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Post by oldgas on Feb 29, 2016 14:05:24 GMT
As regards the new stadium, I think it's important Wael lets fans know exactly what he's thinking/planning shortly after the appeal decision is known. Most people's patience with the stadium project is wearing thin after all these years, so if we're all left in the dark for too long - with only non-specific phrases like "it's a requirement" being heard - I suspect optimism levels will fall quite rapidly. At the moment he's not done anything wrong and he's saying all the right things, so I'm going to stay positive! i will be very surprised if we know anything anytime soon regards the UWE Have to say I agree with you Henbury. Up to now the new owners have been non-specific about UWE or indeed any other option with regards a new home. Maybe 50 years of supporting Rovers has lowered my expectations to an appropriate level,but I am enough of a realist to bide my time and not get over-excited. Perhaps your man on the inside has given you some more specific hints on progress?
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 29, 2016 14:05:54 GMT
I think its safe to say that our debts have been wiped away, yes. The court case with sainsbury's is no longer relevant, so again I think its safe to say that The UWE will be built regardless of the courts decision. Mr Al-Qadi also said that the stadium may have a bigger capacity than originally planned.i have my doubts he would like to change a few things which may require new planning and that is not a given these days I thought the original plans were that it could be increased to 25,000 then 33,000. I thought they said we wouldn't need planning for 25,000 as it was included and just adding seats. 33,000 was another tier, so would probably need planning.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 29, 2016 14:24:53 GMT
As regards the new stadium, I think it's important Wael lets fans know exactly what he's thinking/planning shortly after the appeal decision is known. Most people's patience with the stadium project is wearing thin after all these years, so if we're all left in the dark for too long - with only non-specific phrases like "it's a requirement" being heard - I suspect optimism levels will fall quite rapidly. At the moment he's not done anything wrong and he's saying all the right things, so I'm going to stay positive! i will be very surprised if we know anything anytime soon regards the UWE I bloody hope you're wrong . Having waited yrs and yrs and yrs and being told to be patient countless times I just want the bloody thing built. We've got a site , planning permission and he's got the money (?) , so let's get on with it and start season 2017 in our new stadium. sod waiting any longer I've waited 40 yrs thanks .
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 29, 2016 14:29:51 GMT
i will be very surprised if we know anything anytime soon regards the UWE I bloody hope you're wrong . Having waited yrs and yrs and yrs and being told to be patient countless times I just want the bloody thing built. We've got a site , planning permission and he's got the money (?) , so let's get on with it and start season 2017 in our new stadium. sod waiting any longer I've waited 40 yrs thanks . I'd rather wait and do it properly. Seems a bit of a shame to arse about for 40 yrs and then go off half-cocked, when we can wait, say, another year or two and get it exactly right.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 29, 2016 14:31:51 GMT
I bloody hope you're wrong . Having waited yrs and yrs and yrs and being told to be patient countless times I just want the bloody thing built. We've got a site , planning permission and he's got the money (?) , so let's get on with it and start season 2017 in our new stadium. sod waiting any longer I've waited 40 yrs thanks . I'd rather wait and do it properly. Seems a bit of a shame to arse about for 40 yrs and then go off half-cocked, when we can wait, say, another year or two and get it exactly right. I'm struggling to think what is wrong with it ? It doesn't look half-crocked to me .
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 29, 2016 14:35:09 GMT
I'd rather wait and do it properly. Seems a bit of a shame to arse about for 40 yrs and then go off half-cocked, when we can wait, say, another year or two and get it exactly right. I'm struggling to think what is wrong with it ? It doesn't look half-crocked to me . I don't see anything wrong with it, either, but if they think they can do better, then they should do it, imo. There's nothing wrong with a three-bed semi in Barr's Court, but I'd rather have a four-bed detached in Downend*. *Not necessarily, but just for a quick analogy.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 29, 2016 14:39:46 GMT
i will be very surprised if we know anything anytime soon regards the UWE I bloody hope you're wrong . Having waited yrs and yrs and yrs and being told to be patient countless times I just want the bloody thing built. We've got a site , planning permission and he's got the money (?) , so let's get on with it and start season 2017 in our new stadium. sod waiting any longer I've waited 40 yrs thanks . Remember these guys got rich for being very clever at what they do - Make Money So if it's possible to build a stadium for £10m less but take a bit longer, and may require a change in planning, they are going to do it He said they are in no rush to "BUILD" the club so an extra few years to them makes no difference !
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 29, 2016 14:40:51 GMT
i will be very surprised if we know anything anytime soon regards the UWE Have to say I agree with you Henbury. Up to now the new owners have been non-specific about UWE or indeed any other option with regards a new home. Maybe 50 years of supporting Rovers has lowered my expectations to an appropriate level,but I am enough of a realist to bide my time and not get over-excited. Perhaps your man on the inside has given you some more specific hints on progress?Nothing to report at this stage...
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 29, 2016 14:43:48 GMT
I remember not so long ago on here people could not figure out how to make money at the UWE pre takeover..
