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Post by WeAreTheGas on Sept 13, 2015 11:59:23 GMT
______________Nicholls
Lockyer____Clarke____Parkes__Brown
____________Lines___Clarke
____Gosling_____Bodin____Montano
_______________Easter
That's what I'd play v Argyle.
IMO Bodin and Gosling are two of the most creative players we have, and atm creating chances is a big problem for us - but neither are suited to being traditional wingers in a 4-4-2.
I know playing one striker isn't everyone's cup of tea, but we can't play 3-5-2 effectively without Leadbitter (or a replacement), and in this system you'd have the 3 behind Easter playing close to him and offering him support.
We've seen that Easter is very good at holding the ball up, but we're not getting players close enough to our strikers to make use of that.
Yesterday we had a team full of 'workers' that was lacking in technique. Mansell and O.Clarke are much of a muchness and aren't both needed in a 3 man midfield if we want to play through midfield rather than resort to lumping it long.
We're going through games atm barely troubling the opposition GK, so we could hardly create any less playing like this. Argyle will score against us IMO, so if we have 0 or 1 shot on target then we'll lose. Try something different.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 12:59:51 GMT
Think a midfield duo of Lines and Clarke would get overrun. Right thinking and formation though to get some creativity out of the side.
Plymouth create a lot but have also given away a lot of chances to the opposition in recent games. Pompey exposed their full-backs well and that could be a model for us to follow. Argyle use a 4-2-3-1 formation typically I believe, with two holding midfielders and Carey doing well in behind the striker Reid.
Frustratingly, if Leadbitter was around I think 3-5-2 would be more than enough to match their holding midfielders, nullify Carey and take advantage on the wings. You could say that for the last 3 games though. So I'd go 4-2-3-1 to match Argyle.
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Lockyer-----Clarke----Parkes-----Brown
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Gosling------------Lines----------Montano
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SUBS: Mildy, Kilgour, Lyttle, Clarke, Bodin, Taylor, Easter
Having said all this, I'm not expecting too much and wait Leadbitter's return vs Pompey to switch back to 3-5-2.
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Post by socrates on Sept 13, 2015 13:08:39 GMT
______________Nicholls Lockyer____Clarke____Parkes__Brown ____________Lines___Clarke ____Gosling_____Bodin____Montano _______________Easter That's what I'd play v Argyle. IMO Bodin and Gosling are two of the most creative players we have, and atm creating chances is a big problem for us - but neither are suited to being traditional wingers in a 4-4-2. I know playing one striker isn't everyone's cup of tea, but we can't play 3-5-2 effectively without Leadbitter (or a replacement), and in this system you'd have the 3 behind Easter playing close to him and offering him support. We've seen that Easter is very good at holding the ball up, but we're not getting players close enough to our strikers to make use of that. Yesterday we had a team full of 'workers' that was lacking in technique. Mansell and O.Clarke are much of a muchness and aren't both needed in a 3 man midfield if we want to play through midfield rather than resort to lumping it long. We're going through games atm barely troubling the opposition GK, so we could hardly create any less playing like this. Argyle will score against us IMO, so if we have 0 or 1 shot on target then we'll lose. Try something different. Yeah it's worth a shot. I quite like that formation it even worked alright the season we dropped out of the league, it was changing back to 4-4-2 that put us in free fall. We need more width that's for sure, Yesterday was shocking. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2015 13:10:09 GMT
Gosling was shocking in yesterday's brief appearance and as Montano was left on the bench you can only assume DC considers he's even worse, it would be madness to start both of them at Plymouth plus 5-3-2 has been fairly effective away from home this season.
I'd go
Nicholls
Sinclair Clark Lockyer Parkes Brown
Mansell Lines Clarke
Bodin Harrison
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Sept 13, 2015 14:08:20 GMT
Think a midfield duo of Lines and Clarke would get overrun. Right thinking and formation though to get some creativity out of the side. Plymouth create a lot but have also given away a lot of chances to the opposition in recent games. Pompey exposed their full-backs well and that could be a model for us to follow. Argyle use a 4-2-3-1 formation typically I believe, with two holding midfielders and Carey doing well in behind the striker Reid. Frustratingly, if Leadbitter was around I think 3-5-2 would be more than enough to match their holding midfielders, nullify Carey and take advantage on the wings. You could say that for the last 3 games though. So I'd go 4-2-3-1 to match Argyle. -------------------Nicholls---------------- Lockyer-----Clarke----Parkes-----Brown ----------Sinclair---------Mansell--------- Gosling------------Lines----------Montano ------------------Harrison------------------ SUBS: Mildy, Kilgour, Lyttle, Clarke, Bodin, Taylor, Easter Having said all this, I'm not expecting too much and wait Leadbitter's return vs Pompey to switch back to 3-5-2. I did think that tbf. Maybe Lines-Clarke with someone like Bodin ahead would be more suited to a home game like yesterday's. Also agree with socrates that we looked good playing 4-2-3-1 in the relegation season. Getting rid of Richards killed that formation. |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 13, 2015 14:56:32 GMT
Gosling was shocking in yesterday's brief appearance and as Montano was left on the bench you can only assume DC considers he's even worse, it would be madness to start both of them at Plymouth plus 5-3-2 has been fairly effective away from home this season. Gosling was wasted on the right yesterday. Our whole team was too narrow and James Clarke wasn't being used as an attacking full-back. When Gosling did get the ball, he cut inside onto his left foot as there were no options out wide. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 13, 2015 16:23:53 GMT
If these players who DC leaves on the bench are so bloody bad in his mind then why the hell did he sign them. I still feel he will get it right but I just hope he goes a bit more attacking. As soon as a ball is cleared our back players should be moving up quickly instead of standing still leaving our midfielders to pick up players they should be picking up.Perhaps we might even spend more time in the final third instead of in our own half.
