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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 22:27:07 GMT
Your surely taking the p after the accusations you made about fellow forum users criticising Harrison last week? It's baffling how Harrison & Taylor are good enough away from home but not at the Mem, surely for most strikers it's the other way round. We clearly need a Newport type John Lewis to take the pressure for them but where's the finance going to come from? Haha I was just thinking the same thing,last week Ellis could do whatever he likes as he is a hero now he hasn't scored we should chuck in the recycling He thinks he's better that he is hence the sh** attitude,I would put him on the transfer list and get someone else in who can he the target or get Lucas back an give him a run of games i dont think ellis has performed on the pitch this season,,last week the subject was about 3 players watching city which i dont give a stuff about,,,,against chesham i felt he didnt apply himself to the job and his attitude wasnt right. how often have you watched lucas play?
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Post by peterpirate on Nov 11, 2015 12:28:06 GMT
Every week in a Lucas stalker ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by peterpirate on Nov 11, 2015 12:29:09 GMT
I'm I meant not in
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Post by phillistine on Nov 11, 2015 13:04:00 GMT
harrisons goals last season and taylors industry despite dodgy finishing helped us get promotion and i was very exited about them this season expecting them to kick on and establish themselves as league players. but sadly im wrong taylor is never going to make it as a striker and neither is harrison,,,ellis looked disinterested and his 1st touch was lousy again today,he also gave away stupid free kicks when chesham were under pressure so frustrating taylor just isnt up to it where it matters most and im convinced both players will not be offered a contract for next season. Your surely taking the p after the accusations you made about fellow forum users criticising Harrison last week? It's baffling how Harrison & Taylor are good enough away from home but not at the Mem, surely for most strikers it's the other way round. We clearly need a Newport type John Lewis to take the pressure for them but where's the finance going to come from? Its not baffling at all. When you are away from home then our attackers get space to move and play in. At home then they just get crowded out as the away team sit back and defend deep. When John Lewis played against us the other day he had the space that our guys get away from home but when he plays at home you will probably find that he will struggle as do Taylor and Harrison. If you are not a clinical finisher then you will struggle at home. If we had scored early on on Sunday then Chesham would have had to come out and we would have walloped them. A good few years ago Wimbledon then in the Southern League defeated the League Champions Leeds by simply placing 8 defenders in the box and physically blocking everything that was thrown at them. As bad as Sunday was - it happens. As long as our guys dont lose too much confidence after Saturday then they will do ok against Southend as it is a different type of game completely.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2015 13:14:55 GMT
Still doesn't explain how Taylor could round the keeper at Cambridge and score but missed a similar chance against Northampton? 17 attempts at goal on Sunday doesn't suggest it's all down to defences not letting the strikers have chances.?
Whatever Harrison, Taylor & Easter are not working at home so surely DC needs to try Lucas or Blisset to see if they can find more space? Even Montano on the wing to give us width must be an option.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 11, 2015 14:23:53 GMT
Still doesn't explain how Taylor could round the keeper at Cambridge and score but missed a similar chance against Northampton? 17 attempts at goal on Sunday doesn't suggest it's all down to defences not letting the strikers have chances.? Whatever Harrison, Taylor & Easter are not working at home so surely DC needs to try Lucas or Blisset to see if they can find more space? Even Montano on the wing to give us width must be an option. Well at least the former of those incidents occurred after the latter - which suggests development/improvement. A player can miss a sitter and then smack a screamer into the top corner from 25 yards out the next minute. Football has never and will never make much sense!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 15, 2015 12:37:31 GMT
You know I like stats......
