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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 11, 2015 13:16:26 GMT
There are endless potential reasons why he isn't playing league football, your words, yet you didn't come out with a single reason why he isn't playing league football other than mine that he isn't good enough. You want me to sit here and type out all the potential reasons for him not playing league football? If you can't see that ability isn't the only factor in whether or not a player plays at any given level then there's literally no point in me trying to have this conversation with you. If you stop being so deliberately contrary and concede that "he isn't good enough" isn't the only reason footballers don't make the grade then, yes, I will list you some of the other reasons if you like. The irony is that his opinion is that he IS good enough! So why he is debating against you is beyond me!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 13:24:05 GMT
You want me to sit here and type out all the potential reasons for him not playing league football? If you can't see that ability isn't the only factor in whether or not a player plays at any given level then there's literally no point in me trying to have this conversation with you. If you stop being so deliberately contrary and concede that "he isn't good enough" isn't the only reason footballers don't make the grade then, yes, I will list you some of the other reasons if you like. The irony is that his opinion is that he IS good enough! So why he is debating against you is beyond me! Yes, MY OPINION!!! Am I not allowed to have an opionion? I'm not a football league manager, neither are you, there Lies the problem that you can't see, or you can but don't want to? If he is good enough he would be playing league football, but he's not! FACT!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 13:25:56 GMT
Because every football club has the same budget and same amount of players earning the same wage? No, but Kidderminster were supposed to be skint and both them and Tranmere are non leagues clubs. I'll be amazed if we can't comepete financially with them so there must be more to it IMO. I'm sure DC said at the Q&A it was a case of him wanting 'proven League quality' wasn't it? Rather than money being the issue. Not sure we've truly found that yet, but I think Montano etc. have suffered from the formation change to 3-5-2.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 11, 2015 13:28:01 GMT
No, but Kidderminster were supposed to be skint and both them and Tranmere are non leagues clubs. I'll be amazed if we can't comepete financially with them so there must be more to it IMO. I'm sure DC said at the Q&A it was a case of him wanting 'proven League quality' wasn't it? Rather than money being the issue. Not sure we've truly found that yet, but I think Montano etc. have suffered from the formation change to 3-5-2. I was at the q & a but can't remember to be honwst. I thought it was a money issue.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 11, 2015 13:30:48 GMT
The irony is that his opinion is that he IS good enough! So why he is debating against you is beyond me! Yes, MY OPINION!!! Am I not allowed to have an opionion? I'm not a football league manager, neither are you, there Lies the problem that you can't see, or you can but don't want to? If he is good enough he would be playing league football, but he's not! FACT! Of course you are entitled to an opinion but it I find it I find it strange that you have an opinion but are arguing against that opinion!
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Post by wiaww on Sept 11, 2015 13:38:09 GMT
The irony is that his opinion is that he IS good enough! So why he is debating against you is beyond me! Yes, MY OPINION!!! Am I not allowed to have an opionion? I'm not a football league manager, neither are you, there Lies the problem that you can't see, or you can but don't want to? If he is good enough he would be playing league football, but he's not! FACT! Of course you are entitled to an opinion but this is truly baffling stuff. Just to confirm, are you maintaining that; a) the only deciding factor in whether or not a footballer plays at a certain level is their ability b) the only people capable of making the judgement as to whether or not an individual is "good enough" are the current 72 Football League and 20 Premier League managers? Because the above is what you have said in your last few posts, whether you realise that or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 13:39:18 GMT
Yes, MY OPINION!!! Am I not allowed to have an opionion? I'm not a football league manager, neither are you, there Lies the problem that you can't see, or you can but don't want to? If he is good enough he would be playing league football, but he's not! FACT! Of course you are entitled to an opinion but it I find it I find it strange that you have an opinion but are arguing against that opinion! What's strange? I think someone better qualified than I knows better what their doing compared to you or I. How many football related qualifications have you got? How many have football managers got? If he's good enough why has he just gone onloan from a non-league club to another non-league club? Surly if he's good enough he would have went to a league club? Also what's he doing at a non-league club anyway?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2015 13:52:28 GMT
