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Post by peterparker on Jul 13, 2016 12:25:52 GMT
I would like to think the coach who was a striker and gets to work with them might have some inside if they are capable But what else is he going to say when he was asked that question after the game yesterday? "Nah, none of the lads here are up to it. Did you see Gaffney's finishing once he signed permanently last season? Lad couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. As for Ellis, the more Saturday's he spends watching the red lot instead of slicing mishit shots into the North Terrace the better." well yeah, I am not expecting him to say they are sh**, but that said it would be hard to argue Stewart hasn't had a positive impact on Taylor and probably Bodin.
Ellis' record is far from shabby as a substitute. With Ellis it is about getting some consistency as a starter.
James is young and who is to say Stewart wont get something out of him
and we all want Gaffney to sh*g our wives don't we?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 13, 2016 12:39:50 GMT
Problem is this is like Rovers under Higgs just hoping somebody turns good, why has Wael invested millions in buying the club if he's not prepared to pay a few £100K's more to keep or replace MT, it's all a bit odd.
Think MS really meant to say "Ellis (Harrison) and Billy (Bodin) are both another year older and Jermaine (Easter) a year or two too old"
BB may come good but never playedup front last season and if he does move to striker we need a quaility winger to replace his wide role, EH has generally poor when started last season to suddenly expect him to step up a league and be a consistent scorer seems to be expecting a lot?
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Post by eastongas on Jul 13, 2016 12:43:10 GMT
Problem is this is like Rovers under Higgs just hoping somebody turns good, why has Wael invested millions in buying the club if he's not prepared to pay a few £100K's more to keep or replace MT, it's all a bit odd. Think MS really meant to say "Ellis (Harrison) and Billy (Bodin) are both another year older and Jermaine (Easter) a year or two too old" BB may come good but never playedup front last season and if he does move to striker we need a quaility winger to replace his wide role, EH has generally poor when started last season to suddenly expect him to step up a league and be a consistent scorer seems to be expecting a lot? I think if the right player becomes available at the right price Wael will back DC but they won't chuck money at the playing side for the sake of it and I think that's the right way to go.
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Post by bluegas on Jul 13, 2016 12:47:41 GMT
Problem is this is like Rovers under Higgs just hoping somebody turns good, why has Wael invested millions in buying the club if he's not prepared to pay a few £100K's more to keep or replace MT, it's all a bit odd. So what do the club say? "We're not worried if MT leaves. We've got 5 or 10 million or whatever to spend on a replacement." Any guesses how much any replacement might then cost?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jul 13, 2016 12:49:02 GMT
Think that interview makes it abundantly clear that people have been fools to believe our billionaire owner is going to bankroll us to the Premier league
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Post by beaver132 on Jul 13, 2016 12:56:40 GMT
Think that interview makes it abundantly clear that people have been fools to believe our billionaire owner is going to bankroll us to the Premier league I am am never imagined that. Evolution not revolution means exactly that. Slowly slowly catchy monkey.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 13, 2016 12:57:51 GMT
Glad to hear Marcus say this. Spending lots of money for the sake of it and getting players in just to have numbers is the way we operated for years. With Marcus and DC there now seems to be a plan and way to go about it. Well done Rovers, this is exactly the way we need to go. It's been said a lot that with Wael on board we will see evolution not revolution and I feel that this is exactly what we've seen so far. His team are working on the new stadium and making sure they get it right for the future which appears to be more important than getting it done quickly and then regretting aspects of it (like Oxford and Coventry with their new stadiums). The Mem is even having money spent on it which will improve finances in the short term and I never thought that would happen! Well done Wael and SH.On the field DC is fine tuning the squad slowly and with players who will play and improve the team. I dont think anyone realistically expected us to get automatic promotion and that has raised everyone's expectations for this coming season and given a sense of urgency to everything we do (or don't do!). Happy days! UTG!
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Post by peterparker on Jul 13, 2016 13:00:41 GMT
Think that interview makes it abundantly clear that people have been fools to believe our billionaire owner is going to bankroll us to the Premier league yeah but who was believing that?
