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Post by curlywurly on Oct 1, 2015 0:23:56 GMT
History tells us that a team's position after 10 games is a fair indicator of where they will end up. That is not to say things don't change, but there is a pretty good correlation. So with Rovers currently at 14th place, we may be falling short of some of our expectations. Carry on as we are and we'll end up on 60 points - not bad, but out of the play-offs.
But, we are only 3 points away from a play off place and (more of a stretch) 3 wins away from top spot.
Last night's game and the demolition jobs on Yeovil, Barnet and possibly Luton suggest to me that there are plenty of teams that we can beat and beat well in this league. I still think we are good enough to make a charge for top 7, but probably not good enough for automatic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 2:14:27 GMT
newly promoted team ,,,main thing is survive and not get relegated anything else is a bonus surely? bournemouth bristol city and of course rovers thats it
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Post by z1zou on Oct 1, 2015 7:20:46 GMT
With the squad we have, we should be happy to finish top half and pushing play offs.
The reality is that we just haven't strengthened enough to expect a top 7 spot.
first things first, we need to start playing at home like we have shown we can do away. Nobody goes up without having a rock solid record on their own turf
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 1, 2015 7:36:34 GMT
We are pretty well in a win one lose one situation but previous to the other night we had only taken one point out of the last 15 so our current form taken over the last 6 games is P 6 W 1 D 1 L 4 which if that form continued will see a long hard relegation battle. My worry at the moment is that we cannot seem to win at home and we cannot seem to beat the "better" teams so how we do this season will depend a lot on whether we are good enough to beat any of say the top 10 or whether we are now going to run into form.
Generally the teams who reach consistency do so with very few changes either in personnel or the way they play.In many years of watching I have found that to do well you need to have consistently performing players in the key areas ie a good striker, a good creator in midfield and a good centre half with a strong goalkeeper.
At the moment we seem to have a good goalkeeper and centre half but none of the other two.DC does not seem to know who his best strikers are or his best midfield /wingers or even whether we play with wingers or wing backs. There always seems to be something changed irrespective of the result of the previous match and that,in my mind will result in a continuation of the present roller coaster.
Whether this is what we should be satisfied with I am not sure- probably if we were in League 1 then I think it is but as we are in League 2 then I think we should expect more- and why not?
The advantage we do have at present is that our inconsistency is a very fine line ie we are not getting stuffed by anybody therefore that points to the possibility that we can do better if we can find the right formula. It would be a much worse position if we were getting beaten easily some games as it would then suggest that we neither have a good defence nor a good attack but there again it could be said that that was the very thing we had in our relegation season!
Interesting times ahead and in all honesty what following Bristol Rovers is all about.
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Post by mumbles on Oct 1, 2015 7:45:01 GMT
You need to take into account the difficult start we've had. The majority of the teams that we've played so far are near the top of the table.
I expect us to improve our form now we're coming out of the tough spell and I think we'll end up being top ten.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 1, 2015 7:47:27 GMT
You need to take into account the difficult start we've had. The majority of the teams that we've played so far are near the top of the table. I expect us to improve our form now we're coming out of the tough spell and I think we'll end up being top ten. Unless they are only top because they've played all the crappy teams like us!  |
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Post by Russgas on Oct 1, 2015 7:54:07 GMT
The reality is that we just haven't strengthened enough to expect a top 7 spot. Spot on. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 1, 2015 8:31:49 GMT
We are pretty well in a win one lose one situation but previous to the other night we had only taken one point out of the last 15 so our current form taken over the last 6 games is P 6 W 1 D 1 L 4 which if that form continued will see a long hard relegation battle. My worry at the moment is that we cannot seem to win at home and we cannot seem to beat the "better" teams so how we do this season will depend a lot on whether we are good enough to beat any of say the top 10 or whether we are now going to run into form. Generally the teams who reach consistency do so with very few changes either in personnel or the way they play.In many years of watching I have found that to do well you need to have consistently performing players in the key areas ie a good striker, a good creator in midfield and a good centre half with a strong goalkeeper. At the moment we seem to have a good goalkeeper and centre half but none of the other two.DC does not seem to know who his best strikers are or his best midfield /wingers or even whether we play with wingers or wing backs. There always seems to be something changed irrespective of the result of the previous match and that,in my mind will result in a continuation of the present roller coaster. Whether this is what we should be satisfied with I am not sure- probably if we were in League 1 then I think it is but as we are in League 2 then I think we should expect more- and why not? The advantage we do have at present is that our inconsistency is a very fine line ie we are not getting stuffed by anybody therefore that points to the possibility that we can do better if we can find the right formula. It would be a much worse position if we were getting beaten easily some games as it would then suggest that we neither have a good defence nor a good attack but there again it could be said that that was the very thing we had in our relegation season! Interesting times ahead and in all honesty what following Bristol Rovers is all about. Consistency is not a problem! We beat the lower teams and lose to the better teams! |
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Post by Squiffy on Oct 1, 2015 9:44:48 GMT
We took time to adjust to our new surroundings last season, then found a way to put points on the board. The situation is very similar this time; a different league which is new to quite a few players. The evidence from DC's managerial career, when he has been in charge for a full season, suggests that he has been able to nurture the consistency we all crave, but which cannot be guaranteed in the topsy-turvy world of football. I'm quietly confident that this season will turn out to be another good one with a realistic chance of having something to play for right up to the end.
