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Post by hargravegas on Mar 6, 2016 18:43:07 GMT
It used to be just the Sh!te that got on the managers & teams backs when things wernet going well, now sadly we do it as well, its a whole of society thing, listening to people like Adrian Durham on Talk Sport its all expectation, no real loyalty & realism sadly. DC said Taylor would have a dry spell, he did, now scored again, but even if he hits 20 for the season he will be slated on here (by more than just T Bone!) when he hasnt scored in 3.
Not a Bristol disease, but does spoil enjoyment of matches / supporting the team, compared with the old days!!! =;-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 19:05:16 GMT
Those clubs you listed,the fans have a Devine right to vent anger at the owners after donkeys years of mismanagement and calamities. The Rovers only have to lose a game,still be in the play offs and supporters are venting their bile at Darrel Clarke. And this after being taken over by a very rich man who has publicly stated his intentions. There is no comparison in my eyes. Then open them young man They are wide open that is why I have stated what I believe. Do a bit of research,although it is general knowledge,and you will see what you have stated with those clubs as a comparison is a million miles from Rovers as a club over the years. Just do a bit of research and if you genuinely believe we are comparable to those clubs,with what they have had to put up with, I will agree to disagree. No problem!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 19:07:33 GMT
Those clubs you listed,the fans have a Devine right to vent anger at the owners after donkeys years of mismanagement and calamities. The Rovers only have to lose a game,still be in the play offs and supporters are venting their bile at Darrel Clarke. And this after being taken over by a very rich man who has publicly stated his intentions. There is no comparison in my eyes. I know that our fans can be a bit bipolar but it's important not to overstate. I don't think there were many fans venting bile at DC after Wycombe. A very small minority, maybe, of which there are a small handful who post on this board. Was going to post the same,it was a very small minority who went overboard. Nothing wrong with criticising a particular performance,like the one at Wycombe,but overall DC has been great for this club and more to come I belteve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 19:08:46 GMT
Those clubs you listed,the fans have a Devine right to vent anger at the owners after donkeys years of mismanagement and calamities. The Rovers only have to lose a game,still be in the play offs and supporters are venting their bile at Darrel Clarke. And this after being taken over by a very rich man who has publicly stated his intentions. There is no comparison in my eyes. See this is what makes me laugh on here. An exaggeration to a point of view that you may not personally agree with.
Not at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 19:50:35 GMT
Those clubs you listed,the fans have a Devine right to vent anger at the owners after donkeys years of mismanagement and calamities. The Rovers only have to lose a game,still be in the play offs and supporters are venting their bile at Darrel Clarke. And this after being taken over by a very rich man who has publicly stated his intentions. There is no comparison in my eyes. I know that our fans can be a bit bipolar but it's important not to overstate. I don't think there were many fans venting bile at DC after Wycombe. A very small minority, maybe, of which there are a small handful who post on this board. I never mentioned the Wycombe game specifically and general criticism of a performance,win,lose or draw is fine. But We all know some come to life after a loss and are never seen after a win. That is very odd behaviour from a supporter I feel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 19:52:46 GMT
I know that our fans can be a bit bipolar but it's important not to overstate. I don't think there were many fans venting bile at DC after Wycombe. A very small minority, maybe, of which there are a small handful who post on this board. Was going to post the same,it was a very small minority who went overboard. Nothing wrong with criticising a particular performance,like the one at Wycombe,but overall DC has been great for this club and more to come I belteve I never said that.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 6, 2016 20:00:14 GMT
I doubt forums/social media/phone ins etc help as you can now have a moan instantly after the match, not on a Monday morning when you get to work etc? Spot on. In today's media savvy world a large very vocal majority/minority(? Don't know which) wants to know everything there is to know about something (their football club) as soon as it has happened and will then form a view about it, either positive or negative. So many more people have a channel to express their views and so many of the views are polarised, eg everything is brilliant or everything is c***. Years ago we would wait for the Evening Post to get football news in Bristol or radio or local TV. Then we would have a shout on Sat afternoon. Now, we don't necessarily get any more news but we do get the chance to give our views in lots of different places and football has a much higher profile and managers have to have very thick skins. UTG and DC!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 20:08:53 GMT
Was going to post the same,it was a very small minority who went overboard. Nothing wrong with criticising a particular performance,like the one at Wycombe,but overall DC has been great for this club and more to come I belteve I never said that. We have only lost one game since the takeover,and you posted fans venting their bile at DC even when we have just been taken over by a very rich man,so it must be the Wycombe game,or so I assumed.
