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Post by RD on Sept 23, 2015 11:47:21 GMT
That just seems to be a link back here mate. I have checked his feed and can't see any mention of it... I tend to find Vital quite reliable and they are now running this as well... Hmmmm Yeh sorry mate, I ballsed it up originally - give it another go now Edit: Apologies, my memory isn't spot on. Here was the actual tweet my post relates to: James Mcnamara @jpmcnamara7 19 hrs @ashton_gas Hi mate. Spoke to a third party on Sunday who said he would pass number on to people involved. There has been no reply yet To me personally, that suggests there is a takeover bid in progress (unless the third party is winding him up, but that would surely be unlikely IMO). |
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Post by r0che11e on Sept 23, 2015 11:50:09 GMT
As I understand it, the consortium would build the full spec UWE , AND repay ,all debts. If this is the case, what in the earth is the club dithering over. Even Higgs could not be that stupid, could he? If he is looking to be remembered, perhaps the the consortium will agree to name a strand in the new stadium after him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 11:51:04 GMT
Thanks mate, got it.
Well, that does add some more fuel to the fire doesn't it!
Much like Vital, I tend to find James generally tweets things that have some truth behind them..
Starting to feel like there is a little too much smoke for there not to be a fire somewhere....
Just really hoping that there is no truth in the rumors that a certain someone is stalling this deal because they have not had there personal debts repaid.... Given how said debts were generated, I would hope that he individual in question would be open to writing at least a proportion of these debts off if it was for the good of the club.
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Post by Parrot on Sept 23, 2015 11:56:18 GMT
As I understand it, the consortium would build the full spec UWE , AND repay ,all debts. If this is the case, what in the earth is the club dithering over. Even Higgs could not be that stupid, could he? If he is looking to be remembered, perhaps the the consortium will agree to name a strand in the new stadium after him. One word - EGO |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:00:10 GMT
That just seems to be a link back here mate. I have checked his feed and can't see any mention of it... I tend to find Vital quite reliable and they are now running this as well... Hmmmm Yeh sorry mate, I ballsed it up originally - give it another go now Edit: Apologies, my memory isn't spot on. Here was the actual tweet my post relates to: James Mcnamara @jpmcnamara7 19 hrs @ashton_gas Hi mate. Spoke to a third party on Sunday who said he would pass number on to people involved. There has been no reply yet To me personally, that suggests there is a takeover bid in progress (unless the third party is winding him up, but that would surely be unlikely IMO). Don't tell me...the contact person is a Mr C. Lyon, and the phone number is for Bristol Zoo? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:02:25 GMT
...I would hope that he individual in question would be open to writing at least a proportion of these debts off if it was for the good of the club. Fat chance, he's a business man first and foremost, think he'd milk something like this for every penny he could. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:06:47 GMT
...I would hope that he individual in question would be open to writing at least a proportion of these debts off if it was for the good of the club. Fat chance, he's a business man first and foremost, think he'd milk something like this for every penny he could. Can we have at least some sort of sanity here please? Nobody knows even if a deal exists. Nobody knows what the terms of the deal are (if it exists), so I do find this constant criticism of NH to be in really bad taste! FFS, get real people. You are directing undue criticism at the bloke regarding something that, at the moment, is an unsubstantiated rumour. |
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Post by blackthorngas on Sept 23, 2015 12:07:41 GMT
Hope someone breaks cover soon,starting to get to me. As the famous quote goes " it's the hope that kills you"
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Post by fanboy on Sept 23, 2015 12:08:30 GMT
Fat chance, he's a business man first and foremost, think he'd milk something like this for every penny he could. Can we have at least some sort of sanity here please? Nobody knows even if a deal exists. Nobody knows what the terms of the deal are (if it exists), so I do find this constant criticism of NH to be in really bad taste! FFS, get real people. You are directing undue criticism at the bloke regarding something that, at the moment, is an unsubstantiated rumour. You may consider it an unsubstantiated rumour, I do not. And I assume that is the case for many on here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:13:26 GMT
Can we have at least some sort of sanity here please? Nobody knows even if a deal exists. Nobody knows what the terms of the deal are (if it exists), so I do find this constant criticism of NH to be in really bad taste! FFS, get real people. You are directing undue criticism at the bloke regarding something that, at the moment, is an unsubstantiated rumour. You may consider it an unsubstantiated rumour, I do not. And I assume that is the case for many on here. No criticism of anybody involved, but yes, at the moment it is an unsubstantiated rumour, nothing more. That is not knocking anyone, it's the truth. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:13:58 GMT
...I would hope that he individual in question would be open to writing at least a proportion of these debts off if it was for the good of the club. Fat chance, he's a business man first and foremost, think he'd milk something like this for every penny he could. Well then that goes against his one and only excuse for his frankly appalling tenure as chairman of this club (f**k it, no need for cloak and dagger here! It's pretty obvious whom I am talking about)! His excuse has always been to roll out the old "I am a fan of this club first and foremost". I have excused him of many an error based on this, I always liked the fact that we had a fan in charge of this club and to be fair, he did always seem to be genuinely keen to act in the best interest of the fans. However, this works both ways! It is all well and good claiming "I am a fan don't forget" when things are going badly, but you have to then back these words up when you are asked to prove it. If he really was a fan and really did have the clubs best interest at heart then he would step aside if it was genuinely for the best of the club. I would of course hope that he would be able to recoup at least a percentage of his invested money, but quite frankly, if he had ran things better in his time as no1 then the club would be nowhere near as much in debt to him personally as they are now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:16:24 GMT
