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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 11:38:26 GMT
This season has all the hallmarks of 2000/1 under Ollie,couldnt win at home,we had 24 points that season,just 2 less than this one and we all know what happened then.Ollie was gone by Jan and down we went.Touches of deja vu Are you seriously comparing the two considering how much money Holloway had at his disposal and calibre of player he had compared to what Darrel Clarke inherited and had to sign on a pittance? You may well get your wish Padstow, if only DC wanted your expert help! Then your personal crusade against the bloke would never started. Lifes to short to be bitter and twisted. Just comparing the home records ,league position and points gathered by the 2 sides,it makes scarey reading,regardless of who were in what side and what division.By the way our record for home losses is 14
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 11:44:41 GMT
for me your report is distorted by sheer disappointment which i understand,,,you simply dont like the fact that we dont play a high pressing game which some teams employ ie spurs and liverpool but others dont ie man utd man city,so for you dc will always be tactically wrong which he isnt,he simply sets his teams up differently to your preferred way of playing? also are you seriously suggesting we play easter and lines in central midfield? what fun our opponents would have if that was the case Agreed - Steve's negative report sums up the reaction of a lot of fans. We are on the edge of the playoffs then get a couple of bad results (not necessarily performances) when we could have won both games and suddenyl DC is tactically inept and we are a non league team heading back into oblivion. On the contrary I see us as a mid table in league 2 re establishing our leasgue status after spending last season playing non league and we are playing some decent football in the process. This season may be a bit too soon for a promotion push but I wouldn't rule it out - we are a decent side and some of the players who had previously only played non league foootball are adapting well and certainly dont look non league to me - Taylor and Sinclair in particular. I find it bemusing that people criticise DC when he has brought a bit of pride and commitment back to the team which was sadly lacking for a good number of years and at the same time got us playing passing football as opposed to the long ball which is sole destroying to watch even if sometimes effective (Crawley for example beat us last week with long ball football but I feel for their fans having to watch that every week). So I think a lot of Gasheads need to be a bit more realistic about where we are in the grand scheme of things - we shouldn't expect DC will give us another promotion in our first year back in the league but if you give him time and a bit of patience I think he can get us into league 1 in the next couple of years - and I still think he will give it a damned good go this year. totally agree although finances will play a part in trying to progress from are current position
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Post by kylegas on Nov 26, 2015 12:08:00 GMT
This season has all the hallmarks of 2000/1 under Ollie,couldnt win at home,we had 24 points that season,just 2 less than this one and we all know what happened then.Ollie was gone by Jan and down we went.Touches of deja vu Couldn't disagree more if I'm honest Padstow. IMO that season was very different; the players here now are a lot stronger psychologically IMO for starters. 2000/1 was off the back of a massively disappointing end to the previous season and we never really recovered. This is the polar extreme. Furthermore, we have January where we still have an opportunity to address our shortcomings. Ultimately if we had beaten Crawley as our performance warranted on Saturday, and not had a wonder striker against us last night we'd be in the playoffs now (or 1 point out) [from memory]. So talk of relegation is madness IMO. Quite happy to take a wager with anyone that we won't go down... I never really realised it at the time but our players were defeated way before the end of Ollies last season, I was about 14/15 at the time and I met Thompson and Foster outside the training ground one day, I asked if we were gonna win Saturday and they just looked at each other and laughed, then sort of sarcastically said "we'll try" There was no believe in them what so ever, the group we have now aren't anywhere near that mental state, not yet anyway
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 26, 2015 12:13:38 GMT
The good thing about football is that everyone can have a different view because it is THEIR view of the game in question. I write it as I see it and personally I do not call passing back to a deep defensive player and then across the back four good football unless the player it is passed to has them ability to pass FORWARD to one of our players.We tend to pass the ball back to a player who then either hoofs the ball forward to one of our forwards who is outnumbered and about a foot shorter than the player they are marked by OR they then pass it sideways to another defender who is then under pressure and either hoofs it forward or out into touch OR [plays it back to our keeper who hoofs it long to our short forwards who have little chance of winning the ball. Sorry but I find our attacking slow and laborious. I would go as far as to say that I have seen many of our forwards control a ball and pass it back to one of our players and the bloody ball ends up going from our opponents final third and end up with our goalkeeper. The tactics with Lee brown are frustrating when we play a winger in front of him because whenever he receives the ball his first intention is to run forward as far as he can until he gets into trouble and only has the option to cross from way out or pass inside and then he runs forward and expects a 1-2 to get to a position where half his crosses don't beat the first defender and a couple go straight across. IMO when you are playing with a winger his first action should be a quick pass to the winger. Whoever plays left wing rarely see the ball whether it be Montano,Gosling or now Paris Cowens Hall. There is no point having a winger on Browns side so may as well play the extra midfielder. This is just my opinion as is I would like to see the midfielders supporting the attack and not just supporting the defence. The fact is that DC's tactics do not work at home and he has tried various players but the tactics are the same. He continually blames the players but never thinks that perhaps it is caused by him getting the home tactics wrong. Perhaps I've dreamt it but I'm sure DC's tried 5-3-2/3-5-2 and 3-1-2-1-2 at home this season? It's odd that since your love in with Buckle you've seemed to think that your are a better tactician than any of our managers, even though you've never even managed at non league level. I'm a better shot stopper than Nicholls. My energy is greater than Sinclair's and I'm more committed than Lines. Don't get me started on my finishing. I could also run the catering, ground and match day better whilst producing a higher quality programme. Fergie used to ring me up for advice. Ahem.... Ok, so I'm just a fat dickhead in my 40s but don't most of us think we know best on here?