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 6, 2016 20:52:56 GMT
It used to be just the Sh!te that got on the managers & teams backs when things wernet going well, now sadly we do it as well, its a whole of society thing, listening to people like Adrian Durham on Talk Sport its all expectation, no real loyalty & realism sadly. DC said Taylor would have a dry spell, he did, now scored again, but even if he hits 20 for the season he will be slated on here (by more than just T Bone!) when he hasnt scored in 3. Not a Bristol disease, but does spoil enjoyment of matches / supporting the team, compared with the old days!!! =;-) Sadly I have to agree with you, if you cast your mind back to the morcambe match, I can recall a large part of the blackthorn end booing the team off at half time , OK fans have a right to vent their frustrations as they pay good hard earned cash to watch football but at the end of the day it's league 2 football what do you expect? Plus the weather conditions that day were bloody terrible!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2016 21:11:19 GMT
I doubt forums/social media/phone ins etc help as you can now have a moan instantly after the match, not on a Monday morning when you get to work etc? Spot on. In today's media savvy world a large very vocal majority/minority(? Don't know which) wants to know everything there is to know about something (their football club) as soon as it has happened and will then form a view about it, either positive or negative. So many more people have a channel to express their views and so many of the views are polarised, eg everything is brilliant or everything is c***. Years ago we would wait for the Evening Post to get football news in Bristol or radio or local TV. Then we would have a shout on Sat afternoon. Now, we don't necessarily get any more news but we do get the chance to give our views in lots of different places and football has a much higher profile and managers have to have very thick skins. UTG and DC!! It was the Green'un every Saturday for me, not the E Post!
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 6, 2016 21:20:42 GMT
Spot on. In today's media savvy world a large very vocal majority/minority(? Don't know which) wants to know everything there is to know about something (their football club) as soon as it has happened and will then form a view about it, either positive or negative. So many more people have a channel to express their views and so many of the views are polarised, eg everything is brilliant or everything is c***. Years ago we would wait for the Evening Post to get football news in Bristol or radio or local TV. Then we would have a shout on Sat afternoon. Now, we don't necessarily get any more news but we do get the chance to give our views in lots of different places and football has a much higher profile and managers have to have very thick skins. UTG and DC!! It was the Green'un every Saturday for me, not the E Post! I remember the green'un what year was that ?
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Post by adrian301 on Mar 6, 2016 21:33:23 GMT
I guess we do have an expectation based on our crowd size and resources to be above the Barnets and Accringtons of this world, in fact any team with less than what we've got!! If I was a Newcastle, Villa or Sunderland fan that can draw on 40,000 crowds, I would expect my team to be above Bournemouth, Watford and Leicester!! But football aint like that, but it still hurts when you lose to teams that on paper should not be beating you.
These are the pressures that DC will now face. He will have a budget better than most, and a chairman who will be expecting success.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 6, 2016 21:58:22 GMT
Spot on. In today's media savvy world a large very vocal majority/minority(? Don't know which) wants to know everything there is to know about something (their football club) as soon as it has happened and will then form a view about it, either positive or negative. So many more people have a channel to express their views and so many of the views are polarised, eg everything is brilliant or everything is c***. Years ago we would wait for the Evening Post to get football news in Bristol or radio or local TV. Then we would have a shout on Sat afternoon. Now, we don't necessarily get any more news but we do get the chance to give our views in lots of different places and football has a much higher profile and managers have to have very thick skins. UTG and DC!! It was the Green'un every Saturday for me, not the E Post! In Somerset couldn't get Green'un, only read it after home matches when I got it at Temple Meads. I know, it sounds stupid now doesn't it waiting for EP of an evening for Rovers news.
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Post by lpgas on Mar 6, 2016 22:31:51 GMT
Having lived in West London for 33 years hand on heart I can say Bristolians are well known for their moaning Perhaps that's just the impression you've given them of Bristolians? When it comes to football it's hardly surprising we've spent years moaning compared to Londoners & Mancs etc? O I don't moan, I question
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Post by socrates on Mar 6, 2016 23:03:34 GMT
It used to be just the Sh!te that got on the managers & teams backs when things wernet going well, now sadly we do it as well, its a whole of society thing, listening to people like Adrian Durham on Talk Sport its all expectation, no real loyalty & realism sadly. DC said Taylor would have a dry spell, he did, now scored again, but even if he hits 20 for the season he will be slated on here (by more than just T Bone!) when he hasnt scored in 3. Not a Bristol disease, but does spoil enjoyment of matches / supporting the team, compared with the old days!!! =;-) Sadly I have to agree with you, if you cast your mind back to the morcambe match, I can recall a large part of the blackthorn end booing the team off at half time , OK fans have a right to vent their frustrations as they pay good hard earned cash to watch football but at the end of the day it's league 2 football what do you expect? Plus the weather conditions that day were bloody terrible! [b Yeah at half time we were 1-0 down to a soft penalty and neither side had played well and there was a lot of booing. My response as ever was to look over to my left in the blackthorn were it was coming from and shout get behind them for f**ks sake. I hate booing it's not supporting but someone on here said after it was aimed towards the ref not the team , who knows ?