Here is a comparison between our strikers last year and this:
2014/15 SEASON
LEAGUE (inc play-offs):
TAYLOR: 43 starts, 4 sub appearances: 20 goals 3831 minutes played @ 192 minutes per goal
HARRISON: 10 starts, 28 sub appearances: 14 goals 1341 minutes played @ 96 minutes per goal
LEAGUE AND CUP:
TAYLOR: 46 starts, 4 sub appearances: 21 goals 4063 minutes played @ 193 minutes per goal
HARRISON: 10 starts, 29 sub appearances: 17 goals 1454 minutes played @ 86 minutes per goal
2015/16 SEASON so far
LEAGUE:
TAYLOR: 11 starts, 5 sub appearances: 7 goals 1076 minutes playes @ 154 minutes per goal
HARRISON: 8 starts, 7 sub appearances: 4 goals 812 mins played @ 203 minutes per goal
EASTER: 13 starts, 2 sub appearances: 4 goals 1007 minutes played @ 252 minutes per goal
LEAGUE AND CUP
TAYLOR: 14 starts, 6 sub appearances: 8 goals 1274 minutes played @ 159 minutes per goal
HARRISON: 10 starts, 7 sub appearances: 5 goals 992 minutes played @ 198 minutes per goal
EASTER: 16 starts, 3 sub appearances: 5 goals 1259 minutes played @ 252 minutes per goal
So, Taylor's stats have improved as he's gone up in class. Hopefully he can continue this. Ellis' stats have gone down - they are still respectable but this is helped by 2 penalties. I think he will come on strong in the second half of the season. Time to keep the faith. Easter needs to improve his goalscoring ratio. Interesting that DC has looked to rotate the three of them so far, as they have all broadly played a similar amount of time. I wonder if this will continue as the season goes on, or whether he will find a settled strike-partnership?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 15, 2015 13:17:28 GMT
You know I like stats...... Here is a comparison between our strikers last year and this: 2014/15 SEASONLEAGUE (inc play-offs): TAYLOR: 43 starts, 4 sub appearances: 20 goals 3831 minutes played @ 192 minutes per goal HARRISON: 10 starts, 28 sub appearances: 14 goals 1341 minutes played @ 96 minutes per goal LEAGUE AND CUP: TAYLOR: 46 starts, 4 sub appearances: 21 goals 4063 minutes played @ 193 minutes per goal HARRISON: 10 starts, 29 sub appearances: 17 goals 1454 minutes played @ 86 minutes per goal 2015/16 SEASON so farLEAGUE: TAYLOR: 11 starts, 5 sub appearances: 7 goals 1076 minutes playes @ 154 minutes per goal HARRISON: 8 starts, 7 sub appearances: 4 goals 812 mins played @ 203 minutes per goal EASTER: 13 starts, 2 sub appearances: 4 goals 1007 minutes played @ 252 minutes per goal LEAGUE AND CUP TAYLOR: 14 starts, 6 sub appearances: 8 goals 1274 minutes played @ 159 minutes per goal HARRISON: 10 starts, 7 sub appearances: 5 goals 992 minutes played @ 198 minutes per goal EASTER: 16 starts, 3 sub appearances: 5 goals 1259 minutes played @ 252 minutes per goal So, Taylor's stats have improved as he's gone up in class. Hopefully he can continue this. Ellis' stats have gone down - they are still respectable but this is helped by 2 penalties. I think he will come on strong in the second half of the season. Time to keep the faith. Easter needs to improve his goalscoring ratio. Interesting that DC has looked to rotate the three of them so far, as they have all broadly played a similar amount of time. I wonder if this will continue as the season goes on, or whether he will find a settled strike-partnership? Ive always questioned why people were quick to get on Taylor's back before Easter's. Taylor now has the goals to back himself up in this league. Hopefully that will get people off his back.......or until next season in league one at least! Ellis and Easter need to step it up!
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 15, 2015 13:30:55 GMT
We love our hero's and villains at Rovers and are too quick to create both
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 15, 2015 13:33:52 GMT
We love our hero's and villains at Rovers and are too quick to create both That's far to sensible. You New here?
