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Post by madgas on Jan 3, 2016 3:03:00 GMT
I was stood 100 yards away from it but where I was stood it looked like a clear elbow- certain red.
Perhaps it was a unfortunate football collision?
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Post by long john silver on Jan 3, 2016 6:32:21 GMT
didnt think there was much in it , the defender was watching the ball and raised his arms to jump. don't think any malicious was involved.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 3, 2016 6:47:02 GMT
I was miles away and it looked like a clear deliberate elbow to me.
If it wasn't, what did the ref book him for?
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Post by phillistine on Jan 3, 2016 8:31:04 GMT
When he jumped his arm was straight and wide. Peopl who attempt to elbow bend the arm and conceal it. Correct decision by the ref in my book and I thought that Gaffney did block their defender and the goal was rightly disallowed
I thought that he was the best ref we have seen this season- which I'snt saying much. The linesman was poor
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Post by wysemangas on Jan 3, 2016 9:23:49 GMT
If the ref gave the the foul for the deliberate use of an elbow then in my book it's a red,
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Post by Severncider on Jan 3, 2016 9:32:26 GMT
All the Gasheads around me were pleading with the ref not to send off their player as our record against ten men is not that good.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 3, 2016 10:22:44 GMT
Saw the incident on the screen in the clubhouse after "clear red" as it was deliberate, he looked for him then used his elbow.
Ollie Clarke's goal correctly ruled out for interference from the Ginger Beast, his first goal was Lambertesque in the way he dispatched with power.
All in all a well deserved victory, for all there experience Luton like Orient posed very little goal threat!
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Post by ards72 on Jan 3, 2016 10:24:55 GMT
When he jumped his arm was straight and wide. Peopl who attempt to elbow bend the arm and conceal it. Correct decision by the ref in my book and I thought that Gaffney did block their defender and the goal was rightly disallowed I thought that he was the best ref we have seen this season- which I'snt saying much. The linesman was poor I have to agree on the Gaffney offside after watching the replay but from where I was stood in the West Enclosure it looked a definate elbow , I'm not sure that he had even jumped ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 10:29:17 GMT
I saw it as a deliberate elbow, as far as I am concerned deliberate use of the elbow is a red card offence.If it wasn't intentional surely it was not a free kick. That sh**ty Luton team handled the ball several times and didn't receive any additional yellows, not sure what that is all about? Also Gaffney was clearly coming back from an offside position when Clarke had his goal disallowed, which the crap lino suggested, but as the ball was played straight to Clarke how on earth Gaffney was active/interfering with play, is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 10:34:41 GMT
If he used an elbow, then he cannot be booked. Has to be a red. The ref obviously saw it but he completely bottled it.
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Post by ards72 on Jan 3, 2016 10:39:39 GMT
I saw it as a deliberate elbow, as far as I am concerned deliberate use of the elbow is a red card offence.If it wasn't intentional surely it was not a free kick. That sh**ty Luton team handled the ball several times and didn't receive any additional yellows, not sure what that is all about? Also Gaffney was clearly coming back from an offside position when Clarke had his goal disallowed, which the crap lino suggested, but as the ball was played straight to Clarke how on earth Gaffney was active/interfering with play, is beyond me. I thought the same at the time but if you watch the replay Gaffney coming back from an offside position blocked a defender who may well of got a challenge in on Clarke |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 10:47:16 GMT
I saw it as a deliberate elbow, as far as I am concerned deliberate use of the elbow is a red card offence.If it wasn't intentional surely it was not a free kick. That sh**ty Luton team handled the ball several times and didn't receive any additional yellows, not sure what that is all about? Also Gaffney was clearly coming back from an offside position when Clarke had his goal disallowed, which the crap lino suggested, but as the ball was played straight to Clarke how on earth Gaffney was active/interfering with play, is beyond me. I thought the same at the time but if you watch the replay Gaffney coming back from an offside position blocked a defender who may well of got a challenge in on Clarke Wstch the video and the useless lino clearly suggests he was coming back from an offside position. He did block their guy, but that I dont think that was the reason for the award of a free kick. |
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Post by ards72 on Jan 3, 2016 11:00:14 GMT
I thought the same at the time but if you watch the replay Gaffney coming back from an offside position blocked a defender who may well of got a challenge in on Clarke Wstch the video and the useless lino clearly suggests he was coming back from an offside position. He did block their guy, but that I dont think that was the reason for the award of a free kick. He would have to give that signal to indicate to the referee that he was giving the offside against Gaffney and not Clarke |
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Post by oddsongas on Jan 3, 2016 11:03:16 GMT
I thought the same at the time but if you watch the replay Gaffney coming back from an offside position blocked a defender who may well of got a challenge in on Clarke Wstch the video and the useless lino clearly suggests he was coming back from an offside position. He did block their guy, but that I dont think that was the reason for the award of a free kick. But with the new laws, when he came back from an offside position, he then blocked the defender which meant he was interfering with play, so the correct decision  |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 3, 2016 11:17:05 GMT
When he jumped his arm was straight and wide. Peopl who attempt to elbow bend the arm and conceal it. Correct decision by the ref in my book and I thought that Gaffney did block their defender and the goal was rightly disallowed I thought that he was the best ref we have seen this season- which I'snt saying much. The linesman was poor Wasn't the correct decision whatever IMO. It's either a free kick and red or no free kick at all. The ref bottled it with a half way decision. |
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Post by rambo on Jan 3, 2016 11:18:49 GMT
Elbows are often very difficult things to pick up on in games when it comes about from a jump for the ball. I did think this one was an elbow as we had a fairly good view of it from the Blackthorn.
However, whether we think it was or wasn't, surely by definition, it had to be one of two things:
1) An elbow - free kick + red card
2) A fair challenge for the ball - no free kick or card
How he can give a yellow and a free kick is beyond me. It's either an elbow or it's not!
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jan 3, 2016 11:29:15 GMT
Noting to see here - CUTHBERT ELISHA on the other hand can elbow me whenever she likes...... .  |
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Post by beaver132 on Jan 3, 2016 12:19:20 GMT
Read this expecting Cuthbert Elbow to be our new signing!
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Post by Strange Gas on Jan 3, 2016 12:40:27 GMT
Nailed on red in extended highlights on gasplayer. Elbow goes in, Taylor falls to ground (bit dramatically) then he jumps for ball
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Post by phillistine on Jan 3, 2016 12:54:15 GMT
If the ref gave the the foul for the deliberate use of an elbow then in my book it's a red, I thought that the ref booked him for dangerous play in the way that a player gets booked for raising his foot too high. I agree that if the red saw it as a deliberate elbow then he should send him off. Still haven't seen the replay so cant comment |
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