wake up.
Yes, TRASH etc held us up of that there is no doubt. The main problem imo was that similar to Steve Lansdown at Bristol City we have taken our eye completely off the football chasing our "Promised Land" and as a result slipped two divisions (City just scraped dropping 2 also. We have employed Managers to basically run the whole club without much guidance or mandate while everyone else is planning for UWE.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 7:18:17 GMT
Yes Peter, sorry to stop hitting the BOD over the head to have a chat about the Greens. I will behave a little better each day.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 7:20:42 GMT
Jon, do you honestly think we would be in the conference if Trash did not exist ? Because I don't, we are no better than the BOD if we take our eye off this ball.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 7:30:36 GMT
Trash formed last summer. We have been sh** for 5 years.
I don't doubt Trash contributed to our downfall but they are only part of the reasons.
Players. Managers. Trash. Board. The pitch. FFP. Injuries.
It's not one group to blame. If you look at everything in black and white you won't get much colour out of life.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jul 3, 2014 7:35:22 GMT
Honestly, yes i do my good friend.
Nick has already confirmed "Their eye was taken of the football" at the SC EGM, John Ward was left to run the club as he saw fit, it appears he was in effect losing interest in football management (hence his looking for a DoF role at Plymouth and here)the BoD should have kept a constant eye on the playing side and demanded better earlier imo. An example being John thinking we didn't need a striker in the Transfer Window - We did need one, of this most inside and outside the club agree on.
My concern is that we will be doing the same again with even less staff at the club. UWE must come to fruition, i believe our entire future relies upon it, but we MUST find a way of others stepping up and overseeing the football side and let Nick Higgs concentrate on something he is very good at - Getting projects built succesfully. He needs others to step up imo.
Newmarket, can i just say i respect your honest views and the way you debate my posts with equal respect, i think we must all chat about what is obviously emotional matters with dignity. I thank you for that and promise you i only have the clubs interests at heart.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 7:36:07 GMT
Hugo , Do you honestly think we would have gone down without Trash getting stuck in? We can't only blame the board either!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 7:39:28 GMT
Jon, do you honestly think we would be in the conference if Trash did not exist ? Because I don't, we are no better than the BOD if we take our eye off this ball. If you genuinely believe that, and I have no doubt that you genuinely do, that is terrible indictment of the BoD and their abilities, do you not see that. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 7:39:54 GMT
Jon, you have my respect as always, I would have a guess that you have done more for this club than any other person in recent times. We need to get you up for an OBE, you would cut a fine figure at the Palace. I might even drag myself out to see that.  |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 7:42:30 GMT
Oldie, yes and no, they had to fight for the UWE but they did take the preverbial eye off the ball, human errors I guess.
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Post by RD on Jul 3, 2014 7:45:43 GMT
Problem is, we don't have a particularly good record of doing well when we have had big budgets! We had a big budget last year and now find ourselves in non-league!
Granted, I would be furious if we had less than the average Conference budget as there would be no excuse whatsoever for that with the gates we get.
Our aim should be playoffs, therefore you'd hope we'd have a top 5 budget. Obviously I haven't seen the numbers, but I'd guess we do.
Ultimately a big budget doesn't guarantee success as we have seen many, many times. Spending it wisely, constructing a balanced squad and having a decent manager in place with good tactical acumen does.
There's no reason we can't achieve success with an average budget for this division; which would be an incredibly miniscule budget for us compared to recent years. What's more, you'd guess that by doing so we'd actually be living within our means. There's a thought eh!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 8:06:26 GMT
Hugsraw thato , Do you honestly think we would have gone down without Trash getting stuck in? We can't only blame the board either! I don't know mate. It may have been the straw that broke the camels back but you have to look at who overloaded the camel in the first place. Blaming the Board is too simplistic imo and we need to work with them and accept mistakes were made. Not everything they do is bad. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 3, 2014 8:15:37 GMT
Yes, we have been flogging a dead camel for some time now. Could this be a way forward......Flogging Camels in the car park ?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 3, 2014 8:39:50 GMT
With Toni the Till slowly coming to terms with the budget, I expect that DC is having to cut his cloth closer every day. Well the cost of prawn sandwich's have gone up... |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 3, 2014 8:53:40 GMT
Honestly, yes i do my good friend. Nick has already confirmed "Their eye was taken of the football" at the SC EGM, John Ward was left to run the club as he saw fit, it appears he was in effect losing interest in football management (hence his looking for a DoF role at Plymouth and here)the BoD should have kept a constant eye on the playing side and demanded better earlier imo. An example being John thinking we didn't need a striker in the Transfer Window - We did need one, of this most inside and outside the club agree on. My concern is that we will be doing the same again with even less staff at the club. UWE must come to fruition, i believe our entire future relies upon it, but we MUST find a way of others stepping up and overseeing the football side and let Nick Higgs concentrate on something he is very good at - Getting projects built succesfully. He needs others to step up imo. Newmarket, can i just say i respect your honest views and the way you debate my posts with equal respect, i think we must all chat about what is obviously emotional matters with dignity. I thank you for that and promise you i only have the clubs interests at heart. Agree 100% with your Comment Jon, i just wish people on the IF did the same |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 15:29:35 GMT
Honestly, yes i do my good friend. Nick has already confirmed "Their eye was taken of the football" at the SC EGM, John Ward was left to run the club as he saw fit, it appears he was in effect losing interest in football management (hence his looking for a DoF role at Plymouth and here)the BoD should have kept a constant eye on the playing side and demanded better earlier imo. An example being John thinking we didn't need a striker in the Transfer Window - We did need one, of this most inside and outside the club agree on. My concern is that we will be doing the same again with even less staff at the club. UWE must come to fruition, i believe our entire future relies upon it, but we MUST find a way of others stepping up and overseeing the football side and let Nick Higgs concentrate on something he is very good at - Getting projects built succesfully. He needs others to step up imo. Newmarket, can i just say i respect your honest views and the way you debate my posts with equal respect, i think we must all chat about what is obviously emotional matters with dignity. I thank you for that and promise you i only have the clubs interests at heart. Agree 100% with your Comment Jon, i just wish people on the IF did the same Henbury missed you at the meeting ? Wanted to buy you a pint. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 3, 2014 18:09:42 GMT
Agree 100% with your Comment Jon, i just wish people on the IF did the same Henbury missed you at the meeting ? Wanted to buy you a pint. I did not go because i thought my life was in danger...  Wanted to go but was so knackered after a 13 hour day working in my business i was knackered ! Maybe next time |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 3, 2014 18:23:42 GMT
Back to the OP the club can't spend Lambert's transfer fees until it's paid next season and they can hardly spend Santos' etc transfer fee when they haven't a clue what they will get or when it's going to be paid?
We already have a back 5 plus Brunt on decent wages, not forgetting the cloud hanging over the club caused by the delay in Sainsbury's signing the Mem contracts.
Hopefully Harrold & Gow moving on will free up some more playing budget.
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