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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 26, 2015 5:51:15 GMT
There is an existing supporters group called Bristol Rovers Supporters Club with in excess of 1,800 members. Do they honestly have any influence in the club though?
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Aug 26, 2015 7:18:37 GMT
There is an existing supporters group called Bristol Rovers Supporters Club with in excess of 1,800 members. Do they honestly have any influence in the club though? Honestly - Yes Rich! Never as much as anyone would want but yes they do influence things I'm a member of The Supporters Club and i consider it £10 well spent UTG
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 11:36:33 GMT
Do they honestly have any influence in the club though? Honestly - Yes Rich! Never as much as anyone would want but yes they do influence things I'm a member of The Supporters Club and i consider it £10 well spent UTG I would love to be informed of anything concrete the SC has achieved through their "influence"? Just one example, anything.
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 26, 2015 12:01:11 GMT
There is an existing supporters group called Bristol Rovers Supporters Club with in excess of 1,800 members. Amongst our group there are SC members. What they and I think is that the SC directors are unable or unwilling to present fans' concerns to the board and also are incapable of projecting a critical stance that may/does reflect the concerns of big numbers of Gasheads. Basically they are too close to the Board, particularly Masters. This is an alternative / a fresh start. We are reaching out to you guys, the club desperately needs it !! The SC is a democratic organisation. If you don't agree with those currently elected into positions, stand as an alternative. You don't need more than one supporters organisation, that causes divide and confusion.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 26, 2015 13:01:03 GMT
There is an existing supporters group called Bristol Rovers Supporters Club with in excess of 1,800 members. Amongst our group there are SC members. What they and I think is that the SC directors are unable or unwilling to present fans' concerns to the board and also are incapable of projecting a critical stance that may/does reflect the concerns of big numbers of Gasheads. Basically they are too close to the Board, particularly Masters. This is an alternative / a fresh start. We are reaching out to you guys, the club desperately needs it !! "the club desperately needs it" 4th in the table and playing in front of 7,000 plus gates seems to contradict that statement? Ken Master's term is surely coming to end shortly why not stand against him?
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Post by peterparker on Aug 26, 2015 13:26:15 GMT
Amongst our group there are SC members. What they and I think is that the SC directors are unable or unwilling to present fans' concerns to the board and also are incapable of projecting a critical stance that may/does reflect the concerns of big numbers of Gasheads. Basically they are too close to the Board, particularly Masters. This is an alternative / a fresh start. We are reaching out to you guys, the club desperately needs it !! "the club desperately needs it" 4th in the table and playing in front of 7,000 plus gates seems to contradict that statement? Ken Master's term is surely coming to end shortly why not stand against him? The team is doing ok? Not sure about the longer term health of the club
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Post by Dr Gas on Aug 26, 2015 13:30:08 GMT
Amongst our group there are SC members. What they and I think is that the SC directors are unable or unwilling to present fans' concerns to the board and also are incapable of projecting a critical stance that may/does reflect the concerns of big numbers of Gasheads. Basically they are too close to the Board, particularly Masters. This is an alternative / a fresh start. We are reaching out to you guys, the club desperately needs it !! "the club desperately needs it" 4th in the table and playing in front of 7,000 plus gates seems to contradict that statement? Ken Master's term is surely coming to end shortly why not stand against him? Your second point is spot on.
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Post by simon1883 on Aug 26, 2015 15:27:54 GMT
Bournemouth and Portsmouth were owned by fans but they eventually sold out to people with money,because they didn't have the financial backing to support their ideas.Good in theory but not in practice Portsmouth FC is owned by Pompey Supporters Trust. They took over the Club on the 9th April 2013. On the 29 September 2014 they announced that the club was debt-free, having paid back its creditors and legacy payments to ex-players. The Pompey Supporters Trust is a democratic, not-for-profit organisation of supporters, committed to strengthening the voice for supporters in the decision making process at the club, and strengthening the links between the club and the community it serves. Our Mission is "to successfully develop the model of a professional football club that is owned by it supporters and central to the community in which it operates". Good in theory and practice. When you buy a club/business for a fraction of its true value.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 26, 2015 15:37:04 GMT
How the hell did they pay off all those wages, it was millions ? Something is not true, either the wages were inflated or the debt still exists?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 16:44:57 GMT
How the hell did they pay off all those wages, it was millions ? Something is not true, either the wages were inflated or the debt still exists? I think from memory they paid back something like 8p in the pound. A few clubs have done this, IMO its wrong, but that's the rules we all adhere to.
