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Post by phillistine on Mar 2, 2016 16:36:45 GMT
that last night we had 6 players on the pitch over 30. This seems a little different from DC's stance at the beginning of last season when he wouldnt sign anyone over about the age of 25.
Times - they are a changing!!
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 2, 2016 17:24:41 GMT
Think he means we won't sign anyone over 25 unless it's a free transfer.
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 2, 2016 17:35:30 GMT
And a short contract, not 3 year deals
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Post by markczgas on Mar 2, 2016 22:10:22 GMT
that last night we had 6 players on the pitch over 30. This seems a little different from DC's stance at the beginning of last season when he wouldnt sign anyone over about the age of 25. Times - they are a changing!! Well spotted ! Don't think we are going to see any Lockyers or Harrisons coming through youth ranks for a while (my opinion) sadly. Hopefully Wael will keep his promise and get stuck in to the youth set up (coaches, pitches etc ) - bring back Ken Oram !! Perhaps, with a bit cash we can do something similar to Peterborough and sign promising, youngish Conf/L2 players and develop them. I certainly would rather do that than get in more Easters and Lawrences - as you noted we have enough older heads now. |
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 2, 2016 22:12:20 GMT
that last night we had 6 players on the pitch over 30. This seems a little different from DC's stance at the beginning of last season when he wouldnt sign anyone over about the age of 25. Times - they are a changing!! Well spotted ! Don't think we are going to see any Lockyers or Harrisons coming through youth ranks for a while (my opinion) sadly. Hopefully Wael will keep his promise and get stuck in to the youth set up (coaches, pitches etc ) - bring back Ken Oram !! Perhaps, with a bit cash we can do something similar to Peterborough and sign promising, youngish Conf/L2 players and develop them. I certainly would rather do that than get in more Easters and Lawrences - as you noted we have enough older heads now. Lucas could just be as good as Harrison, or better given time. Broom, greenslade etc we have a lot coming through recently who could definitely make it |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 2, 2016 22:20:42 GMT
that last night we had 6 players on the pitch over 30. This seems a little different from DC's stance at the beginning of last season when he wouldnt sign anyone over about the age of 25. Times - they are a changing!! Perhaps that's out of need rather than choice as I assume he'd sooner play Parkes & Sinclair but for one reason or another couldn't? Although the signing of Lines & Easter last season was the start of the change. all part of the learning cycle I guess. |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 2, 2016 22:21:28 GMT
Well spotted ! Don't think we are going to see any Lockyers or Harrisons coming through youth ranks for a while (my opinion) sadly. Hopefully Wael will keep his promise and get stuck in to the youth set up (coaches, pitches etc ) - bring back Ken Oram !! Perhaps, with a bit cash we can do something similar to Peterborough and sign promising, youngish Conf/L2 players and develop them. I certainly would rather do that than get in more Easters and Lawrences - as you noted we have enough older heads now. Lucas could just be as good as Harrison, or better given time. Broom, greenslade etc we have a lot coming through recently who could definitely make it Hope you are right but remember we are now a L2 team challenging for L1. I was very impressed with Lucas and Broom at U18 level but they don't even make the bench - so probably they aren't quite the standard !? Harrison has been a disappointment in my view but he's done ok at Conf/L2 level. |
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 2, 2016 22:26:09 GMT
Lucas could just be as good as Harrison, or better given time. Broom, greenslade etc we have a lot coming through recently who could definitely make it Hope you are right but remember we are now a L2 team challenging for L1. I was very impressed with Lucas and Broom at U18 level but they don't even make the bench - so probably they aren't quite the standard !? Harrison has been a disappointment in my view but he's done ok at Conf/L2 level. I think DC is bring them in slowly which I thinks the correct step. And Harrison was good last season, but haven't seen anything from him in L2. Did you see him yesterday? Looked lost |
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 2, 2016 22:29:55 GMT
Yes, the better the team becomes the higher the bar for youngsters is set. When in the Conference although a good standard we now need a better standard at the top of League 2. Were we to get promotion the bar becomes even higher and harder for them to get in the team. But the youngsters mentioned have been around for a while so they will need to grasp the chance.
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Post by derricktrotter on Mar 2, 2016 23:27:15 GMT
Hope you are right but remember we are now a L2 team challenging for L1. I was very impressed with Lucas and Broom at U18 level but they don't even make the bench - so probably they aren't quite the standard !? Harrison has been a disappointment in my view but he's done ok at Conf/L2 level. I think DC is bring them in slowly which I thinks the correct step. And Harrison was good last season, but haven't seen anything from him in L2. Did you see him yesterday? Looked lost Gordon Bennett we know the lad can't cut it in this league, he couldn't last time we were here. |
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Post by supergas on Mar 3, 2016 1:18:10 GMT
that last night we had 6 players on the pitch over 30. This seems a little different from DC's stance at the beginning of last season when he wouldnt sign anyone over about the age of 25. Times - they are a changing!! If they're good enough they're young enough....or something like that.... |
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Post by philbemmygas on Mar 3, 2016 7:40:39 GMT
We are at a stage of the season where experience will help the team cope with the pressures going forward, DC proved his worth last season when he brought in Jermaine Easter and Chris Lines to get us to the brink of automatic promotion.
Don't over analyze the balance of the team at this juncture of the season, there is a decent crop of youngsters on the fringe of the match day squad who will get opportunities going forwards.
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Mar 3, 2016 8:25:56 GMT
I'm happy with the rate of youth coming into the first team.
We don't want to over do it like Crewe have IMO - They haven't been that successful over the past 10 years and have lost a lot of talented players when bigger teams come knocking. Apart from balancing the books from transfer fee's they haven't seen much benefit from a strong youth system.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 9:43:49 GMT
I'm happy with the rate of youth coming into the first team. We don't want to over do it like Crewe have IMO - They haven't been that successful over the past 10 years and have lost a lot of talented players when bigger teams come knocking. Apart from balancing the books from transfer fee's they haven't seen much benefit from a strong youth system. A team needs experience and youth - like virtually any business you care to imagine. The benefit of youth is you control your supplier - ie you are always at a disadvantage when buying in talent. At least with a strong set up, you can choose whether you sell to a certain extent, the issue isn't with youth, it's with the buy and sell policy. |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 3, 2016 11:11:37 GMT
I'm happy with the rate of youth coming into the first team. We don't want to over do it like Crewe have IMO - They haven't been that successful over the past 10 years and have lost a lot of talented players when bigger teams come knocking. Apart from balancing the books from transfer fee's they haven't seen much benefit from a strong youth system. Are you sure ? do you know how many of their youth products are in first team squad and they have been playing at a higher level the last few seasons ! |
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Post by philbemmygas on Mar 3, 2016 12:47:32 GMT
I'm happy with the rate of youth coming into the first team. We don't want to over do it like Crewe have IMO - They haven't been that successful over the past 10 years and have lost a lot of talented players when bigger teams come knocking. Apart from balancing the books from transfer fee's they haven't seen much benefit from a strong youth system. A team needs experience and youth - like virtually any business you care to imagine. The benefit of youth is you control your supplier - ie you are always at a disadvantage when buying in talent. At least with a strong set up, you can choose whether you sell to a certain extent, the issue isn't with youth, it's with the buy and sell policy. Alas the buy/sell policy with youngsters was decided by the F.A. rule change the other season, and going back even further then Bosman ruling  |
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