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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 13:38:54 GMT
The answer is so bloody obvious ! hasn't anyone in government seen Zulu? Three ranks, volley fire by rank, and they'll soon stop it. Job sorted.
Illegal Migrants crossing the Med - Don't pick them up and drop them in Italy. That is just acting like a Ferry company and encouraging the illegal migrants even more. Pick them up, and drop them back from where they came. Word will soon get around that it's pointless attempting the crossing. If, as claimed, they are paying 5,000 Euro to the people smugglers, then why don't they just get on a plane and save themselves a shedload of money? Job sorted.
PS - Genghis Khan was a lilly-livered left-winger.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 15:18:58 GMT
Eurostar was fully booked today.....
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Post by inee on Jul 30, 2015 20:24:45 GMT
easier way, open the chunnel, at the frog side, blow it up 1/3 of the way in, job done ,food for the fishes and the end of the tunnel
Easiest way is to follow the eu rules and for the frogs to send , all immigrants back to where the first entered euroupe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 21:04:46 GMT
This is a total pish take.Every single day we get coverage of these feckers breaking in to lorries,their not exactly being covert are they.Get the message through loud and clear that EVERY lorry will be inspected and whoever they discover is on the next ferry back.Saw on the news early where someone went under cover to find out how some of these people booked their journey to Britain.4,5 or 9k in euros was the going rate yet we're still supposed to class them as refugees! Probably paid via Amex platinum card.And to finish the report one person was reported to have made it across,and they were being cared for by the local council! Get yourselves over here pronto everyone,France is obviously no better than a 3 rd world country with zero chance of making a better life,so get yourselves out of that shithole as all are welcome,message received loud and clear,were on our way.
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Post by inee on Jul 31, 2015 9:35:02 GMT
was watching one of those ross kemp extreme world programmes, where he was in frogland, he was showing how some got into vehicles, some get onto the trailer roof, cut a hole to get in then stitch it back up, but still the drivers get fined. Was also mentioned on the program that life was easier for immigrants than it is over here but still they come, the quicker we crack down the word will spread and less will try.
Heres a way to sort it, put em in the old abandoned military camps, women stay back and ,cook ,clean and decorate, men are picked up and do pothole filling, or other community tasks, that will allow them food (not cash but delivered food to the camp). those who try to get out of the work, send em back no excuses, those who whine send em back. Those who work at it for a year or more and learn english and generally are gratefull to be here, allow them to work, after 2 years give em a visa. that will sort the genuine from the freeloaders, and before someone says oh thats sexist, just remember in the cultures they coe from it traditional for the woman to do cooking etc and also for the men to bring home the food. I thought lorries had security tags on the trailers, if they still do then surely customs will see it. A company in bristol designs lorry sized X-ray machines, all you need is one in each vehicle lane at dover, every vehicle goes through. so many less will get in, simple solution
What made me pish myself laughing was all the do gooders over here ,cameron said they were swarming, in my opinion the correct use of english, idiots where then whining that it devalues them, my message to the dogooders is simple , they cant Dam hear him they are in frogland, and if 2k or more gashead were walking to a game and the news said oh there was a swarm of fans walking along, who the feck would be truely upset.
Force the do gooders to pay 30% of their income to a slush fund to feed thenm in france and for the life of one refugee they will have to adopt, bet they would soon stfu
Was watching a thing on Libya , a few people said they paid $10k for the boat ride, $10k feck i would love $10k they would also be quite well off with that amount in their own countries
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Post by baggins on Jul 31, 2015 10:14:53 GMT
Anyone familiar with the Directors Cut of Aliens where they had those massive electric gatling guns that opened fire on anything that moved? Few of them located half way should end all of this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 15:07:13 GMT
Or, we send the Army into Calais, then once the French have surrendered (again) we can sort it out !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 17:38:28 GMT
ComPASHUN!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 18:17:13 GMT
Hugo, look up sympathy in the dictionary. You'll find it between syphilis and sh** !
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Post by inee on Jul 31, 2015 21:35:38 GMT
for what exactly, oh yeah, ;et em all in give em homes, medical care , benefits etc, Oh yeah and screw everyone born n bred over yer, There are too many people from this country forced to live on the streets, too many old un's who have worked and retired but live in poverty, loads of ex servicemen and women homeless, yeah screw em all but hell lets sympathise with immagrants who have paid through the nose to get here, we need to sort our own out before others
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Post by inee on Jul 31, 2015 21:37:23 GMT
Anyone familiar with the Directors Cut of Aliens where they had those massive electric gatling guns that opened fire on anything that moved? Few of them located half way should end all of this. Ohh even better train the usaf in their A10's over calais , love the gun on that thing,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 5:54:19 GMT
The problem is some of them are genuine refugees and some are parentless children.