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 6, 2016 23:12:17 GMT
Sadly I have to agree with you, if you cast your mind back to the morcambe match, I can recall a large part of the blackthorn end booing the team off at half time , OK fans have a right to vent their frustrations as they pay good hard earned cash to watch football but at the end of the day it's league 2 football what do you expect? Plus the weather conditions that day were bloody terrible! [b Yeah at half time we were 1-0 down to a soft penalty and neither side had played well and there was a lot of booing. My response as ever was to look over to my left in the blackthorn were it was coming from and shout get behind them for f**ks sake. I hate booing it's not supporting but someone on here said after it was aimed towards the ref not the team , who knows ? It was a bit of both to be fair, at first I thought it was at the ref but then came the usual grumbles about how bad the team were , it was from a group that I don't usually see down there but it's still sh** to shout out crap like that to the players !
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Post by sircolbytit on Mar 7, 2016 12:40:49 GMT
Is it something peculiar to Bristolians, that whenever Rovers or City wobble, we think the worse and start doubting our managers. I know I do. Today, after 2 wins I'm happier!! Last week, I'm thinking does DC have what it takes to keep the promotion bid going, and if promoted will he be able to improve the team again?? Do we have a false expectation of our teams? Or are we just ambitious, and don't take lightly to losing to any other team in our division? Especially the Accringtons and Barnets? If somebody could get the stats, of how many managers of Rovers and city have had over the past 20 yrs it will be shocking!! lol I think people have less patience these days, and this coupled with a sense of entitlement (which also seems to be prevalent these days) combines to make it difficult for any manager to stay in a job for too long.
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Post by cheniesgas on Mar 7, 2016 13:25:09 GMT
Bristol disease? Certainly not. I have lived in the London area for 35 years and during the eighties, went to watch Spurs a few times as a mate of mine was able to get me in. We saw div 1 games and some European ones and every time I went, I was dumbstruck by the negative comments around me every time a Spurs player made a hint of a mistake. Growing up on the Tote End, my earliest memories are of everyone getting behind the team despite how bad we might have been. Granted Spurs supporters expect success whereas we can only dream about it in relative terms. However, whilst I do hear Rovers fans around me having a go at the team and the manager on occasions, it is nothing like what I have heard at Prem matches and long may that continue. At the same time, I note that another Gas exile mentioned that Bristolians were noted by Londoners for their moaning. I can honestly say that I have never heard that in all the time I have been living here. One thing that does always come up however, and mainly from people over forty or so, is rather negative experiences of visiting our fair city in days gone by when hooliganism was at its worst and they don't only speak about those from Trashton! Of course, I politely say that I never had any part in such a thing. Another more positive thing that Londoners associate with Bristol is a dogged kind of determination and a never say die spirit and, you might be surprised to know that quite a few people know about and like Goodnight Irene and wish that they had something similar associated with their clubs as they can see how much it means to us- Fulham fans said this to me after the 2 all draw at their place and Orient and Brentford likewise.
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Post by Briz Red on Mar 7, 2016 20:11:26 GMT
Having lived in West London for 33 years hand on heart I can say Bristolians are well known for their moaning Perhaps that's just the impression you've given them of Bristolians? When it comes to football it's hardly surprising we've spent years moaning compared to Londoners & Mancs etc? That's a good point Topper - we must be one of the last regions in England and Wales to have never experienced proper football success? North East, North West, London, West Mids, East Mids, Humberside, Yorkshire, London, South East, South Coast, South Wales, etc - clubs from those areas have all won major trophies, but the South West has been left behind...no wonder we moan!
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 7, 2016 20:38:10 GMT
Perhaps that's just the impression you've given them of Bristolians? When it comes to football it's hardly surprising we've spent years moaning compared to Londoners & Mancs etc? That's a good point Topper - we must be one of the last regions in England and Wales to have never experienced proper football success? North East, North West, London, West Mids, East Mids, Humberside, Yorkshire, London, South East, South Coast, South Wales, etc - clubs from those areas have all won major trophies, but the South West has been left behind...no wonder we moan! Have to agree with that my red friend!
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