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Post by gasfred on Jul 22, 2015 11:36:16 GMT
Will anyone be joining me by booing his every touch if this petulent little s**t plays in the Kitey game.
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Post by britishgas on Jul 22, 2015 11:41:37 GMT
He's fully entitled to turn his back on the flag. The IRA did some nasty s*** but the British Army didn't come out of it smelling like roses either. I don't like this Americanesque witchunting of anyone who doesn't pretend to be a patriot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 11:43:22 GMT
He's fully entitled to turn his back on the flag. The IRA did some nasty s*** but the British Army didn't come out of it smelling like roses either. I don't like this Anericanesque witchunting of anyone who doesn't pretend to be a patriot. Surely that is being patriotic... in his view. |
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Post by britishgas on Jul 22, 2015 11:45:18 GMT
He's fully entitled to turn his back on the flag. The IRA did some nasty s*** but the British Army didn't come out of it smelling like roses either. I don't like this Anericanesque witchunting of anyone who doesn't pretend to be a patriot. Surely that is being patriotic... in his view. nothing wrong with patriotism itself. What I meant was expecting everyone to love England unreservedly. |
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Post by philbemmygas on Jul 22, 2015 11:54:58 GMT
He's fully entitled to turn his back on the flag. The IRA did some nasty s*** but the British Army didn't come out of it smelling like roses either. I don't like this Americanesque witchunting of anyone who doesn't pretend to be a patriot. I take a modicum of displeasure with your remark about the British Army. Some of the provocation that I and others who served over there were subjected to deserve to be taken into account before you throw a comment like that over the wall. |
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Post by Gashead73 on Jul 22, 2015 11:56:50 GMT
I am an ex serving member of the Royal Navy, I am of Anglo-Irish bloodlines & I am proud to be both English and Irish' although of English birth but in regards to this debate I' personally do not recognise the Union Flag.....
My reasons being that I have no Welsh or Scottish ancestry, my flag firstly is a White flag with a Red Cross of St George showing on it.
If you think im mad then so be it' I could not give a sh1te!!!
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Post by phillistine on Jul 22, 2015 12:01:48 GMT
Will anyone be joining me by booing his every touch if this petulent little s**t plays in the Kitey game. i think that you are going to get very hoarse by the end of the game . Id take some fishermen's friends with you . |
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Post by long john silver on Jul 22, 2015 12:08:30 GMT
Will anyone be joining me by booing his every touch if this petulent little s**t plays in the Kitey game. No , you would just be giving him the attention he is seeking . |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 22, 2015 12:30:07 GMT
storm in a tea cup.
why would anyone expect him to be interested in the flag / anthem??? It's crazy to expect him to.
I'm English, have briefly served in the forces, my grandfather was a regular in RAF, and my father was almost killed in Cyprus during National Sevice, but I wouldn't have any interest in any type of flag or national anthem.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jul 22, 2015 12:37:54 GMT
Football and politics are not a good mix. I believe in freedom of speech. If Mcclean wants to turn his back on the National flag then so be it.
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Post by LJG on Jul 22, 2015 12:50:17 GMT
I don't get the big deal? It's not his national flag and not his national anthem.
Would we have expected Becks to sing Le Marseillaise when he was at Paris St Germain? Imagine the tabloid whirlwind if he had!
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Post by olskooltoteender on Jul 22, 2015 12:58:59 GMT
He's fully entitled to turn his back on the flag. The IRA did some nasty s*** but the British Army didn't come out of it smelling like roses either. I don't like this Americanesque witchunting of anyone who doesn't pretend to be a patriot. I take a modicum of displeasure with your remark about the British Army. Some of the provocation that I and others who served over there were subjected to deserve to be taken into account before you throw a comment like that over the wall. I think provocation is putting it lightly Phil . . . |
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Post by onion on Jul 22, 2015 13:00:41 GMT
Why do all media say he turned his back to it? He just didn't turn toward it. Not a big deal.
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Post by britishgas on Jul 22, 2015 13:01:43 GMT
He's fully entitled to turn his back on the flag. The IRA did some nasty s*** but the British Army didn't come out of it smelling like roses either. I don't like this Americanesque witchunting of anyone who doesn't pretend to be a patriot. I take a modicum of displeasure with your remark about the British Army. Some of the provocation that I and others who served over there were subjected to deserve to be taken into account before you throw a comment like that over the wall. Yeah, of course, I'm not saying that it was unprovoked. However, historians will rightly look at the troubles and conclude that both sides committed evil - in the case of the British Army, they'll refer to Bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy and Springhill. Turning his back and not wearing a poppy is McClean's way of remembering the dead. I might not agree with it, but I respect his decision and acknowledge his freedom to do so. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 22, 2015 13:19:21 GMT
BTW what has this got to do with BRFC or certainly this section of a BRFC forum?
He's not even played here yet... and may not.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 22, 2015 13:22:02 GMT
I don't get the big deal? It's not his national flag and not his national anthem. Would we have expected Becks to sing Le Marseillaise when he was at Paris St Germain? Imagine the tabloid whirlwind if he had! yes, bizarre isn't it. I looked up 'knee jerk' in the dictionary and it said "some of this thread"  |
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Post by jonjames on Jul 22, 2015 13:22:58 GMT
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Post by Centenary Gas on Jul 22, 2015 13:34:26 GMT
Will anyone be joining me by booing his every touch if this petulent little s**t plays in the Kitey game. Why does this even bother you? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 13:39:29 GMT
Think it should be remembered this game is for big PK. Probably best to leave the politics to Paxman, Johnson, Cameron et al. Boy this country is in good hands!
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Post by TopperJR on Jul 22, 2015 13:44:44 GMT
In an odd way the guy is actually commendable. In an age when footballers are increasingly being known as overpaid, thick, occasionally criminal primadonnas...it's kind of nice to see one who actually believes in something enough to risk his reputation by standing up for it.
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