I really wish there were signs of how passionate DC is when the game is on and not just what he says to keep us happy.
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 13, 2015 16:51:33 GMT
I agree with getting Bodin involved as I thought he looked very lively when he came on yesterday.
I haven't thought much of Taylor the past few games. I'd like to see Bodin start ahead of him.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2015 17:03:36 GMT
Gosling was shocking in yesterday's brief appearance and as Montano was left on the bench you can only assume DC considers he's even worse, it would be madness to start both of them at Plymouth plus 5-3-2 has been fairly effective away from home this season. Gosling was wasted on the right yesterday. Our whole team was too narrow and James Clarke wasn't being used as an attacking full-back. When Gosling did get the ball, he cut inside onto his left foot as there were no options out wide. Gosling seemed to take Sinclair's place as RWB, if he did, then who did he expect to find outside him? |
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Post by simon1883 on Sept 14, 2015 7:56:09 GMT
If we go back to 3-5-2 both Bodin and Goslin have to be involved. Bodin has looked very lively and i thionk he'll be the pone to make stuff happen. we have become too predictable.
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Post by LJG on Sept 14, 2015 9:08:30 GMT
Gosling was shocking in yesterday's brief appearance and as Montano was left on the bench you can only assume DC considers he's even worse, it would be madness to start both of them at Plymouth plus 5-3-2 has been fairly effective away from home this season. I'd go Nicholls Sinclair Clark Lockyer Parkes Brown Mansell Lines Clarke Bodin Harrison He might not have had quite as much impact as you'd hope but he certainly wasn't shocking. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 9:20:26 GMT
Nicholls
Leadbitter Parkes Clarke Brown
sinclair lines mansell
Taylor
Bodin Harrison
I felt for along time now matt Taylor would be better in a centre attacking midfield position. He can make things happen, away at Luton showed great vision to set up Sinclair.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 14, 2015 9:24:04 GMT
Nicholls Leadbitter Parkes Clarke Brown sinclair lines mansell Taylor Bodin Harrison I felt for along time now matt Taylor would be better in a centre attacking midfield position. He can make things happen, away at Luton showed great vision to set up Sinclair. Why would you play Mansell after his appalling performance? I think Clarke deserves a place more. I also think Easter was the best of the strikers Saturday albeit he was also por. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 14, 2015 10:10:21 GMT
Nicholls Leadbitter Parkes Clarke Brown sinclair lines mansell Taylor Bodin Harrison I felt for along time now matt Taylor would be better in a centre attacking midfield position. He can make things happen, away at Luton showed great vision to set up Sinclair. Why would you play Mansell after his appalling performance? I think Clarke deserves a place more. I also think Easter was the best of the strikers Saturday albeit he was also por. Not sure Clarke was any better and at least Mansell usually puts in a decent shift, although playing him & Taylor hardly sends out a good message to the rest of the squad whodid put some effort in on Saturday? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 14, 2015 10:20:20 GMT
Why would you play Mansell after his appalling performance? I think Clarke deserves a place more. I also think Easter was the best of the strikers Saturday albeit he was also por. Not sure Clarke was any better and at least Mansell usually puts in a decent shift, although playing him & Taylor hardly sends out a good message to the rest of the squad whodid put some effort in on Saturday? Thought Clarke was more involved than Mansell and has been better so far this season. |
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Post by Tilly's heroes on Sept 14, 2015 15:32:51 GMT
Tbh I'm surprised that Easter is starting games, especially when he's been quoted in the past couple of weeks of being only 65-70% fit. How must that make the other strikers feel to be warming the bench to a player who's no where near match fitness? Bodin has looked dangerous when he's come on during games and I feel deserves his chance at the weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 7:24:25 GMT
Nicholls Leadbitter Parkes Clarke Brown sinclair lines mansell Taylor Bodin Harrison I felt for along time now matt Taylor would be better in a centre attacking midfield position. He can make things happen, away at Luton showed great vision to set up Sinclair. Why would you play Mansell after his appalling performance? I think Clarke deserves a place more. I also think Easter was the best of the strikers Saturday albeit he was also por. I don't rate mansell or Clarke at this level but I prefer mansell out the two. |
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Post by nolongernonleaguegas on Sept 15, 2015 9:36:41 GMT
Easter is fully fit he's just embarrassed to admit it. Regardless of the level he's not a natural goal scorer
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