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Post by lpgas on Mar 29, 2016 10:43:35 GMT
Just a thought but given we were on a 6 game winning streak/Carlisle without a win in 6 games, then shouldn't they have been worrying about changing their formation to contain us, rather than the other way round? Not when they were overrunning us, could have kept the same team after 25 mins and be 2-0 down at half time What you are saying is that DC got it wrong from the start of the game. I think we would have been better with Leadbitter. We have very little pace at the back.
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 29, 2016 10:49:33 GMT
Although I'm as disappointed with yesterdays result as the next man, our excellent winning run had to end at some stage.
We were never going to win every game until the end of the Season and I've got a feeling we might just surprise Northampton when we go to their place.
Lets put this blip behind us and move onto giving Creepy a f'ing good hiding on Saturday now.
UTG
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Post by lpgas on Mar 29, 2016 10:52:52 GMT
I hate Crawley, and bloody Stevenage, and Yeovil.
I heard that Wael was there yesterday. He's been to 2 away games and we lose both. Tell him just to watch home games. He might be a jinx away!!!
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 29, 2016 10:55:03 GMT
I hate Crawley, and bloody Stevenage, and Yeovil. I heard that Wael was there yesterday. He's been to 2 away games and we lose both. Tell him just to watch home games. He might be a jinx away!!! I hate everyone except Rovers tbh...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 11:17:35 GMT
That is just NOT true. We changed formation entirely and Montaño was the only player that could make way to make that change, and the change worked. It wasn't our day but Lawrence played a very deep central role, NOT as a left winger. Just a thought but given we were on a 6 game winning streak/Carlisle without a win in 6 games, then shouldn't they have been worrying about changing their formation to contain us, rather than the other way round? Hmm, interesting that. I said exactly that on the matchday thread. Not agreeing with me are you?
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 29, 2016 11:55:59 GMT
Not when they were overrunning us, could have kept the same team after 25 mins and be 2-0 down at half time What you are saying is that DC got it wrong from the start of the game. I think we would have been better with Leadbitter. We have very little pace at the back. Maybe, but kept the same formation which everyone says he should do and changed 1 player, which made sense because Carlisle are a physical team so having parkes back would help. Unfortunalu some people had a bad day at the office. But DC was still brave enough to change it early.
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Post by supergas on Mar 29, 2016 12:42:50 GMT
Just a thought but given we were on a 6 game winning streak/Carlisle without a win in 6 games, then shouldn't they have been worrying about changing their formation to contain us, rather than the other way round? Hmm, interesting that. I said exactly that on the matchday thread. Not agreeing with me are you? Well given those who were at the game say we were being over-run and already down by one goal when the changes were made, surely it would be more of a worry if our manager either couldn't see the change that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make it....?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 13:41:38 GMT
Hmm, interesting that. I said exactly that on the matchday thread. Not agreeing with me are you? Well given those who were at the game say we were being over-run and already down by one goal when the changes were made, surely it would be more of a worry if our manager either couldn't see the change that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make it....? Shame he didnt feel that way when he handed the team sheet in. Leadbitter should have played. You know it as well as I do.
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Post by supergas on Mar 29, 2016 13:45:08 GMT
Well given those who were at the game say we were being over-run and already down by one goal when the changes were made, surely it would be more of a worry if our manager either couldn't see the change that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make it....? Shame he didnt feel that way when he handed the team sheet in. Leadbitter should have played. You know it as well as I do. Well no I don't because I know that DC knows our players and the opposition a hell of a lot better than I do. And you've not answered my original point because it wasn't about the starting XI. If DC either couldn't see the change(s) that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make them, would we have been better off?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:21:38 GMT
Shame he didnt feel that way when he handed the team sheet in. Leadbitter should have played. You know it as well as I do. Well no I don't because I know that DC knows our players and the opposition a hell of a lot better than I do. And you've not answered my original point because it wasn't about the starting XI. If DC either couldn't see the change(s) that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make them, would we have been better off? We were one nil down when the changes were made and we lost the match by one goal. So the changes had no effect whatsoever. The continuos leaving out of Leadbitter is however mystifying. We won the last match 3-0. There was no need to change the back four.
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Post by supergas on Mar 29, 2016 14:29:20 GMT
Well no I don't because I know that DC knows our players and the opposition a hell of a lot better than I do. And you've not answered my original point because it wasn't about the starting XI. If DC either couldn't see the change(s) that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make them, would we have been better off? We were one nil down when the changes were made and we lost the match by one goal. So the changes had no effect whatsoever. The continuos leaving out of Leadbitter is however mystifying. We won the last match 3-0. There was no need to change the back four. The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:37:34 GMT
We were one nil down when the changes were made and we lost the match by one goal. So the changes had no effect whatsoever. The continuos leaving out of Leadbitter is however mystifying. We won the last match 3-0. There was no need to change the back four. The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking... I am. He's really is the dogs bollox. Yesterday though, he made a bit of a ricket.
