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Post by baggins on May 29, 2015 12:01:16 GMT
Well, the 20 mph zones don't annoy me, coz I ignore them. This. Well, kind of. They annoy me because I have to ignore them. And I feel bad for doing that. But still do it nonetheless. I bet you thought that when you purposely drove through that puddle aand soaked me this morning.
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Post by RD on May 29, 2015 12:03:22 GMT
This. Well, kind of. They annoy me because I have to ignore them. And I feel bad for doing that. But still do it nonetheless. I bet you thought that when you purposely drove through that puddle aand soaked me this morning. Just be thankful I'm a poor driver. I wasn't aiming for the puddle.
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Post by baggins on May 29, 2015 12:04:57 GMT
I bet you thought that when you purposely drove through that puddle aand soaked me this morning. Just be thankful I'm a poor driver. I wasn't aiming for the puddle. Oh that's just charming. And a tad worrying.
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Post by supergas on May 29, 2015 12:22:00 GMT
I always thought it a bit odd Sainsbury's would want to build a store in Horfield when they had one at Filton, did they inc the onerous conditions so they always had a get out of jail card?? I'm not sure how a comprise deal would work as surely the judge has been asked to decide if the contract is binding or not? Surely dependant on the Judges view of the contract and events
She might think Sainsbury's don't have to buy the site but decide Sainsbury's should pay us for costs accrued from x date
Why? Either the contract is binding or not...surely we wouldn't have got this far if there was a deal to be made? We either sell the Mem for the full price or don't...who want's anything in the middle? And that's not bravado, it's a serious question...I would compare middle-ground compensation with last season's relegation - it will make or break us
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Post by baggins on May 29, 2015 12:28:14 GMT
Does anyone have a slight sniff of when the good lady Judge will make her decision known?
Just wondering when I should get the Nutella warmed up.
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Post by gassince1957 on May 29, 2015 12:44:45 GMT
Surely dependant on the Judges view of the contract and events
She might think Sainsbury's don't have to buy the site but decide Sainsbury's should pay us for costs accrued from x date
Why? Either the contract is binding or not...surely we wouldn't have got this far if there was a deal to be made? We either sell the Mem for the full price or don't...who want's anything in the middle? And that's not bravado, it's a serious question...I would compare middle-ground compensation with last season's relegation - it will make or break us How would middle-ground compensation break us? Assuming it paid all the costs and cleared the debts, it would leave the club in a better financial position than it has ever been in since we came back to Bristol. No new stadium, but no debts either which might make the club a more attractive proposition to potential investors. Losing the case completely and having to pay Sainsbury's costs on top of our own could break us though.
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Post by supergas on May 29, 2015 13:13:15 GMT
Why? Either the contract is binding or not...surely we wouldn't have got this far if there was a deal to be made? We either sell the Mem for the full price or don't...who want's anything in the middle? And that's not bravado, it's a serious question...I would compare middle-ground compensation with last season's relegation - it will make or break us How would middle-ground compensation break us? Assuming it paid all the costs and cleared the debts, it would leave the club in a better financial position than it has ever been in since we came back to Bristol. No new stadium, but no debts either which might make the club a more attractive proposition to potential investors. Losing the case completely and having to pay Sainsbury's costs on top of our own could break us though. Good question... ..I hoped it would provoke debate and I'm glad it did.The biggest problem I can see with a compensation deal is that the board will be sucked back into a 3-5 year cycle that we've been in for the last 7/10/20 years. From what we've been told we should win it and get paid the full value of the contract. Lose it and I no-one knows what happens. Somewhere in the middle and I fear we'll be stuck in the middle of nowhere for another generation...whether that's good or bad overall I don't know, but on and off the field we've been wandering in the wilderness for years, so I can't see a half-ars ed solution helping us progress.
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Post by inee on May 29, 2015 13:30:24 GMT
Does anyone have a slight sniff of when the good lady Judge will make her decision known? Just wondering when I should get the Nutella warmed up. Nope soon i hope , feeling worse waiting for this than i was during our last 6 games of the season
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 15:30:38 GMT
Does anyone have a slight sniff of when the good lady Judge will make her decision known? Just wondering when I should get the Nutella warmed up. Have a feeling Justice Proudman doesn't need lubricating, that's what the nutellas for right?
