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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 1, 2016 8:36:02 GMT
But ultimately uwe can be extended to 35k, no matter how much success wael brings we are never going to need more than that, there aren't many sites in Bristol or the surrounding area big enough and with the infrastructure for a stadium and we all know how difficult it is to get pp in this city! Agree with this. Some people are saying the owner is wealthy so we are now in a stronger position to negotiate. Maybe that's true to a very small degree in that we're no longer desperate, but it doesn't change the fact that UWE have the perfect plot of land we need so can't go messing them around too much or risk them saying sod it we're off. But if UWE want £11m as report previously, that is just taking the Wee for such a small site
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 1, 2016 8:55:18 GMT
But ultimately uwe can be extended to 35k, no matter how much success wael brings we are never going to need more than that, there aren't many sites in Bristol or the surrounding area big enough and with the infrastructure for a stadium and we all know how difficult it is to get pp in this city! Agree with this. Some people are saying the owner is wealthy so we are now in a stronger position to negotiate. Maybe that's true to a very small degree in that we're no longer desperate, but it doesn't change the fact that UWE have the perfect plot of land we need so can't go messing them around too much or risk them saying sod it we're off. But that plays both ways UWE want the prestige the stadium will bring to the uni so they won't want to now lose that oppertunity, plus instead of having a poorly run & financed Div 2 club they could, potentially, have a v. well run & financed Championship, or better, club using the stadium, it seems they might have also landed on thier feet with takeover? Perhaps those two strips of lands WAQ indentified are needed for a bigger stadium complex rather than just for commerical useage, we assumed, as shown in the present plans?
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Post by phillistine on Mar 1, 2016 9:06:33 GMT
Agree with this. Some people are saying the owner is wealthy so we are now in a stronger position to negotiate. Maybe that's true to a very small degree in that we're no longer desperate, but it doesn't change the fact that UWE have the perfect plot of land we need so can't go messing them around too much or risk them saying sod it we're off. But that plays both ways UWE want the prestige the stadium will bring to the uni so they won't want to now lose that oppertunity, plus instead of having a poorly run & financed Div 2 club they could, potentially, have a v. well run & financed Championship, or better, club using the stadium, it seems they might have also landed on thier feet with takeover? Perhaps those two strips of lands WAQ indentified are needed for a bigger stadium complex rather than just for commerical useage, we assumed, as shown in the present plans? You are all looking at this as a football stadium without thinking wider. If you have been to stadium MK Dons you will see that they have built a hotel and function suite into the side of that stadium with huge car parking facilities. If you go to Cardiff they have a full exhibition site under the main stand and once again there is ample free parking. Bristol doesnt have a big conference centre and yet it is one of the biggest Financial centres in the UK . Birmingham has the NEC and the International Convention Centre , Manchester has the Arena which are way bigger than anything that Bristol offers. There is a new arena being built at Temple Meads but i would put a pound to a penny that our new guy - with his expertise in hotels and tourism has an eye on the massive potential for making the UWE site so much more than a footie stadium. This is the only way that it will stack up and under FFP rules they could build a larger company that funds better players.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 1, 2016 9:18:09 GMT
There is provision for a hotel in the UWE development plans on the slice of land directly opposite the stadium. Presumably there was no point building it until the stadium is built. No idea whether UWE have agreements in place in that regard, but istm the Al Qadis would be an ideal backer for that project, too.
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Post by Langford Gas on Mar 1, 2016 9:55:36 GMT
Agree with this. Some people are saying the owner is wealthy so we are now in a stronger position to negotiate. Maybe that's true to a very small degree in that we're no longer desperate, but it doesn't change the fact that UWE have the perfect plot of land we need so can't go messing them around too much or risk them saying sod it we're off. But if UWE want £11m as report previously, that is just taking the Wee for such a small site Bit like expecting 30M for the Mem
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 1, 2016 10:14:58 GMT
Look: If you had money, you would evaluate all options, but bearing in mind that UWE has a significant advantage as its almost a done deal. What is right or wrong depends on the unique circumstances of the club and the Al Qadis. They will have a team looking at the whole thing, teams of proper professionals who will get best value. It's the same with funding the club. What kind of burk with money rushes in and announces "it's spend spend spend, prem in 3 years."? No, if you've got a large sum of cash it's likely you are fairly shrewd with your currency. If any one of us was in Waels shoes, you would say the same as him. Evolution not revolution etc. Most of the rhetoric I have liked and it's exactly how I, and I would imagine most fans would act and have a similar, long term goal. We are fully owned and at the mercy of this family - that's a bad way of putting it but we have no real influence and just have to trust they are doing the right thing. With all due respect, whilst the previous team were loyal fans, they had a demonstrably mostly bad track record. I'm willing to just take a leap of faith here. Logged in just to say how good this post is.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 1, 2016 10:22:15 GMT
as a general comment, I know that we will all bitch about parking, transport links, pubs, seats etc when the UWE (or whatever...) is built, because that's what humans do with a big change in life, BUT overall I can't think of a better place than the UWE. I'm sure there will be some niggles, but there can't be many other places in Bristol / South Glos with, 1 - a decent sized train station a short walk away [being selfish, there is a DIRECT line from wiltshire and Bath to Abbey Wood, which will help many exiles and may even tempt a few fans in the Bath area back after we left Twerton], 2 - a larger station not a million miles away, 3 - lots of car parking already on site, plus another to be build as part of the deal, and other businesses in the area that have car parks that will be empty on sat pm / evenings, 4 - on existing bus routes, 5 - just off a main dual carriageway, 6 - close to three major motorways.