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Post by Bill Bones on Mar 29, 2016 14:44:28 GMT
We were one nil down when the changes were made and we lost the match by one goal. So the changes had no effect whatsoever. The continuos leaving out of Leadbitter is however mystifying. We won the last match 3-0. There was no need to change the back four. The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking... I'm not necessarily sure I agree. This "each game is a project" idea is all very modern and progressive and popular with young coaches but I think there's a huge danger of over-complicating things. "Don't change a winning team" is a cliche but that's because there's a lot of truth in it. We kept a clean sheet and scored three goals against Cambridge, so is he just always looking to make changes? Unless there's something really specific, like a type of winger who has a particular attribute, then maybe there's justification for changing the full back. Doesn't mean you need to do it every week though. He changed a side that kept a clean sheet and we conceded three goals, so maybe that speaks for itself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:50:31 GMT
The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking... I'm not necessarily sure I agree. This "each game is a project" idea is all very modern and progressive and popular with young coaches but I think there's a huge danger of over-complicating things. "Don't change a winning team" is a cliche but that's because there's a lot of truth in it. We kept a clean sheet and scored three goals against Cambridge, so is he just always looking to make changes? Unless there's something really specific, like a type of winger who has a particular attribute, then maybe there's justification for changing the full back. Doesn't mean you need to do it every week though. He changed a side that kept a clean sheet and we conceded three goals, so maybe that speaks for itself. Oh oh. The D.C. fan club will be after you matey.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 29, 2016 15:02:48 GMT
The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking... I'm not necessarily sure I agree. This "each game is a project" idea is all very modern and progressive and popular with young coaches but I think there's a huge danger of over-complicating things. "Don't change a winning team" is a cliche but that's because there's a lot of truth in it. We kept a clean sheet and scored three goals against Cambridge, so is he just always looking to make changes? Unless there's something really specific, like a type of winger who has a particular attribute, then maybe there's justification for changing the full back. Doesn't mean you need to do it every week though. He changed a side that kept a clean sheet and we conceded three goals, so maybe that speaks for itself. Do you really think that Leads at RB and Clarke at CB would have shored up our midfield yesterday?
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Post by supergas on Mar 29, 2016 15:10:36 GMT
The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking... I'm not necessarily sure I agree. This "each game is a project" idea is all very modern and progressive and popular with young coaches but I think there's a huge danger of over-complicating things. "Don't change a winning team" is a cliche but that's because there's a lot of truth in it. We kept a clean sheet and scored three goals against Cambridge, so is he just always looking to make changes? Unless there's something really specific, like a type of winger who has a particular attribute, then maybe there's justification for changing the full back. Doesn't mean you need to do it every week though. He changed a side that kept a clean sheet and we conceded three goals, so maybe that speaks for itself. I'll respond to this rather than tbonegas 's similar reply. And I'm going to make it personal to my point of view. The reason (in my opinion) we were relegated in 2014 was that for most of the season JW played the same failing players in the same failing formation week after week after week. Was he right? Do you not think that all throughout that season other teams adapted (ie took advantage of us) as they knew our strengths and weaknesses because they were the same strengths and weaknesses game after game after game? 'Don't change a winning team' works if you win the following game and have blind faith. DC wins plenty of games changing things to target those next three points and I have plenty of faith in him to do it however he sees fit. Who on here saw Danny Leadbitter in training? Who talked to him about how he felt after the Friday game and before the Monday game? Who knows more about the way Carlisle were likely to set-up and play than anyone on here? DC got it wrong? Big deal, but I know he did it for the best footballing reasons, unlike any Rovers manager since...?
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 29, 2016 15:37:46 GMT
The last match was against Cambridge, this one was against Carlisle. That's the reason, it's a different project. I thought you were coming around to this way of thinking... I'm not necessarily sure I agree. This "each game is a project" idea is all very modern and progressive and popular with young coaches but I think there's a huge danger of over-complicating things. "Don't change a winning team" is a cliche but that's because there's a lot of truth in it. We kept a clean sheet and scored three goals against Cambridge, so is he just always looking to make changes? Unless there's something really specific, like a type of winger who has a particular attribute, then maybe there's justification for changing the full back. Doesn't mean you need to do it every week though. He changed a side that kept a clean sheet and we conceded three goals, so maybe that speaks for itself. The really specific difference was Carlisle were going to lob long balls at our defence all game so the one change was meant to help aerial threats. It didn't work, but it's worked a lot of the times this season
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 29, 2016 15:38:47 GMT
Well no I don't because I know that DC knows our players and the opposition a hell of a lot better than I do. And you've not answered my original point because it wasn't about the starting XI. If DC either couldn't see the change(s) that needed to be made, or didn't have the confidence to make them, would we have been better off? We were one nil down when the changes were made and we lost the match by one goal. So the changes had no effect whatsoever. The continuos leaving out of Leadbitter is however mystifying. We won the last match 3-0. There was no need to change the back four. We drew 2-2 after the changes so it made every difference. Leadbitter wouldn't have made any difference as it was being overrun in midfield which was causing us problems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 16:47:10 GMT
We were one nil down when the changes were made and we lost the match by one goal. So the changes had no effect whatsoever. The continuos leaving out of Leadbitter is however mystifying. We won the last match 3-0. There was no need to change the back four. We drew 2-2 after the changes so it made every difference. Leadbitter wouldn't have made any difference as it was being overrun in midfield which was causing us problems. Oh great. I'm over the moon about drawing a match that we lost. How many points did we get for it?
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