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Post by roverstillidie on Nov 26, 2015 12:18:41 GMT
Perhaps I've dreamt it but I'm sure DC's tried 5-3-2/3-5-2 and 3-1-2-1-2 at home this season? It's odd that since your love in with Buckle you've seemed to think that your are a better tactician than any of our managers, even though you've never even managed at non league level. I'm a better shot stopper than Nicholls. My energy is greater than Sinclair's and I'm more committed than Lines. Don't get me started on my finishing. I could also run the catering, ground and match day better whilst producing a higher quality programme. Fergie used to ring me up for advice. Ahem.... Ok, so I'm just a fat dickhead in my 40s but don't most of us think we know best on here? Take your point....but is that not the purpose of a forum ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 26, 2015 12:26:34 GMT
I'm a better shot stopper than Nicholls. My energy is greater than Sinclair's and I'm more committed than Lines. Don't get me started on my finishing. I could also run the catering, ground and match day better whilst producing a higher quality programme. Fergie used to ring me up for advice. Ahem.... Ok, so I'm just a fat dickhead in my 40s but don't most of us think we know best on here? Take your point....but is that not the purpose of a forum ? Yes exactly! I'm a total f**k-wit but I still like to voice my opinion with authority!
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Post by roverstillidie on Nov 26, 2015 12:36:22 GMT
Don't be to hard on yourself....at least you are a wise old f**k-wit
For the record....I'm a fat dickhead in my 50's
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Post by baggins on Nov 26, 2015 12:42:14 GMT
Don't be to hard on yourself....at least you are a wise old f**k-wit For the record....I'm a fat dickhead in my 50's In my 40's, exactly the same. Anyone here not a fat dickhead?
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Post by pirateman on Nov 26, 2015 12:44:45 GMT
Don't be to hard on yourself....at least you are a wise old f**k-wit For the record....I'm a fat dickhead in my 50's In my 40's, exactly the same. Anyone here not a fat dickhead? Nope. Not me I'm a fat dickhead in my 60s
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Post by baggins on Nov 26, 2015 12:46:25 GMT
In my 40's, exactly the same. Anyone here not a fat dickhead? Nope. Not me I'm a fat dickhead in my 60s So it never leaves you then? Excellent.
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Post by pirateman on Nov 26, 2015 12:50:10 GMT
Nope. Not me I'm a fat dickhead in my 60s So it never leaves you then? Excellent. Well I have spent many years practising. At one time I was a slimmish dickhead.
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 26, 2015 12:53:26 GMT
Wtf is this sh**? Lmao. Doesn't take long for the fans to turn does it!!!! He's been that way for a while now. The Forum few lose faith in DC - great headline for the Evil Post
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 13:11:14 GMT
" My energy is greater than Sinclair's and I'm more committed than Lines. Don't get me started on my finishing. " - Is that what your missus told you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 13:12:19 GMT
Don't be to hard on yourself....at least you are a wise old f**k-wit For the record....I'm a fat dickhead in my 50's In my 40's, exactly the same. Anyone here not a fat dickhead? I'm not fat, but in my 50's.
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Post by baggins on Nov 26, 2015 13:16:14 GMT
In my 40's, exactly the same. Anyone here not a fat dickhead? I'm not fat, but in my 50's. Slim 50's dickhead.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 13:19:58 GMT
Why does stevek get personal digs over his post? It's often clear to see what's going wrong from the terrace so it's frustrating when the coaching team don't address things.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 13:22:30 GMT
I'm not fat, but in my 50's. Slim 50's dickhead. Can't deny it.
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Post by baggins on Nov 26, 2015 13:25:53 GMT
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Post by roverstillidie on Nov 26, 2015 13:27:24 GMT
In my 40's, exactly the same. Anyone here not a fat dickhead? I'm not fat, but in my 50's. I only said I was fat to make HTE feel better..... I told the truth about being in my 50's though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 13:30:31 GMT
I'm not fat, but in my 50's. I only said I was fat to make HTE feel better..... I told the truth about being in my 50's though. You're a nice chap, but regarding HTE a lard arse is a lard arse. No point trying to deny it.
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