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Post by Dr Gas on May 30, 2015 2:39:32 GMT
I always thought it a bit odd Sainsbury's would want to build a store in Horfield when they had one at Filton, did they inc the onerous conditions so they always had a get out of jail card?? I'm not sure how a comprise deal would work as surely the judge has been asked to decide if the contract is binding or not? The least onerous compromise to me would be that Shamesbury's have to buy the Mem but do not have to allow us to stay as sitting tenants.
As previously mentioned, we seem to have alternative venues lined up: To be fair the time at Twerton was a real moral lifter; that is probably because I am gert old and remember so many poor seasons, which also continued at the start of Twerton but led into the real Azteca attitude.
We already seem to have a siege mentality within the team, so I am confident that DC will utilise any further obstacles to actually motivate the players.
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Post by baggins on May 30, 2015 5:38:59 GMT
Does anyone have a slight sniff of when the good lady Judge will make her decision known? Just wondering when I should get the Nutella warmed up. Have a feeling Justice Proudman doesn't need lubricating, that's what the nutellas for right? Was thinking of a quiet night in on my own to be honest.
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Post by Gas4life!!! on May 30, 2015 8:04:05 GMT
Have a feeling Justice Proudman doesn't need lubricating, that's what the nutellas for right? Was thinking of a quiet night in on my own to be honest.
She already knows.........just not telling
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 30, 2015 9:15:28 GMT
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Post by vanaramaman on May 30, 2015 10:19:32 GMT
Today is a very big day in the history of BRFC.
Toni Watola continues his evidence at 10.30, I hope he got a good nights sleep. I'm not sure if he has had to attend Court previous but I'm certain it is very stressful.
I'll try to provide a brief update at lunchtime and a full report this evening. some people say having this stadium is important to the future of Bristol rovers I agree to a extent but if that's the case it must be true of clubs like Newport Cambridge portsmouth ect ect and if every league club gets a large multi purpose built stadium we would be still in the same position we are now we would be all equal. Do we really want to be in the prem paying large wages and charging a arm and leg to get in to watch ? or would it be nice just to be like A Gillingham Sheffield Barnsley teams that have mainly floated in league 1 and the championship with us having a tidy stadium of around 18,000 at the mem building new stands over the course of a few years as we afford it , all this throwing are eggs in one basket seems to be very expensive for the club and could jeopardise the future of Bristol rovers, to believe Bristol rovers will be in the prem challenging man u and Chelsea is a dream far away sometimes you just have to live for today and build slowly but if the judge is on our side I will be the happiest man in Bristol if not lets do a careful build of the mem and get to our dream a little slower plan B. good luck on plan A BRFC.PS look at Bournemouth?.
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Post by Gas4life!!! on May 30, 2015 10:28:47 GMT
Today is a very big day in the history of BRFC.
Toni Watola continues his evidence at 10.30, I hope he got a good nights sleep. I'm not sure if he has had to attend Court previous but I'm certain it is very stressful.
I'll try to provide a brief update at lunchtime and a full report this evening. some people say having this stadium is important to the future of Bristol rovers I agree to a extent but if that's the case it must be true of clubs like Newport Cambridge portsmouth ect ect and if every league club gets a large multi purpose built stadium we would be still in the same position we are now we would be all equal. Do we really want to be in the prem paying large wages and charging a arm and leg to get in to watch ? or would it be nice just to be like A Gillingham Sheffield Barnsley teams that have mainly floated in league 1 and the championship with us having a tidy stadium of around 18,000 at the mem building new stands over the course of a few years as we afford it , all this throwing are eggs in one basket seems to be very expensive for the club and could jeopardise the future of Bristol rovers, to believe Bristol rovers will be in the prem challenging man u and Chelsea is a dream far away sometimes you just have to live for today and build slowly but if the judge is on our side I will be the happiest man in Bristol if not lets do a careful build of the mem and get to our dream a little slower plan B. good luck on plan A BRFC.PS look at Bournemouth?. Maybe like the conference take a sample season and see?