They made it abundantly clear what their position was and they seem to be wanting to put the infrastructure in place first (seems sensible to me)
If DC enquired about a player and was told that x club wanted x amount, I am sure DC would either say no thanks or put it to the board if he thought it worth it
take Luke James, we have him for a season with an option to take him permanently. I would imagine some sort of fee has been agreed before hand. I mean I doubt Peterborough would let him come score 25 goals and let us have him on a free
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 13:01:48 GMT
I'm quite happy to start the season with what we have up front and see which ones are up for L1, I think this is pretty much confirming that whether Taylor re-signs or not.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 13, 2016 13:05:01 GMT
I'm quite happy to start the season with what we have up front and see which ones are up for L1, I think this is pretty much confirming that whether Taylor re-signs or not. but we are going to go down and aren't good enough after a few pre-season games apparently
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 13, 2016 13:13:34 GMT
They are doing exactly the right thing, in my view. We have three players, in Ellis, Bodin and the new loanee, who all have a fair bit of potential. We also have Gaffers, who is one of the first names on the team sheet, and Easter, who appears to be an excellent influence and will contribute from the bench. I'm more concerned to add another creative option either in central midfield or out wide.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jul 13, 2016 13:13:34 GMT
We will struggle if we don't sign another striker in my opinion.
How many goals did Harrison score last season if you take away the pens?
How many goals did Gaffney score after he signed permanently?
Easter has managed 9 goals in 51 appearances since joining us in the Conference?
James has managed 3 goals in his last 68 games!
Until last season Bodin had never scored more than 5 in a season and I'd personally prefer he stayed on the wing anyway.
If Taylor doesn't re-sign we need to sign a replacement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 13:14:12 GMT
I'm quite happy to start the season with what we have up front and see which ones are up for L1, I think this is pretty much confirming that whether Taylor re-signs or not. but we are going to go down and aren't good enough after a few pre-season games apparently
We looked like world beaters pre season under Buckle. Anyone who reads anything into them is clearly a fool imo. With the benefit of hindsight, they hardly ever reflect on the season ahead.
This is just a case of the club managing fans expectations, we aren't getting any money for Taylor and I can't imagine he was on massive wages so all we have is his 2 years service, which that alone was pretty good.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jul 13, 2016 13:15:29 GMT
I'm getting fed up tbh, not because we're not throwing stupid money about and not because of the MT saga, but because people on here just moan and moan,for no reason at all! I don't know why but Rovers fans are horribly negative. I could just about understand it a few years ago, but we've had back to back promotions. DC has worked wonders with players the majority said would be crap and he turned down Leeds to stay with us. People are slagging off the new owners but they've done more in their short time here than NH and co did, debts cleared, no more Wonga loan, negotiating over the stadium to make sure everything is right for us. Remember when NH said we had a watertight contract and we never? What's to say the stadium issue isn't massively flawed and the new board are working to resolve that? But no slag them off, that's the Rovers way.
DC has said he only signs players who are the right fit for the club. Its worked out for him so far and yet people are moaning because we're not going after the likes of Jay Simpson who was on 15K a week last season and scored less than MT who was probably on 2K tops. People are telling us to get rid of MT, he's used us and then the same people moan when rumors arise of MT signing for Oxford on 4K a week and say we should have paid him 7K. DC has said he won't pay more than he believes a player is worth. If DC thinks MT is worth so much in League One he would have gave him it, from what we know, he hasn't and therefore he believes he could sign better with the money MT is asking for and that's why we're not giving in to him.
WAQ said we are taking things season by season and we won't be chucking money around for the sake of it, which plenty praised but now people want him to chuck thousands and thousands on players for the sake of it.
I'm sure a striker of MS credentials knows whether our strikers he see's every day can hit the back of the net on a regular basis more than the Rovers fans who seem to just sit behind their keyboard and complain 24/7.
Let DC and co do what they do best. They haven't let us down yet, but you wouldn't believe that if you read this place.
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Post by wiaww on Jul 13, 2016 13:46:04 GMT
I'm getting fed up tbh, not because we're not throwing stupid money about and not because of the MT saga, but because people on here just moan and moan,for no reason at all! I don't know why but Rovers fans are horribly negative. I could just about understand it a few years ago, but we've had back to back promotions. DC has worked wonders with players the majority said would be crap and he turned down Leeds to stay with us. People are slagging off the new owners but they've done more in their short time here than NH and co did, debts cleared, no more Wonga loan, negotiating over the stadium to make sure everything is right for us. Remember when NH said we had a watertight contract and we never? What's to say the stadium issue isn't massively flawed and the new board are working to resolve that? But no slag them off, that's the Rovers way. DC has said he only signs players who are the right fit for the club. Its worked out for him so far and yet people are moaning because we're not going after the likes of Jay Simpson who was on 15K a week last season and scored less than MT who was probably on 2K tops. People are telling us to get rid of MT, he's used us and then the same people moan when rumors arise of MT signing for Oxford on 4K a week and say we should have paid him 7K. DC has said he won't pay more than he believes a player is worth. If DC thinks MT is worth so much in League One he would have gave him it, from what we know, he hasn't and therefore he believes he could sign better with the money MT is asking for and that's why we're not giving in to him. WAQ said we are taking things season by season and we won't be chucking money around for the sake of it, which plenty praised but now people want him to chuck thousands and thousands on players for the sake of it. I'm sure a striker of MS credentials knows whether our strikers he see's every day can hit the back of the net on a regular basis more than the Rovers fans who seem to just sit behind their keyboard and complain 24/7. Let DC and co do what they do best. They haven't let us down yet, but you wouldn't believe that if you read this place. This a hundred times. I like this forum and use it as my first port of call for Rovers news and there's often lots of good info and debate on here, but my word there's some sh*te spouted on here at times. One thing I would say is that I'm not convinced football forums (fora?) are necessarily representative of entire fanbases. Those who post tend to be more outspoken than your average fan and so I think we see a polarisation of opinions. That said if I was DC I would laugh until I cried at some of the people on here and their "insight" in to managing a football club. Just let him do his job because if you haven't yet noticed, he's quite good at it.
