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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 16:08:33 GMT
I am referring to the announcement last week that the Government are to allow women to serve in front-line Infantry units, in a combat role.
Who on earth thinks this is a good idea? Yes, this is 2015 and women are rightly regarded as equals, however, it is time to be brutally honest and say this is one job that is just not suited to a woman.
There are so many reasons why this is just unworkable, and if implemented, will in fact cause more deaths amongst front-line troops.
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Post by inee on Dec 21, 2015 16:18:17 GMT
Have to disagree nobby, women should serve in all female sections, it's well known from previous wars that women are absolute animals when serving in combat roles, and i think will kill more enemy, russia used women combat units against the germans to devastating effect, a big but for me is the treatment they will receive if captured but in the harsh realities of the world , we will have to put aside thoughts of being over protective to women who are on the front line.
Call be whatever for saying they should serve in all female sections but in that way they will be more ferocious as try to imaging a group of close female friends with anger and a gun
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 16:34:56 GMT
Have to disagree nobby, women should serve in all female sections, it's well known from previous wars that women are absolute animals when serving in combat roles, and i think will kill more enemy, russia used women combat units against the germans to devastating effect, a big but for me is the treatment they will receive if captured but in the harsh realities of the world , we will have to put aside thoughts of being over protective to women who are on the front line. Call be whatever for saying they should serve in all female sections but in that way they will be more ferocious as try to imaging a group of close female friends with anger and a gun I agree with you in that there should be all-women units, however, this is totally against the PC way of thinking isn't it? The mere fact of having women-only units defeats the 'equality' claim doesn't it ! Those same women-only units should not serve in front-line roles either. They could be used to guard bases for example, but should never be used in that 'close to the enemy and kill' context. Combat infantry units of mixed sexes is just wrong, will not work, and has been proven to not work (The US, Israel, Canada for example). Physically, women just cannot hack it. |
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Post by inee on Dec 21, 2015 18:38:43 GMT
It depends on how you view equality nobby pc equality has always baffled me  it's kinda like men only sections no ,mixed sections yes , female only section yes. lots of countries have female only military units and most work. Look through history female only combat units are as i said well up to killing, but i can see your point on physical stuff as the average squaddie carries much more weight into combat than even 10 years ago , but if the forces ever had shoot to kill units women would be a good choice, this is just my view, i also agree mixed units are a no no due to the fact that everyone has differing views of women, some will protect the female at all cost even to the detriment of themselves and the unit, others will say f**k it bitch you want to fight you fight end of, which will cause even more disharmony between troops, if people don't understand my last comment try to think of it this way split your mates into groups of eight then live ,sh** ,eat and sleep together for a few months with minimum home comforts(that doesn't even begin to describe operational conditions). then after 3 months when nerves are grating add a couple of females who will then eat ,sleep ,sh** and be by your sides 24hrs a day, soon very distinct fractures will appear due to the way others treat the female. not sexist or billy big bollocks just plain and simple human nature. I for one would not like to meet an angry female combatant ever. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 19:28:51 GMT
I don't think the politicians nor the top brass have thought of the 'human' factor in a mixed section. What happens if one of the guys has a relationship with a female in the section? Will that affect his performance within the section, as in he becomes over protective of the female leading to him being negligent in other areas? What happens when/if that relationship breaks up?
A Section Commander's job is one of the toughest in the world. I don't think we should be adding the role of a Social Worker onto the overworked Corporal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 21:11:41 GMT
Another way of looking at it is why are there no women in the England/Wales/New Zealand/South Africa etc etc rugby teams? I put it that there are no women who are fast enough, strong enough etc etc to cope with the demands required.
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Post by aghast on Dec 21, 2015 21:26:07 GMT
Another way of looking at it is why are there no women in the England/Wales/New Zealand/South Africa etc etc rugby teams? I put it that there are no women who are fast enough, strong enough etc etc to cope with the demands required. But to be fair you can't currently pull a trigger and shoot someone in Rugby Union. Rugby League, maybe. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 21:27:35 GMT
Another way of looking at it is why are there no women in the England/Wales/New Zealand/South Africa etc etc rugby teams? I put it that there are no women who are fast enough, strong enough etc etc to cope with the demands required. But to be fair you can't currently pull a trigger and shoot someone in Rugby Union. Rugby League, maybe. The life of a Professional Infantryman is not just about pulling a trigger and shooting someone. |
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Post by Thatslife on Dec 21, 2015 23:13:54 GMT
But to be fair you can't currently pull a trigger and shoot someone in Rugby Union. Rugby League, maybe. The life of a Professional Infantryman is not just about pulling a trigger and shooting someone. The urge to protect a woman is inherent in most men, in a combat situation that could be dangerous. |
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Post by supergas on Dec 28, 2015 0:49:18 GMT
Surely this is one of those things that will actually be handled quite well by the military...they'll allow a select few to train....one or two might make it to a unit that might make it to a front line somewhere (wherever we happen to be at the time)...at which point it will be light duties and a quick rotation away from the action. Good PR all round, nothing much has actually changed....
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it's kinda like men only sections no ,mixed sections yes , female only section yes. lots of countries have female only military units and most work.
