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Post by axegas on Sept 14, 2020 17:56:11 GMT
Anybody else reading this and thinking that they couldn't care less? Honestly so many more important things going on in the world right now than an argument on facebook.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 14, 2020 17:57:23 GMT
Anybody else reading this and thinking that they couldn't care less? Honestly so many more important things going on in the world right now than an argument on facebook. Yeha me tbh |
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Post by peterparker on Sept 14, 2020 17:58:04 GMT
That page is a cesspool
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 14, 2020 18:03:24 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season.
Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 14, 2020 18:23:48 GMT
I canât for the life of me think why anyone would be so against the players support of black lives matter.
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Post by francegas on Sept 14, 2020 18:34:23 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season. Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤ The two are spectrums apart. One is a political movement whilst the other is a symbol of remembrance to remember mine and perhaps members of your family who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedom we have today. Would I be offended if any foreign players refused to wear the poppy ? Of course not I wouldn't expect them to. |
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Post by Westy on Sept 14, 2020 18:38:17 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season. Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤ The two are spectrums apart. One is a political movement whilst the other is a symbol of remembrance to remember mine and perhaps members of your family who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedom we have today. Would I be offended if any foreign players refused to wear the poppy ? Of course not I wouldn't expect them to. Spectrums apart depending on which tabloid you consume. One half says BLM is simply recognising black people into society the way they should already be. I wouldn't say that is spectrally opposed to the football world. However, you could read into systemic racism as "a Marxist plot to take over America", but then again, I'm careful of the bias. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 19:54:04 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season. Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤ Why does it have to be a competition? Just give sports people the freedom to choose what cause they support ffs. Oh, no, we canât. Because anyone who dares not to follow the herd runs the risk of being âcancelledâ or publicly shamed. |
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 14, 2020 20:20:45 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season. Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤ The two are spectrums apart. One is a political movement whilst the other is a symbol of remembrance to remember mine and perhaps members of your family who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedom we have today. Would I be offended if any foreign players refused to wear the poppy ? Of course not I wouldn't expect them to. BLM only seems to be a political movement to those who don't want it in sports. Why is tackling racism a political issue and not a societal one? For the poppy the only player I've not seen wear one is James McLean and he gets dogs absue every year. Do you agree with his choice not to wear one? |
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 14, 2020 20:23:45 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season. Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤ Why does it have to be a competition? Just give sports people the freedom to choose what cause they support ffs. Oh, no, we canât. Because anyone who dares not to follow the herd runs the risk of being âcancelledâ or publicly shamed. Can't say I've seen too much blow back if someone has decided to stand instead of kneel. Charles Leclerc being the one that springs to mind. However McLean never wears a poppy and gets death threats. God forbid a politician or news reporter forgets to put one one. My point is it runs both ways. If a sports personality wants to use their platform to raise awareness of a cause. That's fine by me even if I don't agree with it. If they don't want to support something that lots of others do. Also their choice. No skin off my nose either way |
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 14, 2020 20:27:49 GMT
John Kayes.. Ok I'm going to outline the events of yesterday and today, if your fed up with it all please just scroll on down I understand. It started when i saw that Mandy Bithell had been banned, now i have to say i can't say that Mandy is a friend of mine I know her as I know most of you from the games or through the Rovers pages but I asked why she was banned and she told me she posted a report about the Sunderland game and also that she was disappointed that the players had taken the knee before the game. Now they took it down and she re posted it and they banned her, she says she posted it twice they say four times. So I ask the question what are the names of admin admin then someone put a post up of their names, I asked why they banned her and what for then in with the answers Chris Smith posted a photo of a few people on a bed