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Post by gasonthemount on Jul 13, 2016 13:55:50 GMT
Excellent comments from Mario. Suggest others read his words carefully!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 14:30:08 GMT
I don't think anyone should be chastised for having a whinge, it's in an Englishman's nature and part of our culture along with things like queuing and binge drinking.
In fact we should be applauding these individuals for continuing a great British pastime and letting the world know we are still kings of the moaning bas**rds.
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Post by madgas on Jul 13, 2016 14:36:12 GMT
During his first Run with the club many thought that Chris Lines had the tools to be an effective striker.
Back then I didn't like it- but I could see a little bit in Chris playing off Gaffney.
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Jul 13, 2016 14:55:08 GMT
Christ do we have any ambition at this club? We have a billionaire owner yet we still want to keep the rag bag rovers tag Have we not tried this technique before and failed? I see why you want Wael to throw the chequebook at players but it doesn't always work. Many clubs have tried and failed at this method. I'd rather us build a squad that gels and plays with passion that a team with a few big time attitudes who don't care. When have we EVER! thrown the cheque book about!? I cant recall rovers ever paying more than 200k on players and I would hardly call that throwing the cheque book around.
The problem we had with over paying journey men before the DC days is they were all crap! No else wanted them they were all free transfers and loans, there's a reason they were free!! - Im saying lets go out and headhunt a real talent and throw some money at it for once.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 13, 2016 15:19:19 GMT
I'm getting fed up tbh, not because we're not throwing stupid money about and not because of the MT saga, but because people on here just moan and moan,for no reason at all! I don't know why but Rovers fans are horribly negative. I could just about understand it a few years ago, but we've had back to back promotions. DC has worked wonders with players the majority said would be crap and he turned down Leeds to stay with us. People are slagging off the new owners but they've done more in their short time here than NH and co did, debts cleared, no more Wonga loan, negotiating over the stadium to make sure everything is right for us. Remember when NH said we had a watertight contract and we never? What's to say the stadium issue isn't massively flawed and the new board are working to resolve that? But no slag them off, that's the Rovers way. DC has said he only signs players who are the right fit for the club. Its worked out for him so far and yet people are moaning because we're not going after the likes of Jay Simpson who was on 15K a week last season and scored less than MT who was probably on 2K tops. People are telling us to get rid of MT, he's used us and then the same people moan when rumors arise of MT signing for Oxford on 4K a week and say we should have paid him 7K. DC has said he won't pay more than he believes a player is worth. If DC thinks MT is worth so much in League One he would have gave him it, from what we know, he hasn't and therefore he believes he could sign better with the money MT is asking for and that's why we're not giving in to him. WAQ said we are taking things season by season and we won't be chucking money around for the sake of it, which plenty praised but now people want him to chuck thousands and thousands on players for the sake of it. I'm sure a striker of MS credentials knows whether our strikers he see's every day can hit the back of the net on a regular basis more than the Rovers fans who seem to just sit behind their keyboard and complain 24/7. Let DC and co do what they do best. They haven't let us down yet, but you wouldn't believe that if you read this place. This a hundred times. I like this forum and use it as my first port of call for Rovers news and there's often lots of good info and debate on here, but my word there's some sh*te spouted on here at times. One thing I would say is that I'm not convinced football forums (fora?) are necessarily representative of entire fanbases. Those who post tend to be more outspoken than your average fan and so I think we see a polarisation of opinions. That said if I was DC I would laugh until I cried at some of the people on here and their "insight" in to managing a football club. Just let him do his job because if you haven't yet noticed, he's quite good at it. Both posts spot on.
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