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Post by gaseous on Aug 7, 2016 11:59:42 GMT
All great goals but somebody should've got a challenge in or closed him down for their 2nd, plenty of players around, Ollie Clarke was the closest.
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 7, 2016 13:18:35 GMT
Someone said our squad is made up of 70-80 % of vanarama players . We need to thank DC for bringing pride back to our club. However: today tells us it is virtually impossible to step up two divisions and make no major signings. The class quality and gulf showed and we need to act pretty fast. The reason we did so well in this division from 2007-9 was the club invested heavily in players like Lambert Duffy Willians Elliott and Hughes. The minute we stopped investing and relied on loans we began to struggle. I believe DC have done a miracle on a shoestring budget but we now need to be realistic. Southampton went up two leagues and prospered in the top division with 3rd tier players. Not impossible and certainly not able to judge from 1 tough away game.
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 7, 2016 14:50:03 GMT
"Ollie Clarke was the closest" - difficult to tackle back when you're carrying a yellow card.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 14:59:09 GMT
"Ollie Clarke was the closest" - difficult to tackle back when you're carrying a yellow card. Maybe he should have been subbed then?
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 7, 2016 15:10:09 GMT
Of course....but for who, mastermind?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 15:11:40 GMT
Someone said our squad is made up of 70-80 % of vanarama players . We need to thank DC for bringing pride back to our club. However: today tells us it is virtually impossible to step up two divisions and make no major signings. The class quality and gulf showed and we need to act pretty fast. The reason we did so well in this division from 2007-9 was the club invested heavily in players like Lambert Duffy Willians Elliott and Hughes. The minute we stopped investing and relied on loans we began to struggle. I believe DC have done a miracle on a shoestring budget but we now need to be realistic. What an odd warping of history. Elliot was bought in about 2004, Lambert in 2006, they were League Two players by your logic. Duffy and Williams didn't succeed ultimately at League 1 level for BRFC. Our problem was tearing that successful 2006/07 team apart in the space of about 18 months. Lambert, Lawrence, Elliot, Disley, Hinton, Lescott etc. etc. all were let go/sold in an 18 month period. We replaced them with 'quality players' like Carl Regan, on big wages with 3 year deals etc. Just give the squad a chance, with a couple of quality signings (Boateng would be a great start) we'll be okay.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 15:35:11 GMT
"Ollie Clarke was the closest" - difficult to tackle back when you're carrying a yellow card. Maybe he should have been subbed then? Sack the board
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Post by gaseous on Aug 7, 2016 16:03:27 GMT
Of course....but for who, mastermind? The CM we should've brought in by now.
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 7, 2016 16:20:21 GMT
Of course....but for who, mastermind? The CM we should've brought in by now. In fairness I think DC would have started with Mansell ,lines and Sinclair yesterday with Clarke and or Lawrence on the bench. The second half formation change seeing j Clarke go off ,mansell and lines remaining in centre midfield with bodin coming on the right and Sinclair moving to the left (442). Gaffney would have been replaced by Harrison or Easter and then finally Montano would have replaced Sinclair (442) OR o. Clarke/Lawrence would have replaced mansell ,bodin pushed forward with a 3 man midfield again (433). Confused yet ?....I am...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 16:25:54 GMT
Someone said our squad is made up of 70-80 % of vanarama players . We need to thank DC for bringing pride back to our club. However: today tells us it is virtually impossible to step up two divisions and make no major signings. The class quality and gulf showed and we need to act pretty fast. The reason we did so well in this division from 2007-9 was the club invested heavily in players like Lambert Duffy Willians Elliott and Hughes. The minute we stopped investing and relied on loans we began to struggle. I believe DC have done a miracle on a shoestring budget but we now need to be realistic. What an odd warping of history. Elliot was bought in about 2004, Lambert in 2006, they were League Two players by your logic. Duffy and Williams didn't succeed ultimately at League 1 level for BRFC. Our problem was tearing that successful 2006/07 team apart in the space of about 18 months. Lambert, Lawrence, Elliot, Disley, Hinton, Lescott etc. etc. all were let go/sold in an 18 month period. We replaced them with 'quality players' like Carl Regan, on big wages with 3 year deals etc. Just give the squad a chance, with a couple of quality signings (Boateng would be a great start) we'll be okay. Not saying they were bad players but Elliott, Disley, Hinton and Lescott hardly improved since they left the gas.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 17:01:18 GMT
Good work from Linesy tracking back for the 2nd where he gave the ball away though. I like when the ball hits the net, he takes time to adjust his shorts before expressing his frustration with the goal. Classic Lines to be fair. Always concerned about his appearance first and foremost.
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 7, 2016 17:06:57 GMT
Good work from Linesy tracking back for the 2nd where he gave the ball away though. I like when the ball hits the net, he takes time to adjust his shorts before expressing his frustration with the goal. Classic Lines to be fair. Always concerned about his appearance first and foremost. Now there's a tactic Chris Coleman could have used....held up a full length mirror at the side of the pitch....ronaldo would have been there in a shot !.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 17:56:15 GMT
What an odd warping of history. Elliot was bought in about 2004, Lambert in 2006, they were League Two players by your logic. Duffy and Williams didn't succeed ultimately at League 1 level for BRFC. Our problem was tearing that successful 2006/07 team apart in the space of about 18 months. Lambert, Lawrence, Elliot, Disley, Hinton, Lescott etc. etc. all were let go/sold in an 18 month period. We replaced them with 'quality players' like Carl Regan, on big wages with 3 year deals etc. Just give the squad a chance, with a couple of quality signings (Boateng would be a great start) we'll be okay. Not saying they were bad players but Elliott, Disley, Hinton and Lescott hardly improved since they left the gas. Missing the point, they weren't the greatest players and probably did need replacing but we did it too quickly. In that L1 relegation season we had issues at centre-back, central midfield etc. because the likes of Tunnicliffe, McCracken, Ifil, Blizzard etc. really weren't good enough either. Those players I mention were part of a team which finished 11th the year before. Long term they faded, yes, but short term they were decent options who should have been kept on in case the replacements weren't good enough. Bournemouth, Southampton etc. changed their squad over 4/5 years, not a summer. It's not played on paper, I think that's what people forget when they suggest that our known squad players aren't good enough, and unknown players should come in right now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 18:15:00 GMT
Not saying they were bad players but Elliott, Disley, Hinton and Lescott hardly improved since they left the gas. Missing the point, they weren't the greatest players and probably did need replacing but we did it too quickly. In that L1 relegation season we had issues at centre-back, central midfield etc. because the likes of Tunnicliffe, McCracken, Ifil, Blizzard etc. really weren't good enough either. Those players I mention were part of a team which finished 11th the year before. Long term they faded, yes, but short term they were decent options who should have been kept on in case the replacements weren't good enough. Bournemouth, Southampton etc. changed their squad over 4/5 years, not a summer. It's not played on paper, I think that's what people forget when they suggest that our known squad players aren't good enough, and unknown players should come in right now I don't think we got rid of them too quickly, none of them would have taken us to the next level we just didn't replace them well, as you also mentioned. I think many fans posted even before yesterday that our midfield wouldn't be good enough to make us challenge in this league, and its looking to be true as reports seem to suggest Clarke, Sinclair and Lines didn't have great games. Its difficult to tell how good or bad we are after one game, Scunthorpe finished last season well but they could struggle this season, this is why I dont bet until at least a few weeks into the season. Early days, only one game gone, plenty of points left.....but I just hate losing
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