and said that she was banned for posting indecent photos, the way it was worded maid it sound like he was admin but he's not. So I call Mandy and ask if she did post the photos and she said no. then the photo was taken down, now came a message from Chris Smith, it said Hi John I believe there has been a big miss communication. we identified Mandy this Mandy was banned many years ago. it was the wrong Mandy that we thought sent these pictures. Therefore we are wrong and apologise on this occasion. The real Mandy reasons why Mandy has been banned i am un aware of. Thanks. Now a few minutes later i get the same post word for word from Amander Bassett so with two post the same i thought that these two were admin but they say now that their not. i said the best thing to do would be apologies to Mandy but up to now as far as I know he as not. I get a message from Luke Barrett saying they are dealing with the images which have been posted and are deleting them, we at admin would like to thank you for your understanding for why we had to do so, going forward we will keep an eye out on any future posts of what people are accusing her of. now after getting some answers i posted that i agreed with her getting banned if she posted four times, but we don't think that she did, So now we think its all over but then they banned her for good and this is the answer i got when I asked why the permanent ban. This was from Wayne Prewett. "We have mutted someone who broke the rules and then used her friends to carry on the argument, we don't need or tolerate it so we have banned her. End of, our decision that is what admins do. So I post that word for word on the page and it went off in seconds so i thought it might not have gone through and put it up again, after all it's only the reason why they banned her. so then i get this, YOU HAVE CONTINUED TO POST, WHEN ADMIN HAS REMOVED SO YOU WILL NOW BE PLACED ON MUTE FOR A WEEK. So I was told later if i don't approve by all means leave the page in protest. now today Luck Barrett as posted saying that i was trying to threaten the team and they said to me i was on my last warning and i will be muted and not blocked and goes on to say both I and Mandy were both given plenty of chances and we didn't listen. Now with that he is just telling lies, at no time I repeat no time did i threaten anyone or have any warning about posting anything on the site before i posted their reason for Banning Mandy, I spoken to them today and to be honest they have gone into their shell and want it to blow over. I'm not leaving the group but don't expect to be in it for long. it's a group run by a few like minded people that feel they have the right to do things and not explain why they did it, all they had to do yesterday was put up the same post that I put up but that would have let you see how they work. now I have been told that someone as posted on their site that I was banned for making anti semitic remarks, i wounder if the person that put that up will be banned. Well I told you to keep scrolling. I ve read shorter books ffs đ |
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Post by axegas on Sept 14, 2020 20:29:47 GMT
Just think once this all blows over we're straight into poppy season. Looking forward to all the people who applaud sports people not taking the knee as a principled stand doing the same for any player that declines to wear a poppy đ¤ The two are spectrums apart. One is a political movement whilst the other is a symbol of remembrance to remember mine and perhaps members of your family who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedom we have today. Would I be offended if any foreign players refused to wear the poppy ? Of course not I wouldn't expect them to. Asking for basic human rights and full equality is not a political movement. An organisation hijacked BLM to gain a platform to promote their views, they don't represent or speak for the movement itself. Just like how no newspapers or political parties speak for the poppy campaign. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 20:59:01 GMT
The two are spectrums apart. One is a political movement whilst the other is a symbol of remembrance to remember mine and perhaps members of your family who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedom we have today. Would I be offended if any foreign players refused to wear the poppy ? Of course not I wouldn't expect them to. BLM only seems to be a political movement to those who don't want it in sports. Why is tackling racism a political issue and not a societal one? For the poppy the only player I've not seen wear one is James McLean and he gets dogs absue every year. Do you agree with his choice not to wear one? I understand it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:01:43 GMT
The two are spectrums apart. One is a political movement whilst the other is a symbol of remembrance to remember mine and perhaps members of your family who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedom we have today. Would I be offended if any foreign players refused to wear the poppy ? Of course not I wouldn't expect them to. Asking for basic human rights and full equality is not a political movement. An organisation hijacked BLM to gain a platform to promote their views, they don't represent or speak for the movement itself. Just like how no newspapers or political parties speak for the poppy campaign. Sasha Johnson, one of the BLM Leaders in the UK, had some quite interesting things to say in speeches and on Twitter (before she was banned). Doesnât seem that interested in promoting âfull equalityâ. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:06:25 GMT