No, but Kidderminster were supposed to be skint and both them and Tranmere are non leagues clubs. I'll be amazed if we can't comepete financially with them so there must be more to it IMO. I'm sure DC said at the Q&A it was a case of him wanting 'proven League quality' wasn't it? Rather than money being the issue. Not sure we've truly found that yet, but I think Montano etc. have suffered from the formation change to 3-5-2. Surely M & M being so poor on the wings forced DC into trying 5-3-2, not sure where you get 3-5-2 from, as DC played 4-4-2 until the Northampton defeat. Leadbitter seems to show a non-league FB/WB is far more effective than two wingers with league experience. As far as signing players with league experience the signing of Clarke doesn't support that, and Chapman hardly has vast league experince, anyway if clubs never took a chance with non-eague players then the likes of Charlie Austin would still be playing non-league football.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Sept 11, 2015 14:05:57 GMT
Of course you are entitled to an opinion but it I find it I find it strange that you have an opinion but are arguing against that opinion! What's strange? I think someone better qualified than I knows better what their doing compared to you or I. How many football related qualifications have you got? How many have football managers got? If he's good enough why has he just gone onloan from a non-league club to another non-league club? Surly if he's good enough he would have went to a league club? Also what's he doing at a non-league club anyway? What would be the point of interacting on a message board/forum if we took this quite literally... We all suddenly become qualified managers, chairmen, and referee's when we debate on the forum .. We just don't carry the qualifications.. It's a light hearted discussion fella.. Chill out
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 14:15:10 GMT
What's strange? I think someone better qualified than I knows better what their doing compared to you or I. How many football related qualifications have you got? How many have football managers got? If he's good enough why has he just gone onloan from a non-league club to another non-league club? Surly if he's good enough he would have went to a league club? Also what's he doing at a non-league club anyway? What would be the point of interacting on a message board/forum if we took this quite literally... We all suddenly become qualified managers, chairmen, and referee's when we debate on the forum .. We just don't carry the qualifications.. It's a light hearted discussion fella.. Chill out I know its a light hearted discussion fella, I'm just giving my view on said discussion. As you say its a board/forum, wouldn't it be sad if we all had the same opinion on the board/forum fella?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 14:23:57 GMT
I'm sure DC said at the Q&A it was a case of him wanting 'proven League quality' wasn't it? Rather than money being the issue. Not sure we've truly found that yet, but I think Montano etc. have suffered from the formation change to 3-5-2. Surely M & M being so poor on the wings forced DC into trying 5-3-2, not sure where you get 3-5-2 from, as DC played 4-4-2 until the Northampton defeat. Leadbitter seems to show a non-league FB/WB is far more effective than two wingers with league experience. As far as signing players with league experience the signing of Clarke doesn't support that, and Chapman hardly has vast league experince, anyway if clubs never took a chance with non-eague players then the likes of Charlie Austin would still be playing non-league football. 3-5-2 and 5-3-2 is the same thing really, we both mean the same formation. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't sign non-league players, far from it, I'm merely repeating what (if I recall correctly) DC said at the Q&A with regards to Dawson specifically.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Sept 11, 2015 14:44:50 GMT
What would be the point of interacting on a message board/forum if we took this quite literally... We all suddenly become qualified managers, chairmen, and referee's when we debate on the forum .. We just don't carry the qualifications.. It's a light hearted discussion fella.. Chill out I know its a light hearted discussion fella, I'm just giving my view on said discussion. As you say its a board/forum, wouldn't it be sad if we all had the same opinion on the board/forum fella? Which is why the old saying "opinions are like arse holes, ever body's got one" rings true... It wasn't an attack on you personally, merely an observation. You're right though,it's good to have an opinion..
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Post by ilysagas on Sept 11, 2015 17:22:46 GMT
Blimey. How long can this debate continue.
Dawson wore gloves when we played at Gateshead last year. He was the only one. For me that would merit not signing him. End of.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 11, 2015 18:20:14 GMT
Blimey. How long can this debate continue. Dawson wore gloves when we played at Gateshead last year. He was the only one. For me that would merit not signing him. End of. UTG Henry wore gloves, you saying you wouldn't have signed him because he wore gloves?
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Post by socrates on Sept 11, 2015 19:26:06 GMT
Dawson could wear pink tights for all I care id still have him back he's got more talent than the two wingers we've brought in put together from what I've seen so far.
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Post by lincsblue on Sept 11, 2015 19:31:24 GMT
Ha, he had an excuse.........he was French
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