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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:42:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:47:57 GMT
All of the goals were crackers. Though Scunny's 2nd looked like a younger Mildy would have saved it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:57:24 GMT
All of the goals were crackers. Though Scunny's 2nd looked like a younger Mildy would have saved it. I just saw very bad defending, the first you don't let a striker bring the ball down in the box like that, their 2nd was like that Newport away goal (Rodman?) last season with no challenges forthcoming, the third was just a single ball splitting open our defence like Pompey did last season. The last one was apparently while we were countered but he still ran through 3 defenders! In a way im glad these warning signs have come up now rather than some players playing above their station with promotion momentum, and DC finding out they aren't good enough when its too late. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:59:15 GMT
All of the goals were crackers. Though Scunny's 2nd looked like a younger Mildy would have saved it. I just saw very bad defending, the first you don't let a striker bring the ball down in the box like that, their 2nd was like that Newport away goal (Rodman?) last season with no challenges forthcoming, the third was just a single ball splitting open our defence like Pompey did last season. The last one was apparently while we were countered but he still ran through 3 defenders! In a way im glad these warning signs have come up now rather than some players playing above their station with promotion momentum, and DC finding out they aren't good enough when its too late. Yes the defending was poor, but they were still cracking finishes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 20:01:18 GMT
I just saw very bad defending, the first you don't let a striker bring the ball down in the box like that, their 2nd was like that Newport away goal (Rodman?) last season with no challenges forthcoming, the third was just a single ball splitting open our defence like Pompey did last season. The last one was apparently while we were countered but he still ran through 3 defenders! In a way im glad these warning signs have come up now rather than some players playing above their station with promotion momentum, and DC finding out they aren't good enough when its too late. Yes the defending was poor, but they were still cracking finishes. Oh yeah without doubt good finishes, I too thought Mildy could have got a hand to the 2nd one, but they should never have been allowed that amount of space to score them in the first place. Steve Yates will have a bit of overtime this week anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 20:05:47 GMT
Defence more culpable than Mildy I think, ball swerves a bit for the 2nd and the bloke is given the freedom of Scunthorpe.
Equaliser frustrating because those two opportunities for clearing headers fall to the wrong people - Gaffney and Leadbitter. Hartley or Lockyer get that clear.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Aug 6, 2016 20:11:08 GMT
Someone said our squad is made up of 70-80 % of vanarama players . We need to thank DC for bringing pride back to our club. However: today tells us it is virtually impossible to step up two divisions and make no major signings. The class quality and gulf showed and we need to act pretty fast.
The reason we did so well in this division from 2007-9 was the club invested heavily in players like Lambert Duffy Willians Elliott and Hughes. The minute we stopped investing and relied on loans we began to struggle. I believe DC have done a miracle on a shoestring budget but we now need to be realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 20:16:53 GMT
I think the home game with Oxford will tell us a lot more about the squad than today; locking horns with a fellow promoted side who I dont feel will be as successful as Scunthorpe this season.
If we lose that one it still wouldn't be the end of the world, but for me will confirm quality needs to be brought in asap.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2016 20:27:29 GMT
S omeone said our squad is made up of 70-80 % of vanarama players . We need to thank DC for bringing pride back to our club. However: today tells us it is virtually impossible to step up two divisions and make no major signings. The class quality and gulf showed and we need to act pretty fast. The reason we did so well in this division from 2007-9 was the club invested heavily in players like Lambert Duffy Willians Elliott and Hughes. The minute we stopped investing and relied on loans we began to struggle. I believe DC have done a miracle on a shoestring budget but we now need to be realistic. Not sure you'd class the likes of Brown & Lines Vanarama players just because they played in that league? I'd also say Taylor & Leadbitter are two of our best players, only Sincs & J Clark may struggle but the score was 1-1 when they both went off today! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 20:29:33 GMT
I think the home game with Oxford will tell us a lot more about the squad than today; locking horns with a fellow promoted side who I dont feel will be as successful as Scunthorpe this season. If we lose that one it still wouldn't be the end of the world, but for me will confirm quality needs to be brought in asap. Trouble is, if we beat Oxford 3-0, we might decide that our players are easily good enough and not sign anyone! |
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Post by surreygas on Aug 6, 2016 21:36:41 GMT
Scunny will be up there at the end of the season based on today's performance (and last years form at the end of the season) so no need to panic just yet but we could do with a bit more quality in midfield. I think I'd prefer Ellis up front instead of Rory.