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Post by kylegas on Nov 15, 2015 13:46:57 GMT
Just watched Taylor's post match interview, he said "obviously" 15 times!! Lol
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Post by pirateman on Nov 15, 2015 13:59:46 GMT
You know I like stats...... Here is a comparison between our strikers last year and this: 2014/15 SEASONLEAGUE (inc play-offs): TAYLOR: 43 starts, 4 sub appearances: 20 goals 3831 minutes played @ 192 minutes per goal HARRISON: 10 starts, 28 sub appearances: 14 goals 1341 minutes played @ 96 minutes per goal LEAGUE AND CUP: TAYLOR: 46 starts, 4 sub appearances: 21 goals 4063 minutes played @ 193 minutes per goal HARRISON: 10 starts, 29 sub appearances: 17 goals 1454 minutes played @ 86 minutes per goal 2015/16 SEASON so farLEAGUE: TAYLOR: 11 starts, 5 sub appearances: 7 goals 1076 minutes playes @ 154 minutes per goal HARRISON: 8 starts, 7 sub appearances: 4 goals 812 mins played @ 203 minutes per goal EASTER: 13 starts, 2 sub appearances: 4 goals 1007 minutes played @ 252 minutes per goal LEAGUE AND CUP TAYLOR: 14 starts, 6 sub appearances: 8 goals 1274 minutes played @ 159 minutes per goal HARRISON: 10 starts, 7 sub appearances: 5 goals 992 minutes played @ 198 minutes per goal EASTER: 16 starts, 3 sub appearances: 5 goals 1259 minutes played @ 252 minutes per goal So, Taylor's stats have improved as he's gone up in class. Hopefully he can continue this. Ellis' stats have gone down - they are still respectable but this is helped by 2 penalties. I think he will come on strong in the second half of the season. Time to keep the faith. Easter needs to improve his goalscoring ratio. Interesting that DC has looked to rotate the three of them so far, as they have all broadly played a similar amount of time. I wonder if this will continue as the season goes on, or whether he will find a settled strike-partnership? Don't be sensible 2nd May you know we don't like it on Gaschat
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Post by long john silver on Nov 15, 2015 14:18:31 GMT
Taylor is a goal scorer at the end of the day , he misses a few along the way but his record for us is good . At the end of the day if his record was any better he would be playing for a bigger club .
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 15, 2015 15:32:03 GMT
We love our hero's and villains at Rovers and are too quick to create both That's far to sensible. You New here? Yes my names Sergi and I hacked Dinsdales account
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Post by gasincider on Nov 15, 2015 15:57:26 GMT
The reason I believe we won yesterday was that Carlisle decided to bring on a more attacking formation which allowed us room to get in behind them. Until then, together with a little luck that Carlisle had, we were not really getting anywhere after the first 15 mins.
I don't think Taylor is a natural striker. In fact yesterday he did very little until even he couldn't miss the first goal. I would play him in behind a front two. But he is a confidence player, and that woke him up, to allow him to run at the defenders. Eventually he got a well merited second goal.
The one I don't understand is Gosling. I just don't see what he brings to the party. Montano having been given a game looked to get the ball in the box at every opportunity, and should be given more game time to see if he can cut it. I think it pretty obvious that Gosling will go next summer, so let's see if Montano can do the job.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 15, 2015 16:45:13 GMT
I'm not sure whether Taylor is a natural striker, but what I am sure of is that he has been our best striker in a successful team over the last 15 months. I think he deserves an enormous amount of credit for improving himself as a player, proving just as effective in league 2 as he was at the level below. I don't know if the stats for this are there but I'm willing to bet that his goals per chances ratio is much improved this season over last. In the last 12 years our top goalscorers (league only, including play-offs) are:
R.Lambert: 52 goals from 117 starts R.Walker 50 goals from 118 starts J.Agogo: 41 goals from 109 starts J.Kuffour: 32 goals from 104 starts M.Taylor: 27 goals from 55 starts
Taylor has the best goals per game ratio of all of the above. Doesn't make him the best of that bunch by a long way, but when we complain about him not being a natural striker, well natural or not, he's getting the job required of him done.