To say brick up the tunnel or shoot them all is doing humanity a great disservice.
I'm not suggesting letting everyone in and handing out benefits but we have to be part of finding a solution for what to do with these people and what can be done in to make their homes safe so that we can stop people leaving their home lands in the first place.
We can't just ignore it and hope it goes away.
These are human beings.
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Post by aghast on Aug 1, 2015 20:49:32 GMT
For some reason, normal reasonable human beings on a football forum turn into maniac right wing loonies when commenting on politics.
Or perhaps maniac right wing loonies turn into normal human beings when commenting on a football forum.
It'th a mythtewy, as Toyah Wilcox once sang.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 18:12:08 GMT
It's a bad situation that these people are so desperate that they are risking their lives to search for a better one. The guys on the jumbo jet from SA was an example of the lengths desperate people will go to. Some of the suggestions on here are not very pleasant at all. Who wouldn't do anything they could in order to put food on the table for your hungry children? Or attempt to find a better life if all you are faced with is extreme poverty with zero opportunity?
I'm not sure what the answers are but there will be millions of people trying to get here and the leaders seem baffled. The situation is reciprocated in other parts of the world too. Not nice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 6:38:56 GMT
"I'm not sure what the answers are but there will be millions of people trying to get here" - Do you honestly think that the UK is prepared to accept millions of people from Africa and the Middle East? Do we have enough houses? Can the NHS cope? What about crime? Do we have enough jobs? Are the workers prepared to pay more in tax than they already do to support the expanded Welfare State? Are people prepared to accept the 'ghetto' situations that will develop in our cities, even more than those that already exist?
The answer is no.
This same issue is a hot topic in Germany as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 9:51:17 GMT
All of those things do nothing to prevent the people trying to get here Nobby. There is no argument about what the UK can tolerate, not debating that. But they will continue to try and get here, there are loads already here calling home to say it's all good!
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Post by inee on Aug 3, 2015 9:54:56 GMT
can only add to nobby's post. They can settle in france, so if they were genuine they would take safe harbour wherever they landed, but not many do, which suggests that the majority still think we are a soft touch, the other thing is if someone uses the old chestnut i can't go home i will be killed then their history really needs checking fully, as there are several cases in which people have been given either full or temporary asylum, and their past has came to light where they have been working as torturer , liquidators and have come over here, another thing with this is many claim based on the current regimes in their countries, but then never go back when the country is again stable.
Again there are people born and bred here who live in poverty, who live on the streets so lets help those first. A lot of the problems are caused by charities and do gooders trying to foist our way of life on these poor countries, ask yourselves a question when you give to comic relief do you really understand what you are doing, when you buy fair trade goods do you know the real damage it causes to a countries poor, or do you as most do ,just do it because everyone else does it and you either don't want people to think you don't care or you think it's the right thing to do whilst turning up your noses at the homeless in this country???
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Post by supergas on Aug 3, 2015 22:04:47 GMT
Let's cut to the chase, it's all the French/EU's fault. The rules are simple, migrants/asylum seekers have a "right to remain BUT must be “processed” in the country where they first arrived". But Italy, Malta and Greece are quite happy to move them on and France is quite happy to let them camp a few miles from Calais so they can easily attack British lorries queueing to cross the Channel (and heaven forbid the French police try to stop them, let alone arrest them.
I feel a sense of sympathy for the refugees. I also feel France and the EU should do things like comply with treaties and arrest people causing criminal damage....but that seems too much to ask...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 6:00:27 GMT
First off, they are not refugees. The term refugees suggests people fleeing from a war-zone that are looking for somewhere safe. International Law (Dublin Agreement) dictates that this is the first safe country they reach. The people at Calais are Economic Migrants, not refugees. They have passed through at least two safe countries, and they still want to get to the UK. As Economic Migrants, what skills do they have to offer the UK to help with the Economy?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 11:18:57 GMT
Just to add some perspective to this debate,in 2014 Germany took in more than 5 times the number of asylum seekers than the UK and France twice as many.The vast majority of refugees and asylum seekers do not head towards our shores.
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