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Post by Langford Gas on Mar 1, 2016 10:28:07 GMT
as a general comment, I know that we will all bitch about parking, transport links, pubs, seats etc when the UWE (or whatever...) is built, because that's what humans do with a big change in life, BUT overall I can't think of a better place than the UWE. I'm sure there will be some niggles, but there can't be many other places in Bristol / South Glos with, 1 - a decent sized train station a short walk away [being selfish, there is a DIRECT line from wiltshire and Bath to Abbey Wood, which will help many exiles and may even tempt a few fans in the Bath area back after we left Twerton], 2 - a larger station not a million miles away, 3 - lots of car parking already on site, plus another to be build as part of the deal, and other businesses in the area that have car parks that will be empty on sat pm / evenings, 4 - on existing bus routes, 5 - just off a main dual carriageway, 6 - close to three major motorways. Wasn't there also talk of a north Bristol light railway being part of the overall redevelopment of the area, and the stadium I was of the impression key to that investment hence the MP getting it raised in the House with the Prime Minister ? please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick here
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 1, 2016 11:03:31 GMT
Wasn't there also talk of a north Bristol light railway being part of the overall redevelopment of the area, and the stadium I was of the impression key to that investment hence the MP getting it raised in the House with the Prime Minister ? please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick here Yeah, but that's already been rejected, afaik. www.bristolpost.co.uk/Henbury-Loop-rail-line-dropped-favour-spur/story-26862774-detail/story.htmlAlthough, be careful coz Henbury Gas gets all excited when you talk about Charlotte Leslie being desperate for a Henbury Loop.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 1, 2016 11:19:04 GMT
If he wants to tie with a club in Australia I have one in mind. The Mariners Centre of Excellence is the best training facilities in Australia. Shame about the team. Apply in writing to CEO & owner, Mike Charlesworth, currently residing in England. Is that anything to do with the Gold Coast Mariners FC? Saw them at Christmas play Sydney FC and get well beaten 1-4. Not the best of matches but OK.
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Post by Langford Gas on Mar 1, 2016 11:38:01 GMT
Wasn't there also talk of a north Bristol light railway being part of the overall redevelopment of the area, and the stadium I was of the impression key to that investment hence the MP getting it raised in the House with the Prime Minister ? please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick here Yeah, but that's already been rejected, afaik. www.bristolpost.co.uk/Henbury-Loop-rail-line-dropped-favour-spur/story-26862774-detail/story.htmlAlthough, be careful coz Henbury Gas gets all excited when you talk about Charlotte Leslie being desperate for a Henbury Loop. Probably why she has gone quiet then ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 1, 2016 13:09:25 GMT
No wonder DC's getting a bit edgy if he's read these comments? We are going to do some reshuffling … We are going to equip the club with the right people and restructure the club properly so that it functions better.” He also said part of his plans was to provide Jordanian and even Arab players with a chance to develop their football skills. “This is very positive for Jordan because this vehicle can be used for Jordanian boys to improve and become professional players as well.”
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Post by youmadethatup on Mar 1, 2016 16:27:31 GMT
No wonder DC's getting a bit edgy if he's read these comments? We are going to do some reshuffling … We are going to equip the club with the right people and restructure the club properly so that it functions better.” He also said part of his plans was to provide Jordanian and even Arab players with a chance to develop their football skills. “This is very positive for Jordan because this vehicle can be used for Jordanian boys to improve and become professional players as well.” This restructure and equip may have already started/taken place ,as you recall several people have been appointed at the club to handle finance,commercial,stadium etc These are things that need sorting and planning out before even thinking about the playing side of the club. I am also guessing the new stadium will have naming rights ,which is where I suspect a nice chunk of money will arrive towards the stadium rebuild or the new academy. Royal Jordan airlines perhaps ?
