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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 8:09:14 GMT
I see that Tony Blair is stepping down as the World's Middle East Peace Envoy.
I'm worried now that things may just kick-off over there.
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Post by inee on May 28, 2015 12:51:47 GMT
Personally never understood why he was given the job, To put a war criminal into a peace envoy role in the area he devastated was a very strange thing to do.
The thing that gets me the most nobby is that isis are being allowed by the west to carry on, i cant work out why or what benefit it has to the west, as lets be honest they arn't exactly hiding and could be found and targeted very easily, it really is the strangest chapter yet
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Post by pirateman on May 28, 2015 19:59:20 GMT
Personally never understood why he was given the job, To put a war criminal into a peace envoy role in the area he devastated was a very strange thing to do. The thing that gets me the most nobby is that isis are being allowed by the west to carry on, i cant work out why or what benefit it has to the west, as lets be honest they arn't exactly hiding and could be found and targeted very easily, it really is the strangest chapter yet To be honest Inee I kind of agree about isis but it seems to me that every time we interfere in the middle east it ends up even more fecked up than before. Like you, I was astonished to see Blair as a middle east peace envoy, even though I am a labour supporter. Strange world is politics. Jobs for the boys and all that.
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Post by inee on May 28, 2015 22:35:06 GMT
yup pirateman indeed (please dont confuse me for a bleeding heart, i detest all religions) , i've said many times what right does anyone have to interfere in other countries, they have their way of running them ,we have ours, if you look from outside the box so to say, we try and impose our views on them, they try to impose their views on us, the only thing we have achieved is the murder of our own troops by successive governments , the last military action by the uk i believe was just was the defence of the falklands. I'm not anti war , i'm anti anything that destroys our heroes for nothing other than the will of a politician when there was no real threat to us.
You think we would have learnt from history, granted we are one of the only countries who have historically won a major victory in Afghanistan but we didn't win the war, Again if the russians had to withdraw from afghanistan, why the hell did we think we could do anything over there (after all the russians arn't afraid to fight properly in war) , any war that involves religion, can never be won using modern tactics and morals as the enemy will do whatever they can to win. In simple term( not aimed at you) , it's the same as me keep trying to fight someone who always wins a fight against me , stupidity of the highest order. the west have a bad modern record, of destroying countries , Anyone could see when the berlin wall came down that the whole of the eastern bloc would descend into chaos and become much more dangerous than it already was.
Another thing i found strange about afghanistan was brown , not allowing the yanks to destroy the poppy harvest as it would mean the farmers would not have any money to live on, one of the strangest things i ever heard, i firmly believe it was done to allow the continued supply of drugs in the world, as lets face it the more addicts around the easier it is to sway the majority of people into crusading against drugs (ever wondered why these days you only seem to see cannabis seizures , and hardly any siezures of heroin or coke, when turn the clock back and hard drugs were regularly seized and in large quantities) , whilst sneaking things in through the back door.
I have absolutely no love for labour, but the strangest thing for me was the fact that blair did so much damage to the world under the labour banner, just wish i could see what the bigger picture was i really do, but i just can't , it's something more than oil or gas.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 6:16:23 GMT
ISIS is coming, and it's coming to Europe. One day we will have to face them, and fight them. The longer we wait, the more difficult it will become.
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Post by supergas on May 29, 2015 8:20:22 GMT
I have absolutely no love for labour, but the strangest thing for me was the fact that blair did so much damage to the world under the labour banner Trouble is, Blair wasn't a Labour politician. He was a centre (mostly) left (to win votes) politician. The reason he caused so much damage is one left-wing tendency he did have was to legislate to much here and interfere too much there. History proves that the governments who history judges 'most successful' are those who 'interfere the least' - with notable exceptions for things like winning WW2.
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Post by inee on May 29, 2015 9:06:50 GMT
ISIS is coming, and it's coming to Europe. One day we will have to face them, and fight them. The longer we wait, the more difficult it will become. They are already here , and will continue to grow in the rest of europe . A lot of people just don't believe that they are here already waiting, just wish people would open their eyes
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Post by supergas on Jun 5, 2015 9:56:00 GMT
ISIS is coming, and it's coming to Europe. One day we will have to face them, and fight them. The longer we wait, the more difficult it will become. They are already here , and will continue to grow in the rest of europe . A lot of people just don't believe that they are here already waiting, just wish people would open their eyes Thing is, people in general don't need to...they just need to allow the relevant security services to do their jobs. Sadly we're now in a place where they're seemingly not allowed to...
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