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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 21:51:51 GMT
Meh,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 1:03:50 GMT
Meanwhile, Brian?
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 30, 2014 7:08:01 GMT
Funny how some people have a story for every occasion, or do they live in a fantasy land ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 7:23:44 GMT
Funny how some people have a story for every occasion, or do they live in a fantasy land ? Obtuse?
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Post by jozer on Aug 30, 2014 9:50:42 GMT
Are you there Brian? LOL!
He strikes me as similar to David Brain. Tries to fight his corner but just goes quiet when people don't just accept answers that don't add up.
I have given lifts to Rovers fans before. I don't expect a seat on the BoD for that. It is worth noting that, again like DB, he does seem a genuinely nice guy generally. You can bet that none of GoD, NH, BB or comin' 'ome Ken for that matter would cross the road to **** on an ordinary fan.
I wouldn'd wish to run him down as a person, but the fact is that his conduct and explanations of it as a so-called 'fans director' who's place on the BoD represents £1,000,000 of ordinary fans' money just ain't good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 10:06:38 GMT
Hugo Re your question. This is what Brian voted upon to ban a life long fan and investor. This has been in the public domain previously and was posted up on then old AF and facebook (the latter I am led to believe) and Twitter This was deliberately delivered at half time to Kevin by Dave Harper who had instruction to escort Kevin from the ground at that point in full view of the fans. To the best of my knowledge no effort was made to send this in confidence to Kevin's home.
As you will note there is no reference to any specific offence or potential libel.
Since that time it has been brought to my attention that the chairman has quoted postings on forums as justification, despite the fact that no reference was made in the letter. I know Kevin has asked for this evidence. Subsequently I am lead to believe that Kevin has been asked to apologise to the board which may, or may not, lead to a lifting of the ban. I am led to believe he has agreed if he is told what he has to apologise for. As I understand it there has been nothing forthcoming. I have in my possession emails that confirms this.
If anyone can show me how to copy a pdf file onto this forum the I will copy over the original letter, which I have transcribed above.
So Brian, I ask again. As our representative, paid for by £1,000,000 of our money, you say you voted to ban Kevin based upon the "arguments" put to you. As our representative and noting that you are supposed to act in our best interests, what were those arguments and are we all in danger of falling foul of them given that we don't know what they are.
In your own time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 11:25:58 GMT
Hugo Re your question. This is what Brian voted upon to ban a life long fan and investor. This has been in the public domain previously and was posted up on then old AF and facebook (the latter I am led to believe) and Twitter This was deliberately delivered at half time to Kevin by Dave Harper who had instruction to escort Kevin from the ground at that point in full view of the fans. To the best of my knowledge no effort was made to send this in confidence to Kevin's home.
As you will note there is no reference to any specific offence or potential libel.
Since that time it has been brought to my attention that the chairman has quoted postings on forums as justification, despite the fact that no reference was made in the letter. I know Kevin has asked for this evidence. Subsequently I am lead to believe that Kevin has been asked to apologise to the board which may, or may not, lead to a lifting of the ban. I am led to believe he has agreed if he is told what he has to apologise for. As I understand it there has been nothing forthcoming. I have in my possession emails that confirms this.
If anyone can show me how to copy a pdf file onto this forum the I will copy over the original letter, which I have transcribed above.
So Brian, I ask again. As our representative, paid for by £1,000,000 of our money, you say you voted to ban Kevin based upon the "arguments" put to you. As our representative and noting that you are supposed to act in our best interests, what were those arguments and are we all in danger of falling foul of them given that we don't know what they are.
In your own time
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Good work Oldie
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Post by jozer on Aug 30, 2014 20:06:56 GMT
Don't hold your breath.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 30, 2014 20:08:42 GMT
If I were Brian I wouldn't answer to be honest. Its a trap.
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Post by jozer on Aug 30, 2014 21:01:55 GMT
Not if there was a good reason to ban KS it isn't.
But there wasn't, was there? We all know it and BSS knows it.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 30, 2014 21:59:47 GMT
Not if there was a good reason to ban KS it isn't. But there wasn't, was there? We all know it and BSS knows it. there you go. That's exactly why I wouldn't bother. Because you have made your mind up already. Youre not really interested in asking a genuine question. Clearly you just want to have a go. I don't know anything about the KS thing but I think this kinda proves why if I was brianss I wouldn't bother trying to answer.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 30, 2014 22:43:56 GMT
I've never met Kevin but I think the way he has been treated is appalling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 4:01:33 GMT
I've never met Kevin but I think the way he has been treated is appalling.
Good man Swiss. Ras, I am surprised, shocked actually given some of your posts / uploaded images, that you would defend a lack of transparency and honesty. It has nothing to do with your emotive language, traps and all that guff, it has to do with the behaviour of our elected and funded representative. This issue goes way beyond the personal circumstances of Kevin Spencer, this banning on a "whim" based upon alleged criticism could affect any one of us at any time. Is that the kind of club you want? I do realise of course that it is far easier to stand silent.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 31, 2014 6:11:15 GMT
Perhaps if he had stood silent he would not be where he is today ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 6:33:00 GMT
Perhaps if he had stood silent he would not be where he is today ? On the presumption you refer to KS, you really believe in That? Do you really believe that a freely expressed opinion, made without libel nor malice, should be suppressed, your freedom of movement Curtailed? You really believe that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 6:39:32 GMT
The stupidest part of it all is that if they just lift the ban, it all goes away.
Some will hold a grudge, but 99% won't care a toss about it anymore.
KS being at games or not won't effect a single thing.
It only serves to make NH look spiteful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 6:48:48 GMT
The stupidest part of it all is that if they just lift the ban, it all goes away. Some will hold a grudge, but 99% won't care a toss about it anymore. KS being at games or not won't effect a single thing. It only serves to make NH look spiteful. Agreed. Out of the 5,000 odd there yesterday, how many would actually know who KS is, so it won't make a jot of difference to the majority if he's there. It's not as though people are campaigning for a tried and convicted hooligan to be allowed back in. Time to sort it, and move on.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 31, 2014 6:57:46 GMT
Oldie, don't try and make this sound like World War III, this is about a man who could not keep his mouth shut, how about he says sorry for that and see where it goes ?
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Post by peterparker on Aug 31, 2014 7:00:05 GMT
Perhaps if he had stood silent he would not be where he is today ? Maybe, but easier said then done for most of us, when we are all passionate fans. Whats worse is that Kevs "unfounded and constant criticism" or whatever the BoD say it was isnt exactly far of the mark given our situatation we have ended up in is it? Perhaps he had a point all along and thats why they dont like it
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 31, 2014 7:03:39 GMT
Hugo, you really think the KS boys would not call it a great victory for the choosen one and rub everyones nose in it for the next twenty years ?
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