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Post by empirebaypete on Mar 1, 2016 20:37:10 GMT
If he wants to tie with a club in Australia I have one in mind. The Mariners Centre of Excellence is the best training facilities in Australia. Shame about the team. Apply in writing to CEO & owner, Mike Charlesworth, currently residing in England. Is that anything to do with the Gold Coast Mariners FC? Saw them at Christmas play Sydney FC and get well beaten 1-4. Not the best of matches but OK. Central Coast Mariners. Central Coast is just north of Sydney. We're having our worst year ever. We've over achieved for years so we're not used to losing all the time.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 1, 2016 21:27:13 GMT
No wonder DC's getting a bit edgy if he's read these comments? We are going to do some reshuffling … We are going to equip the club with the right people and restructure the club properly so that it functions better.” He also said part of his plans was to provide Jordanian and even Arab players with a chance to develop their football skills. “This is very positive for Jordan because this vehicle can be used for Jordanian boys to improve and become professional players as well.” This restructure and equip may have already started/taken place ,as you recall several people have been appointed at the club to handle finance,commercial,stadium etc These are things that need sorting and planning out before even thinking about the playing side of the club. I am also guessing the new stadium will have naming rights ,which is where I suspect a nice chunk of money will arrive towards the stadium rebuild or the new academy. Royal Jordan airlines perhaps ? Keith Brookman confirmed to night he's met new director Lee Atkins today plus another new name, Mike Cunny, who apparently worked on the new Wembley stadium build!, and a meeting took place with today with the UWE, he also inferred the Appeal verdict doesn't seem to matter any longer. There's also a new scout to assist DC & SY but I didn't catch his name. As far as naming rights, unless a deal can be agreed with the UWE then it's going to be called the UWE Stadium?
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 1, 2016 22:57:40 GMT
Is that anything to do with the Gold Coast Mariners FC? Saw them at Christmas play Sydney FC and get well beaten 1-4. Not the best of matches but OK. Central Coast Mariners. Central Coast is just north of Sydney. We're having our worst year ever. We've over achieved for years so we're not used to losing all the time. Apologies for getting name wrong. Play in yellow? Saw them at the Allianz Stadium, good evening out.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 1, 2016 23:25:18 GMT
This restructure and equip may have already started/taken place ,as you recall several people have been appointed at the club to handle finance,commercial,stadium etc These are things that need sorting and planning out before even thinking about the playing side of the club. I am also guessing the new stadium will have naming rights ,which is where I suspect a nice chunk of money will arrive towards the stadium rebuild or the new academy. Royal Jordan airlines perhaps ? Keith Brookman confirmed to night he's met new director Lee Atkins today plus another new name, Mike Cunny, who apparently worked on the new Wembley stadium build!, and a meeting took place with today with the UWE, he also inferred the Appeal verdict doesn't seem to matter any longer. There's also a new scout to assist DC & SY but I didn't catch his name. As far as naming rights, unless a deal can be agreed with the UWE then it's going to be called the UWE Stadium? Must admit i wasn't expecting wael at the game tonight, sounds like he's trying to seal the stadium deal. All sounds very encouraging and i wouldn't be surprised to see work start very soon.
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 1, 2016 23:34:26 GMT
Look: If you had money, you would evaluate all options, but bearing in mind that UWE has a significant advantage as its almost a done deal. What is right or wrong depends on the unique circumstances of the club and the Al Qadis. They will have a team looking at the whole thing, teams of proper professionals who will get best value. It's the same with funding the club. What kind of burk with money rushes in and announces "it's spend spend spend, prem in 3 years."? No, if you've got a large sum of cash it's likely you are fairly shrewd with your currency. If any one of us was in Waels shoes, you would say the same as him. Evolution not revolution etc. Most of the rhetoric I have liked and it's exactly how I, and I would imagine most fans would act and have a similar, long term goal. We are fully owned and at the mercy of this family - that's a bad way of putting it but we have no real influence and just have to trust they are doing the right thing. With all due respect, whilst the previous team were loyal fans, they had a demonstrably mostly bad track record. I'm willing to just take a leap of faith here. Agree 100%
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 2, 2016 7:30:00 GMT
Wasn't there also talk of a north Bristol light railway being part of the overall redevelopment of the area, and the stadium I was of the impression key to that investment hence the MP getting it raised in the House with the Prime Minister ? please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick here Yeah, but that's already been rejected, afaik. www.bristolpost.co.uk/Henbury-Loop-rail-line-dropped-favour-spur/story-26862774-detail/story.htmlAlthough, be careful coz Henbury Gas gets all excited when you talk about Charlotte Leslie being desperate for a Henbury Loop. Charlotte confirmed to me that the Henbury "Loop" line is being built but it won't be a loop anymore because our friends down at Avonmouth Docks won't pay for the upgrade on their land.... the planned date though has been put back a few years.... Also i understand that a grant to the EU have been applied for...
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 2, 2016 9:07:17 GMT
Charlotte confirmed to me that the Henbury "Loop" line is being built but it won't be a loop anymore because our friends down at Avonmouth Docks won't pay for the upgrade on their land.... the planned date though has been put back a few years.... Also i understand that a grant to the EU have been applied for... Brexit might kill that funding then!
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