You may consider it an unsubstantiated rumour, I do not. And I assume that is the case for many on here. No criticism of anybody involved, but yes, at the moment it is an unsubstantiated rumour, nothing more. That is not knocking anyone, it's the truth. I have made it very clear that my opinion on this is very much based on 'IF' this rumour proves to be correct. As I have also said, the sources are starting to mount up now and the smoke is getting very thick... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 23, 2015 12:18:06 GMT
Fat chance, he's a business man first and foremost, think he'd milk something like this for every penny he could. Can we have at least some sort of sanity here please? Nobody knows even if a deal exists. Nobody knows what the terms of the deal are (if it exists), so I do find this constant criticism of NH to be in really bad taste! FFS, get real people. You are directing undue criticism at the bloke regarding something that, at the moment, is an unsubstantiated rumour. If it is just a rumour with no substance then NH could make a simply announcement to stop it speading any further, alternatively if it's more than a rumour he could also put his side of the story over so we all know where we stand. I just hope something is clarified one way or the other before Saturday as we don't want this distracting from what is a very important home game. The latest from @jamesmcnarama - tweets & replies If anything is to come out it would probably happen through the BBC. That's impression I got from conversation I had. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 23, 2015 12:21:26 GMT
Topper - Just throwing it in the mix - regards valuing the club and potential take over bids -Could it be that's why we have appealed the court case? - a long drawn out saga would mean we are almost impossible to value for the foreseeable future - not accusing anyone of anything btw just throwing it in the mix - UTG Yes means perfect sense JTS, why else fight on with this crazy retrial! Surely that depends on when NH first heard of the potential bid? Was it before or after he entered the appeal? |
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Post by RD on Sept 23, 2015 12:26:53 GMT
Fat chance, he's a business man first and foremost, think he'd milk something like this for every penny he could. Can we have at least some sort of sanity here please? Nobody knows even if a deal exists. Nobody knows what the terms of the deal are (if it exists), so I do find this constant criticism of NH to be in really bad taste! FFS, get real people. You are directing undue criticism at the bloke regarding something that, at the moment, is an unsubstantiated rumour. Totally understand your comments and they are of course fair. However, I think people are simply posting based on these rumours being correct. Not that they necessarily believe that they are, just simply based on IF they were proven to be correct (if that makes sense). Let's be honest, this rumour is potentially the biggest news in the history of this football club. So I think people just want to debate what they can given the information that they have at the moment (which is of course very little). IMO, it's not that different from discussing formations; it's all based on presumption and could all be a waste of time; it's just something to discuss. I certainly agree that it would be sensible for people to avoid saying "NH should go now! Disgraceful!" when we don't officially know anything. But I personally don't see a problem with saying "IF the rumoured deal is accurate, as it's an unbelievably good deal, if NH were to turn it down, he should go! Disgraceful!". Some may disagree with me, but that's how I see it personally. |
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Post by fabregas on Sept 23, 2015 12:32:36 GMT
As I understand it, the consortium would build the full spec UWE , AND repay ,all debts. If this is the case, what in the earth is the club dithering over. Even Higgs could not be that stupid, could he? If he is looking to be remembered, perhaps the the consortium will agree to name a strand in the new stadium after him. This could well be the sticking point if NH is expected to hand over assets that could be worth something north of £30m in return for the clearance of £7m or so of debt. Don't forget that whilst the Mem is the principal asset, there are also other material assets that also have a value, such as the training ground, infrastructure, kit and training equipment, the BRFC and Gas brands, players contracts, supporters club membership, not to mention goodwill etc. I think it is perfectly reasonable position for NH to expect a 'fair value' for the assets rather than just receive his loans back. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:43:05 GMT
If this is the case, what in the earth is the club dithering over. Even Higgs could not be that stupid, could he? If he is looking to be remembered, perhaps the the consortium will agree to name a strand in the new stadium after him. This could well be the sticking point if NH is expected to hand over assets that could be worth something north of £30m in return for the clearance of £7m or so of debt. Don't forget that whilst the Mem is the principal asset, there are also other material assets that also have a value, such as the training ground, infrastructure, kit and training equipment, the BRFC and Gas brands, players contracts, supporters club membership, not to mention goodwill etc. I think it is perfectly reasonable position for NH to expect a 'fair value' for the assets rather than just receive his loans back. and The Beard....Don't forget The Beard. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:43:52 GMT
Yes means perfect sense JTS, why else fight on with this crazy retrial! Surely that depends on when NH first heard of the potential bid? Was it before or after he entered the appeal? Hopefully before otherwise we now know NH is mental! |
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Post by fanboy on Sept 23, 2015 12:45:45 GMT
This could well be the sticking point if NH is expected to hand over assets that could be worth something north of £30m in return for the clearance of £7m or so of debt. Don't forget that whilst the Mem is the principal asset, there are also other material assets that also have a value, such as the training ground, infrastructure, kit and training equipment, the BRFC and Gas brands, players contracts, supporters club membership, not to mention goodwill etc. I think it is perfectly reasonable position for NH to expect a 'fair value' for the assets rather than just receive his loans back. and The Beard....Don't forget The Beard. I'm led to believe the £40m is for JUST the beard. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:51:39 GMT
OK, I'm now starting to put evidence together from my sources.
Airbus have just opened a new factory in Alabama in the US of A.
Airbus have a factory at Filton, South Glos.
Birmingham (alleged base of The Consortium) is the largest city in Alabama.
It's all coming together.
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