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Post by axegas on Oct 1, 2015 9:55:19 GMT
newly promoted team ,,,main thing is survive and not get relegated anything else is a bonus surely? bournemouth bristol city and of course rovers thats it city probably wasnt the best example you could have given UTG |
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Post by supergas on Oct 1, 2015 12:17:29 GMT
History tells us that a team's position after 10 games is a fair indicator of where they will end up. That is not to say things don't change, but there is a pretty good correlation. So with Rovers currently at 14th place, we may be falling short of some of our expectations. Carry on as we are and we'll end up on 60 points - not bad, but out of the play-offs. Yes and no. Stevenage were 13th after 10 games last season, finished 6th. The season before Burton and Southend were 12th and 14 after 10 games and finished 6th and 5th. Oh and York were 16th and finished 7th. Season before that, Fleetwood were 3rd after ten games and finished 14th...and Northampton who were 13th finished 6th... We've never been a team or club that plays by the rules, so our final league position is totally up to us - the opponent on the day and the other 23 teams in the league have no bearing on where we finish given we're only ten games in... |
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 1, 2015 13:23:09 GMT
History tells us that a team's position after 10 games is a fair indicator of where they will end up. That is not to say things don't change, but there is a pretty good correlation. So with Rovers currently at 14th place, we may be falling short of some of our expectations. Carry on as we are and we'll end up on 60 points - not bad, but out of the play-offs. Yes and no. Stevenage were 13th after 10 games last season, finished 6th. The season before Burton and Southend were 12th and 14 after 10 games and finished 6th and 5th. Oh and York were 16th and finished 7th. Season before that, Fleetwood were 3rd after ten games and finished 14th...and Northampton who were 13th finished 6th... We've never been a team or club that plays by the rules, so our final league position is totally up to us - the opponent on the day and the other 23 teams in the league have no bearing on where we finish given we're only ten games in... Agreed, there are plenty of examples of teams climbing or falling from an early position. Just looking at the "Throwback Thursday" video, we were 16th with 8 games to go, but still made the play-offs. So it can be done. That was why I said it was only a fair indicator. I like your point that we are a club that "doesn't play by the rules". I'm optimistic that we can continue to climb this division. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 1, 2015 16:20:45 GMT
I'd take a mid table finish.
We've got a young side who will continue to develop for the future. The most important thing is that we never slip out of the football league ever again.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Oct 1, 2015 16:37:05 GMT
I'd take a mid table finish. We've got a young side who will continue to develop for the future. The most important thing is that we never slip out of the football league ever again. Agreed. And I also agree with Centenary Gas who said in another thread that it would probably be too soon if we were to go up this season (not that I think we have the players to do so). Not sure we have many players in our squad who are L1 standard at all. |
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Post by supergas on Oct 1, 2015 18:19:14 GMT
I'd take a mid table finish. We've got a young side who will continue to develop for the future. The most important thing is that we never slip out of the football league ever again. Agreed. And I also agree with Centenary Gas who said in another thread that it would probably be too soon if we were to go up this season (not that I think we have the players to do so). Not sure we have many players in our squad who are L1 standard at all. Too soon off the pitch for us to go up....probably. Too soon on the pitch? Well, it's a young team, who knows what they will be capable of in 12 months time...? |
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