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Post by socrates on Aug 6, 2016 22:29:49 GMT
I think the home game with Oxford will tell us a lot more about the squad than today; locking horns with a fellow promoted side who I dont feel will be as successful as Scunthorpe this season. If we lose that one it still wouldn't be the end of the world, but for me will confirm quality needs to be brought in asap. Trouble is, if we beat Oxford 3-0, we might decide that our players are easily good enough and not sign anyone! [ I think the squad and team spirit we've got now is easy good enough to stay up but if I know DC which I do he's going to want more than that and is currently looking to bring in more quality , he keeps his cards close to his chest normally but we've heard it from him so I'd be amazed if we don't see more signings before the end of the month. Also there will be two or three signings in January that will help us push on , whether it be to get away from trouble or push towards promotion or both. I'm not" in the know" as some like to call it on here but I know my club and see how things work so I know what I'm on about. History tends to repeat itself , losing today doesn't worry me in the slightest. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 23:54:53 GMT
its one game ffs
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Post by Congas on Aug 7, 2016 7:22:18 GMT
Our goal stemmed from a sliced clearance and a slight deflection on the ball back in. Well taken though. Their equaliser came from a poor headed clearance after a bit of head tennis. Well taken though. Poor defending on both counts, especially from our point of view. You can't head it up in the air in the box like that when you're under pressure. It's got to go out so you can regroup, and he had time to do that. Our deep midfield looked all at sea for their second goal. You can't back off and back off until they get in the danger zone in this league. You have to press higher up and get the tackle in quicker. Their third goal was similar in that respect, but sh*t happens when you're pushing up for a late equaliser. Having said that, Mildy looked off the pace for both those goals.
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Post by xplosivgas on Aug 7, 2016 9:34:21 GMT
I think their 2nd and 3rd goals were definitely saveable. Maybe need a younger keeper with a bit more Spring in his legs.
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 7, 2016 9:44:54 GMT
Goal analysis......fortunate deflection on the cross still ended up at Taylor ,who did well to set himself up for the shot. Good goal maybe a defender could have made an effort to block the shot but not sure if that was possible.
First scunthorpe goal: weak defensive headers, good goal no keeper fault ,maybe a defender could have tried blocking the shot ?
Second Scunthorpe goal : seemed like a Player running alongside training ground dummies before shooting. Needed so one to take responsibility and close down. Keeper was flat footed and slow leaving the ground a more agile keeper would have been disappointed to have let that one in.
Third Scunthorpe goal: defence appeared to be pulled out of position ,nobody picked up the runner from deeper and then no defender was anywhere near him as he came to the box. Sloppy midfield play and very poor central defending looked like Lockyer was the one trying to get back into position (?) Keeper a little slow going down but the blame lies elsewhere really.
Steve Yates will be unhappy with the boys on Monday morning for sure !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 9:47:07 GMT
I think their 2nd and 3rd goals were definitely saveable. Maybe need a younger keeper with a bit more Spring in his legs. If you drop keepers based on the 3rd there wouldn't be any left. It's quite clear as well that the keeper shouldn't even be tested on the 2nd, needs to be closed down. I agree long term a keeper is needed but a central midfielder who can break up the play has to be the priority. |
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Post by milesy83 on Aug 7, 2016 10:45:58 GMT
2nd goal was poor not closing down. No way Down to keeper. He shouldn't be aloud to run unchallenged that far
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Post by keygas on Aug 7, 2016 11:00:24 GMT
Yesterday goals conceded show how much we miss Lee Mansell ,he reads the game so well and gets in tackles to break play up.
Hopefully is injury not too bad & he will back in contention soon as I think we always look a tighter unit with him in the side.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2016 11:40:35 GMT
I think their 2nd and 3rd goals were definitely saveable. Maybe need a younger keeper with a bit more Spring in his legs. If you drop keepers based on the 3rd there wouldn't be any left. It's quite clear as well that the keeper shouldn't even be tested on the 2nd, needs to be closed down. I agree long term a keeper is needed but a central midfielder who can break up the play has to be the priority. Having watched Joe Hart performances in the Euros I doubt he would have done any better yesterday, not sure what fans expect from a lower league goalie. I thought Gaffers was a bit unlucky for the goal when his clearance went straight back to the Scunthorpe player who'd just crossed the ball over, just a pity he couldn't head out it for a corner or over the player. |
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