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Post by Gastroenteritis on Mar 17, 2016 19:53:01 GMT
Why do I get the feeling the whole UWE thing is gonna drag on and on as though nothing will progress until all appeals have been exhausted.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2016 20:01:54 GMT
That's what you get if the club sends TW out to face the cameras rather than SH? I think we'll all be happy when TW's followed the old BoD out of the door?
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Post by axegas on Mar 17, 2016 20:05:08 GMT
Watola "the new regime are in London today exploring the possibility of alternative financing of the stadium". The word possibility concerns me. Seems I didn't just make it up then, still odd to me TW was sent out to face the cameras today, I thought Hamer would just have appeared and said the club is now prepared to accept the Appeal courts verdict and are now arranging alternative funding for the UWE. Hamer was at the meeting in London so couldn't be in two places at one, I found it strange the club didn't have a statement other than the watola interview and it feels like we're being left in the dark about the clubs future other than a potential appeal to the Supreme Court and a plan b which can't be revealed due to the sainsburys saga. Hopefully something is said about the clubs future soon, otherwise the endless cycle of scepticism and frustration might continue even longer than it already has.
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Post by dinsdale on Mar 17, 2016 20:08:11 GMT
Why is the guy who didn't plan for relegation, over budgeted year on year, ballsed this whole process up and who can't keep his mouth shut still involved with our great club? The old regime brought nothing but failure and misery and he should sod off with the rest of them.
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Post by toddy1953 on Mar 17, 2016 20:13:55 GMT
Couple of things. Didn't Nick Higgs say that the appeal was no win no fee for the legal team? Plan B was rumoured to be a scaled down version of UWE paid for by selling the Mem off for housing. I would guess the housing part is the plan B he is talking about (and the old board won't want to make it public if they were thinking of downsizing the project), with the new owners able to sort funding for UWE much easier in the mean time. I thought NH said this too, but on listening to Steve Hamer, he said there was £1m of litigation attached to buying Rovers, which is the appeal. Basically, we are around £15 mil short seeing we lost the case. I would have thought by all the talk when the takeover happened that they had the funding there if we won the case, but are negotiating the difference. As the stadium build has been as good as promised, I think the outcome of the funding negotiation would be the difference between the full spec & a smaller capacity? He also said the Car Park at UWE needs to be build by September, with all the know how now on board I am quietly confident of at least the original build happening. I wouldn't put ££££ on it mind
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Post by newmarketgas on Mar 17, 2016 20:15:32 GMT
Why is the guy who didn't plan for relegation, over budgeted year on year, ballsed this whole process up and who can't keep his mouth shut still involved with our great club? The old regime brought nothing but failure and misery and he should sod off with the rest of them. Because the new guys like him ?
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 17, 2016 20:18:04 GMT
Couple of things. Didn't Nick Higgs say that the appeal was no win no fee for the legal team? Plan B was rumoured to be a scaled down version of UWE paid for by selling the Mem off for housing. I would guess the housing part is the plan B he is talking about (and the old board won't want to make it public if they were thinking of downsizing the project), with the new owners able to sort funding for UWE much easier in the mean time. I thought NH said this too, but on listening to Steve Hamer, he said there was £1m of litigation attached to buying Rovers, which is the appeal. Basically, we are around £15 mil short seeing we lost the case. I would have thought by all the talk when the takeover happened that they had the funding there if we won the case, but are negotiating the difference. As the stadium build has been as good as promised, I think the outcome of the funding negotiation would be the difference between the full spec & a smaller capacity? He also said the Car Park at UWE needs to be build by September, with all the know how now on board I am quietly confident of at least the original build happening. I wouldn't put ££££ on it mind South Glos won't allow a smaller capacity stadium, higgs approached them about this and they said no, his last throw of a desperate dice. is it just me or did it feel like the old regime were back in charge today?
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 17, 2016 20:46:24 GMT
It's a pity some of you were not able to hear Lee Atkins talking about how the project is being taken forward at the shareholders annual meeting. It was crystal clear that nothing hinged on today's events.
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Post by pirate49 on Mar 17, 2016 20:57:45 GMT
Watola "the new regime are in London today exploring the possibility of alternative financing of the stadium". The word possibility concerns me. Seems I didn't just make it up then, still odd to me TW was sent out to face the cameras today, I thought Hamer would just have appeared and said the club is now prepared to accept the Appeal courts verdict and are now arranging alternative funding for the UWE. Perhaps they also don't want to be associated with the whole sorry process......I mean the process, and not the intent.
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Post by banjogas on Mar 17, 2016 21:07:03 GMT
to me Toni Tombola looked like a man sent out to face the music today, after all both he and Nick Fibbs have pushed the appeal at all cost.
It looks like the new regime have distanced themselves from today's appeal outcome, could be because we were never going to win the case. Even the most optimistic Gashead knew deep down Sainsburys were never going to be defeated.