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 15, 2015 16:49:50 GMT
The reason I believe we won yesterday was that Carlisle decided to bring on a more attacking formation which allowed us room to get in behind them. Until then, together with a little luck that Carlisle had, we were not really getting anywhere after the first 15 mins. I don't think Taylor is a natural striker. In fact yesterday he did very little until even he couldn't miss the first goal. I would play him in behind a front two. But he is a confidence player, and that woke him up, to allow him to run at the defenders. Eventually he got a well merited second goal. The one I don't understand is Gosling. I just don't see what he brings to the party. Montano having been given a game looked to get the ball in the box at every opportunity, and should be given more game time to see if he can cut it. I think it pretty obvious that Gosling will go next summer, so let's see if Montano can do the job. Still think this thread shows why fans are fans and wannabe football managers pundits and experts. Lines, Taylor Harrison Montano and now Gosling become the targets for whatever reason other than some Gasheads just have to have a villian to hate/ blame as much as one to love. Enjoyed Adam from London? On Twentyman after the game - 'Hate all the negativity on the forum.' Let's actually look at the facts - Harrison scores for Wales, Montano played well in a rare start getting the ball in early - Lines was MoM with his driving runs and goal set up - Taylor gets 2 goals and is 'up there' in the goal scoring charts - not bad for a player that's never played league football - started the first move for the 1st goal with a great flick and beat 3 players for the 2nd. Would suggest if Lambert scored this goal there would be plenty dribbling on here. Reality is we just don't have that gas hero in our ranks this season - it's a hard working unit fighting together for the shirt - last time we had that it was Francis team at Twerton. But hey ho let's the moaners moan haters hate because they can't see further than their nose - we actually have a pretty good team that just might make the play offs this season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 17:19:29 GMT
I'm not sure whether Taylor is a natural striker, but what I am sure of is that he has been our best striker in a successful team over the last 15 months. I think he deserves an enormous amount of credit for improving himself as a player, proving just as effective in league 2 as he was at the level below. I don't know if the stats for this are there but I'm willing to bet that his goals per chances ratio is much improved this season over last. In the last 12 years our top goalscorers (league only, including play-offs) are: R.Lambert: 52 goals from 117 starts R.Walker 50 goals from 118 starts J.Agogo: 41 goals from 109 starts J.Kuffour: 32 goals from 104 starts M.Taylor: 27 goals from 55 starts Taylor has the best goals per game ratio of all of the above. Doesn't make him the best of that bunch by a long way, but when we complain about him not being a natural striker, well natural or not, he's getting the job required of him done. Crikey! That'll Fox em.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 15, 2015 17:57:39 GMT
I'm not sure whether Taylor is a natural striker, but what I am sure of is that he has been our best striker in a successful team over the last 15 months. I think he deserves an enormous amount of credit for improving himself as a player, proving just as effective in league 2 as he was at the level below. I don't know if the stats for this are there but I'm willing to bet that his goals per chances ratio is much improved this season over last. In the last 12 years our top goalscorers (league only, including play-offs) are: R.Lambert: 52 goals from 117 starts R.Walker 50 goals from 118 starts J.Agogo: 41 goals from 109 starts J.Kuffour: 32 goals from 104 starts M.Taylor: 27 goals from 55 starts Taylor has the best goals per game ratio of all of the above. Doesn't make him the best of that bunch by a long way, but when we complain about him not being a natural striker, well natural or not, he's getting the job required of him done. Cracking stuff if the above stats are correct. Matty can be incredibly frustrating to watch but he's 25 years old and has played the square root of f*ck all in terms of league football so there's still lots of time for him to hone his goal-scoring talents. He's not going to set the world alight but he's good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 18:13:59 GMT
im totally confused by taylor obviously as i created this thread!!
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