Perhaps these guys can see that and now want to review & better the project
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 29, 2016 15:39:51 GMT
I remember not so long ago on here people could not figure out how to make money at the UWE pre takeover.. Perhaps these guys can see that and now want to review & better the project But we also thought nobody would be daft enought to buy out NH, that shows what we all known
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Post by Quartermaster on Feb 29, 2016 20:33:26 GMT
Great to see that Wael is highly impressed with Manchester City's youth set up and he has said that is one thing that he would really like to improve. It really does look like he is in it for the long haul. Also he wants to improve our links with clubs abroad, bringing players in and maybe even sending players out on loan abroad to develope there game. Every time I see an article with him, I am more impressed. If he delivers half as a good as he talks, we are going to be in for some great times. As much as i agree with what he is saying, at no point in any interview has he said he will put money into the club, just he wants the club to be self funding. True, he hasn't stated he will put money into the club, but everything he has suggested he wants will cost money ie stadium, academy etc... What he has said is that he won't throw money at us. All fine with me, prefer the 'steady growth' idea. I know they're in a different league to us, but I see Everton's new owners have already set a target of the Champions League... Slow and steady Wael every time for me!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 21:17:12 GMT
More guesswork. There's a hearing/decision yet right? Just maybe any news depends on that atm?
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 29, 2016 21:23:20 GMT
More guesswork. There's a hearing/decision yet right? Just maybe any news depends on that atm? Hamer's already said the development doesn't rely upon winning the Appeal, plus would NH really sell up if he still thought there was any prospect of £30m heading our way???
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Post by empirebaypete on Feb 29, 2016 23:13:52 GMT
If he wants to tie with a club in Australia I have one in mind. The Mariners Centre of Excellence is the best training facilities in Australia. Shame about the team. Apply in writing to CEO & owner, Mike Charlesworth, currently residing in England.
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Post by youmadethatup on Mar 1, 2016 0:19:36 GMT
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 1, 2016 6:53:19 GMT
More guesswork. There's a hearing/decision yet right? Just maybe any news depends on that atm? Hamer's already said the development doesn't rely upon winning the Appeal, plus would NH really sell up if he still thought there was any prospect of £30m heading our way??? Despite that comment I'm sure they said that they would wait for the court case outcome first.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 1, 2016 7:10:03 GMT
I think that it's fair to say that the new owners will probably re-examine the entire project now.
The previous board could only play the cards they were dealt and negotiated accordingly. They would look at how much investment they could raise and how this would be sustainable for Rovers. They would be restricted by the financial constraints that we all have.
The new owners are in a different league and will be able to fund a much bigger project if it stacks up financially. They will have a longer term view of where they want the club to be and I suspect that they will want control of their own destiny by owning the land freehold. This project will be about so much more than 26 matches a season.
Using the analogy referred to earlier, there is no point in buying a plot of land for a 3 bed roomed house if you know that in 5 years time you will need something much bigger
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 1, 2016 7:29:22 GMT
I think that it's fair to say that the new owners will probably re-examine the entire project now. The previous board could only play the cards they were dealt and negotiated accordingly. They would look at how much investment they could raise and how this would be sustainable for Rovers. They would be restricted by the financial constraints that we all have. The new owners are in a different league and will be able to fund a much bigger project if it stacks up financially. They will have a longer term view of where they want the club to be and I suspect that they will want control of their own destiny by owning the land freehold. This project will be about so much more than 26 matches a season. Using the analogy referred to earlier, there is no point in buying a plot of land for a 3 bed roomed house if you know that in 5 years time you will need something much bigger But ultimately uwe can be extended to 35k, no matter how much success wael brings we are never going to need more than that, there aren't many sites in Bristol or the surrounding area big enough and with the infrastructure for a stadium and we all know how difficult it is to get pp in this city!
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 1, 2016 8:05:39 GMT
I think that it's fair to say that the new owners will probably re-examine the entire project now. The previous board could only play the cards they were dealt and negotiated accordingly. They would look at how much investment they could raise and how this would be sustainable for Rovers. They would be restricted by the financial constraints that we all have. The new owners are in a different league and will be able to fund a much bigger project if it stacks up financially. They will have a longer term view of where they want the club to be and I suspect that they will want control of their own destiny by owning the land freehold. This project will be about so much more than 26 matches a season. Using the analogy referred to earlier, there is no point in buying a plot of land for a 3 bed roomed house if you know that in 5 years time you will need something much bigger But ultimately uwe can be extended to 35k, no matter how much success wael brings we are never going to need more than that, there aren't many sites in Bristol or the surrounding area big enough and with the infrastructure for a stadium and we all know how difficult it is to get pp in this city! Agree with this. Some people are saying the owner is wealthy so we are now in a stronger position to negotiate. Maybe that's true to a very small degree in that we're no longer desperate, but it doesn't change the fact that UWE have the perfect plot of land we need so can't go messing them around too much or risk them saying sod it we're off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 8:17:03 GMT
Look:
If you had money, you would evaluate all options, but bearing in mind that UWE has a significant advantage as its almost a done deal.
What is right or wrong depends on the unique circumstances of the club and the Al Qadis. They will have a team looking at the whole thing, teams of proper professionals who will get best value.
It's the same with funding the club. What kind of burk with money rushes in and announces "it's spend spend spend, prem in 3 years."?
No, if you've got a large sum of cash it's likely you are fairly shrewd with your currency. If any one of us was in Waels shoes, you would say the same as him. Evolution not revolution etc.
Most of the rhetoric I have liked and it's exactly how I, and I would imagine most fans would act and have a similar, long term goal.
We are fully owned and at the mercy of this family - that's a bad way of putting it but we have no real influence and just have to trust they are doing the right thing.
With all due respect, whilst the previous team were loyal fans, they had a demonstrably mostly bad track record. I'm willing to just take a leap of faith here.
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