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Post by gasincider on Aug 26, 2015 21:53:33 GMT
As I understand it, the Football League insist on all football debts being paid in full. So if they paid off 8p in the £ I think Portsmouth would now be plying their trade looking forward to a derby with Eastleigh.
Having now read a little about it, they reached agreement at 20p in the £ to cover football debts which was AGREED by all interested parties, but only cleared £7m of approx £35m in total
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 14:01:38 GMT
"the club desperately needs it" 4th in the table and playing in front of 7,000 plus gates seems to contradict that statement? Ken Master's term is surely coming to end shortly why not stand against him? The team is doing ok? Not sure about the longer term health of the club Simon if you think that anyone albeit the official SC or the supporters trust can have any influence without cash then I think you should stand for election when KM stint comes to an end
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 14:03:34 GMT
Portsmouth FC is owned by Pompey Supporters Trust. They took over the Club on the 9th April 2013. On the 29 September 2014 they announced that the club was debt-free, having paid back its creditors and legacy payments to ex-players. The Pompey Supporters Trust is a democratic, not-for-profit organisation of supporters, committed to strengthening the voice for supporters in the decision making process at the club, and strengthening the links between the club and the community it serves. Our Mission is "to successfully develop the model of a professional football club that is owned by it supporters and central to the community in which it operates". Good in theory and practice. When you buy a club/business for a fraction of its true value. And the supporters trust sold out to a Russian,hence the sudden improvement in their finances and on field performances.In football money talks
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Post by simon1883 on Aug 27, 2015 17:19:38 GMT
Give me rovers for 8p in the £ and even I could make a difference !
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Post by peterparker on Aug 27, 2015 20:21:50 GMT
The team is doing ok? Not sure about the longer term health of the club Simon if you think that anyone albeit the official SC or the supporters trust can have any influence without cash then I think you should stand for election when KM stint comes to an end The SC has given the club a million quid via the share scheme plus lord knows what else. Not sure that has brought any significant influence anyway short of bailing the board out over the years. I might have got involved if I was still single and wasnt thinking of other things that might take up my time. I will question the club where i see fit as my right as a paying supporter, but I no longer have the time or energy to get stuck in the bullshit and butting heads that getting involved would involve.
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Post by markczgas on Aug 28, 2015 19:50:54 GMT
Simon if you think that anyone albeit the official SC or the supporters trust can have any influence without cash then I think you should stand for election when KM stint comes to an end The SC has given the club a million quid via the share scheme plus lord knows what else. Not sure that has brought any significant influence anyway short of bailing the board out over the years. I might have got involved if I was still single and wasnt thinking of other things that might take up my time. I will question the club where i see fit as my right as a paying supporter, but I no longer have the time or energy to get stuck in the bullshit and butting heads that getting involved would involve. I think many will know what you mean - that's a shame - if we can get a good number to get involved then we can share the load.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 13:52:16 GMT
That's the point I was trying to make,without substantial funds you have no chance of influencing the club.This isn't a peculiarity just at Rovers you see it all over the country,even in the premier where fans of clubs as big as Everton and Arsenal are in the same boat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 0:22:10 GMT
There is an existing supporters group called Bristol Rovers Supporters Club with in excess of 1,800 members. Wow, has it really lost 50% of its membership over the last 10 years?
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Post by dragonfly on Sept 1, 2015 9:06:18 GMT
If enough of us join the SC and bring the membership up to 4000 or more then we could seek change through the voting system, electing those who seek a different relationship with the FC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 9:25:09 GMT
If enough of us join the SC and bring the membership up to 4000 or more then we could seek change through the voting system, electing those who seek a different relationship with the FC. Spot on. I'm not a member of the SC but would join to support a new candidate I like BSS.
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