Jesus Wept
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Post by axegas on Sept 14, 2020 21:11:04 GMT
Asking for basic human rights and full equality is not a political movement. An organisation hijacked BLM to gain a platform to promote their views, they don't represent or speak for the movement itself. Just like how no newspapers or political parties speak for the poppy campaign. Sasha Johnson, one of the BLM Leaders in the UK, had some quite interesting things to say in speeches and on Twitter (before she was banned). Doesnât seem that interested in promoting âfull equalityâ. Does Sasha Johnson speak for the movement? I hadn't heard of her until you replied to my post. From looking her up I'd say probably not. |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Sept 14, 2020 21:27:40 GMT
Mods, please for the love of God move to general chat or Facebook
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:37:16 GMT
Why does it have to be a competition? Just give sports people the freedom to choose what cause they support ffs. Oh, no, we canât. Because anyone who dares not to follow the herd runs the risk of being âcancelledâ or publicly shamed. Can't say I've seen too much blow back if someone has decided to stand instead of kneel. Charles Leclerc being the one that springs to mind. However McLean never wears a poppy and gets death threats. God forbid a politician or news reporter forgets to put one one. My point is it runs both ways. If a sports personality wants to use their platform to raise awareness of a cause. That's fine by me even if I don't agree with it. If they don't want to support something that lots of others do. Also their choice. No skin off my nose either way The F1 guys got pretty shamed on Twitter didnât they? Everyoneâs being told how to think these days when we should respect everyoneâs right to express, or not, their support for a cause. There should be no right or wrong answers here. Maybe the sports stars not kneeling and the people on social media not clowning around with trite profile pics and statuses are choosing other ways to contribute? Itâs a sign of the times that the digital age has given us so much ability to stand in judgement of those around us and to project our morals and values on them and failure to think and feel in the same way we do is then a moral crime and worthy of âcancellingâ or whatever other nonsense is flavour of the month. Itâs a slippery slope to a world of group think imo, especially with companies now weighing in and judging their workers not on the quality of their work but their attitudes and opinions in their personal lives. Having said that McLean is an interesting one- he feels strongly about his heritage etc (which is fair enough in itself) to the point where Irish fans sing about him saying âf**k the queenâ etc however he is happy to take the Queenâs shilling. Never sat right with me, that particular example of freedom of expression. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 14, 2020 21:40:42 GMT
Moved to General Whatever.
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 15, 2020 7:41:07 GMT
Can't say I've seen too much blow back if someone has decided to stand instead of kneel. Charles Leclerc being the one that springs to mind. However McLean never wears a poppy and gets death threats. God forbid a politician or news reporter forgets to put one one. My point is it runs both ways. If a sports personality wants to use their platform to raise awareness of a cause. That's fine by me even if I don't agree with it. If they don't want to support something that lots of others do. Also their choice. No skin off my nose either way The F1 guys got pretty shamed on Twitter didnât they? Everyoneâs being told how to think these days when we should respect everyoneâs right to express, or not, their support for a cause. There should be no right or wrong answers here. Maybe the sports stars not kneeling and the people on social media not clowning around with trite profile pics and statuses are choosing other ways to contribute? Itâs a sign of the times that the digital age has given us so much ability to stand in judgement of those around us and to project our morals and values on them and failure to think and feel in the same way we do is then a moral crime and worthy of âcancellingâ or whatever other nonsense is flavour of the month. Itâs a slippery slope to a world of group think imo, especially with companies now weighing in and judging their workers not on the quality of their work but their attitudes and opinions in their personal lives. Having said that McLean is an interesting one- he feels strongly about his heritage etc (which is fair enough in itself) to the point where Irish fans sing about him saying âf**k the queenâ etc however he is happy to take the Queenâs shilling. Never sat right with me, that particular example of freedom of expression. You only have to look at this thread to see that we're way off group-think. People getting sacked for thier views on social media is an interesting one. I'm not overly comfortable with it, but if you employ someone who in thier actions means you lose business. Would you keep them on? Not sure what you mean about the queen's shilling. He's a footballer and has to get paid in some form of currency! |
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