However the real winners are the briefs!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 21:09:58 GMT
why the feck is TW still in a job - wasterman!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 17, 2016 21:13:48 GMT
It's a pity some of you were not able to hear Lee Atkins talking about how the project is being taken forward at the shareholders annual meeting. It was crystal clear that nothing hinged on today's events. Unfortunately the vast majority of the fanbase won't be aware of this, just all the negative publicity that has returned in the media today, not helped by watola's performance. Someone from the new regime should have dealt with this.
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Post by aghast on Mar 17, 2016 21:51:44 GMT
I think they may have needed to keep someone on from the old regime to face the press. After all, they had nothing to do with it, so why should they have to justify it? If TW is still in his job by this time next week I'll be surprised. He may have earned a nice little leaving present for doing this last deed of the old guard.
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 17, 2016 22:43:47 GMT
It's a pity some of you were not able to hear Lee Atkins talking about how the project is being taken forward at the shareholders annual meeting. It was crystal clear that nothing hinged on today's events. What did Lee Atkins say about how the stadium is being taken forward?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 0:55:53 GMT
It's a pity some of you were not able to hear Lee Atkins talking about how the project is being taken forward at the shareholders annual meeting. It was crystal clear that nothing hinged on today's events. What did Lee Atkins say about how the stadium is being taken forward? He said "my dad Ian loves the rovers and will sort it".
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Post by Langford Gas on Mar 18, 2016 8:13:16 GMT
Watola "the new regime are in London today exploring the possibility of alternative financing of the stadium". The word possibility concerns me. Seems I didn't just make it up then, still odd to me TW was sent out to face the cameras today, I thought Hamer would just have appeared and said the club is now prepared to accept the Appeal courts verdict and are now arranging alternative funding for the UWE. it confirms to me that TW is totally out of touch and probably scored a verbal own goal again !
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 18, 2016 8:15:44 GMT
Seems I didn't just make it up then, still odd to me TW was sent out to face the cameras today, I thought Hamer would just have appeared and said the club is now prepared to accept the Appeal courts verdict and are now arranging alternative funding for the UWE. it confirms to me that TW is totally out of touch and probably scored a verbal own goal again ! Maybe that was point. Off you go Toni,you have a go. If they like you the jobs yours.... (snigger)
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 18, 2016 8:44:04 GMT
Couple of things. Didn't Nick Higgs say that the appeal was no win no fee for the legal team? Plan B was rumoured to be a scaled down version of UWE paid for by selling the Mem off for housing. I would guess the housing part is the plan B he is talking about (and the old board won't want to make it public if they were thinking of downsizing the project), with the new owners able to sort funding for UWE much easier in the mean time. I thought NH said this too, but on listening to Steve Hamer, he said there was £1m of litigation attached to buying Rovers, which is the appeal. Basically, we are around £15 mil short seeing we lost the case. I would have thought by all the talk when the takeover happened that they had the funding there if we won the case, but are negotiating the difference. As the stadium build has been as good as promised, I think the outcome of the funding negotiation would be the difference between the full spec & a smaller capacity? He also said the Car Park at UWE needs to be build by September, with all the know how now on board I am quietly confident of at least the original build happening. I wouldn't put ££££ on it mind Sainsbury's took a charge out of £699K on the Mem, I'm not sure if that's all their costs of the Appeal etc? Plus the £375k(?) paid already for their costs was only an interim order, whilst our solicitors ran the case on a no win. no fee, I doubt the barristers were that brave/daft so we may still have to pay their fees?
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 18, 2016 11:00:04 GMT
IMO, Toni gets a panning for whatever he says. I think we should give the guy a break right now. His hands were tied as much by Higgs as anything else and whilst I admit he has scored a couple of own goals, the new regime see something in him they need at the moment.
They likely sent TW because all the rest of the board members were away/busy and TW is still the most senior man at the club available but he may have only certain information to give. He also said "I am sure I am going to be criticised" so he must read the forums and see what people say about him. He is also a gashead and we have people telling him to eff off out of the club, he is still a fellow supporter so deserves a modicum of respect. There are some on here who are witch hunting for a head to roll, last week Ed Ware was accused of underhanded profiteering and using the club to do so with little evidence.
Its easy to be an arm chair director and tell someone how to run businesses but I doubt these people slating him are any more qualified than TW himself and would be able to do a job any differently under the same constraints, pressure and scrutiny.
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 18, 2016 13:28:24 GMT
IMO, Toni gets a panning for whatever he says. I think we should give the guy a break right now. His hands were tied as much by Higgs as anything else and whilst I admit he has scored a couple of own goals, the new regime see something in him they need at the moment. They likely sent TW because all the rest of the board members were away/busy and TW is still the most senior man at the club available but he may have only certain information to give. He also said "I am sure I am going to be criticised" so he must read the forums and see what people say about him. He is also a gashead and we have people telling him to eff off out of the club, he is still a fellow supporter so deserves a modicum of respect. There are some on here who are witch hunting for a head to roll, last week Ed Ware was accused of underhanded profiteering and using the club to do so with little evidence. Its easy to be an arm chair director and tell someone how to run businesses but I doubt these people slating him are any more qualified than TW himself and would be able to do a job any differently under the same constraints, pressure and scrutiny. He is a Coventry City supporter.
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