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Post by lpgas on May 30, 2015 12:09:44 GMT
And where are we going to get the money to develop the Mem, and now look at all the dozey green councillors there are, what makes you think we would get planning permission? No we need a NEW ground, whether it is the UWE or not, but lets hope it is
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Post by Topper Gas on May 30, 2015 13:23:38 GMT
Today is a very big day in the history of BRFC.
Toni Watola continues his evidence at 10.30, I hope he got a good nights sleep. I'm not sure if he has had to attend Court previous but I'm certain it is very stressful.
I'll try to provide a brief update at lunchtime and a full report this evening. some people say having this stadium is important to the future of Bristol rovers I agree to a extent but if that's the case it must be true of clubs like Newport Cambridge portsmouth ect ect and if every league club gets a large multi purpose built stadium we would be still in the same position we are now we would be all equal. Do we really want to be in the prem paying large wages and charging a arm and leg to get in to watch ? or would it be nice just to be like A Gillingham Sheffield Barnsley teams that have mainly floated in league 1 and the championship with us having a tidy stadium of around 18,000 at the mem building new stands over the course of a few years as we afford it , all this throwing are eggs in one basket seems to be very expensive for the club and could jeopardise the future of Bristol rovers, to believe Bristol rovers will be in the prem challenging man u and Chelsea is a dream far away sometimes you just have to live for today and build slowly but if the judge is on our side I will be the happiest man in Bristol if not lets do a careful build of the mem and get to our dream a little slower plan B. good luck on plan A BRFC.PS look at Bournemouth?. When the plans for the UWE were announced it didn't appear to be very expensive for the club, as the plan was to sell the Mem for £30m and build the UWE whilst paying off most of the Directors loans. Unfortunately time & Trash/Sainsbury's have now made it look an expensive propostion but with Lansdown developing AG if were not careful we could become like Port Vale, who are now firmly in Stoke's shadow, if we don't get a new ground soon.
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Post by peterparker on May 30, 2015 13:26:47 GMT
some people say having this stadium is important to the future of Bristol rovers I agree to a extent but if that's the case it must be true of clubs like Newport Cambridge portsmouth ect ect and if every league club gets a large multi purpose built stadium we would be still in the same position we are now we would be all equal. Do we really want to be in the prem paying large wages and charging a arm and leg to get in to watch ? or would it be nice just to be like A Gillingham Sheffield Barnsley teams that have mainly floated in league 1 and the championship with us having a tidy stadium of around 18,000 at the mem building new stands over the course of a few years as we afford it , all this throwing are eggs in one basket seems to be very expensive for the club and could jeopardise the future of Bristol rovers, to believe Bristol rovers will be in the prem challenging man u and Chelsea is a dream far away sometimes you just have to live for today and build slowly but if the judge is on our side I will be the happiest man in Bristol if not lets do a careful build of the mem and get to our dream a little slower plan B. good luck on plan A BRFC.PS look at Bournemouth?. When the plans for the UWE were announced it didn't appear to be very expensive for the club, as the plan was to sell the Mem for £30m and build the UWE whilst paying off most of the Directors loans. Unfortunately time & Trash/Sainsbury's have now made it look an expensive propostion but with Lansdown developing AG if were not careful we could become like Port Vale, who are now firmly in Stoke's shadow, if we don't get a new ground soon. Did we ever factor in any delays. Not like these projects sail through. Some of us never thought it truly added up. Maybe it did in a perfect world where there were no snags, but what was the margain of error
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Post by Topper Gas on May 30, 2015 15:45:36 GMT
If we did factor in delays I assume that was taken care of by the Directors loans which must have amounted to £3m to £5m?
Whilst some of didn't think the figures added up none of us thought Sainsbury's were prepared to pay £30m for the Mem, which probably only had an open market value of around £10m. Although perhaps Sainsbury's never really intended paying anything for the Mem!!
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Post by Dr Gas on May 30, 2015 18:07:31 GMT
I am thinking that delays were factored in, especially considering NH's knowledge of building procedures. However, I do not think that they would have for one second thought that Stainsbury's would renege on the deal thereby causing extra delays.
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