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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 7:18:01 GMT
Recently, I was asked to describe how Clarkes Rovers play.
It's a real head scratcher as I struggle to explain this. Other Rovers teams had an easily recognised style - the 451 percentage play of Ward, the pragmatism of Francis, even Buckle, albeit sh**, had a commitment to wingers.
It's very difficult to sum up this team and its style but a few broad statements can be made, here is what I came up with:
We tend to sit off teams and don't press them high.
We like the full backs to get forward
We like two up top and attack in most circumstances
That's all I had, I am no tactician but if any of you have other observations on the mechanics of the team, I'd be interested to hear....
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Sept 21, 2016 7:29:57 GMT
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 21, 2016 7:29:57 GMT
Kind of agree. Hate to say it but I would aliken it to the Gary Johnson style of play of a few years ago when Yeovil had some success playing that way. Probably wrong though!
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Post by singupgas on Sept 21, 2016 7:52:53 GMT
Agree, we do sit back and invite pressure which I think works against us, as I have said before and much of last season, the team are much stronger going forward than playing a holding role saying try break us down. Proof of this is, we have conceded first in all games so far this season.
Love to see us just play some free flowing attacking football which we always try to do if we are behind.
Think we need to start picking our strongest 11 though, last 3 or so games now, players are coming off the bench and seem to improve our dynamics immediately, why not start these players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:11:39 GMT
Agree, we do sit back and invite pressure which I think works against us, as I have said before and much of last season, the team are much stronger going forward than playing a holding role saying try break us down. Proof of this is, we have conceded first in all games so far this season. Love to see us just play some free flowing attacking football which we always try to do if we are behind. Think we need to start picking our strongest 11 though, last 3 or so games now, players are coming off the bench and seem to improve our dynamics immediately, why not start these players. start with which players? its not always the same players coming off the bench after all?? also this rovers team have been very effective at breaking away and scoring goals and won 2 promotions with this style so it cant be that bad can it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:18:53 GMT
Recently, I was asked to describe how Clarkes Rovers play. It's a real head scratcher as I struggle to explain this. Other Rovers teams had an easily recognised style - the 451 percentage play of Ward, the pragmatism of Francis, even Buckle, albeit sh**, had a commitment to wingers. It's very difficult to sum up this team and its style but a few broad statements can be made, here is what I came up with: We tend to sit off teams and don't press them high. We like the full backs to get forward We like two up top and attack in most circumstances That's all I had, I am no tactician but if any of you have other observations on the mechanics of the team, I'd be interested to hear.... i would add that this team wants to play good football on the deck and always set out to do that,what struck me at chelsea for example was that for the whole 90 minutes we passed the ball and played good football. that said the team is capable of adapting and playing longer balls when it serves them best. |
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Post by markczgas on Sept 21, 2016 8:19:27 GMT
We generally pass it on the deck, and generally play through the thirds. However, we do hit long and high to Harrison (when he is playing).
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Post by markczgas on Sept 21, 2016 8:25:14 GMT
Agree, we do sit back and invite pressure which I think works against us, as I have said before and much of last season, the team are much stronger going forward than playing a holding role saying try break us down. Proof of this is, we have conceded first in all games so far this season.
Love to see us just play some free flowing attacking football which we always try to do if we are behind. Think we need to start picking our strongest 11 though, last 3 or so games now, players are coming off the bench and seem to improve our dynamics immediately, why not start these players.Not true, Scunthorpe, Oxford and Southend. The game has changed. With 3 subs to bring on teams/managers can play one way to see if they can stay in a game or nick a goal lead and then put on different players, if required, to add more firepower, pace, trickery etc. I think DC knows the limitations of his team and doesn't want to go too open/attacking from the start in case it backfires - if we had gone 2 down to some of these teams we would've definitely lost. It has been very fine margins so far this season. If later in the season, we are doing well and so confidence is high, I think DC will play more attacking from the start as he did in the last 15 games in L2. That's my take on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:38:52 GMT
To be fair, me and few of my rovers associates always said the defining characteristics of the teams from 2011 to relegation was players running through our midfield with the back four back peddling. Running straight through us.
I'm not sure if I am for us attacking more. We aren't streets ahead of anyone in this league.
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Sept 21, 2016 18:19:53 GMT
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Post by singupgas on Sept 21, 2016 18:19:53 GMT
Agree, we do sit back and invite pressure which I think works against us, as I have said before and much of last season, the team are much stronger going forward than playing a holding role saying try break us down. Proof of this is, we have conceded first in all games so far this season.
Love to see us just play some free flowing attacking football which we always try to do if we are behind. Think we need to start picking our strongest 11 though, last 3 or so games now, players are coming off the bench and seem to improve our dynamics immediately, why not start these players.Not true, Scunthorpe, Oxford and Southend. The game has changed. With 3 subs to bring on teams/managers can play one way to see if they can stay in a game or nick a goal lead and then put on different players, if required, to add more firepower, pace, trickery etc. I think DC knows the limitations of his team and doesn't want to go too open/attacking from the start in case it backfires - if we had gone 2 down to some of these teams we would've definitely lost. It has been very fine margins so far this season. If later in the season, we are doing well and so confidence is high, I think DC will play more attacking from the start as he did in the last 15 games in L2. That's my take on it. Can't argue with that you're right but picking up 2 points out of 9 isn't a great return. If we are just aiming to get over the the line this season. With 50 something points and be bottom half then the way are we playing should do it. I guess I would like to see more from us and belive we are capable of doing so. Having been to all games but Southend, I can honestly say that other than Bolton we could have beaten most. Don't get me wrong though I am enjoying every minute of this season as i have last couple, great to see players put 100% in. |
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Sept 21, 2016 20:43:24 GMT
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Post by rambo on Sept 21, 2016 20:43:24 GMT
Not true, Scunthorpe, Oxford and Southend. The game has changed. With 3 subs to bring on teams/managers can play one way to see if they can stay in a game or nick a goal lead and then put on different players, if required, to add more firepower, pace, trickery etc. I think DC knows the limitations of his team and doesn't want to go too open/attacking from the start in case it backfires - if we had gone 2 down to some of these teams we would've definitely lost. It has been very fine margins so far this season. If later in the season, we are doing well and so confidence is high, I think DC will play more attacking from the start as he did in the last 15 games in L2. That's my take on it. Can't argue with that you're right but picking up 2 points out of 9 isn't a great return. If we are just aiming to get over the the line this season. With 50 something points and be bottom half then the way are we playing should do it. I guess I would like to see more from us and belive we are capable of doing so. Having been to all games but Southend, I can honestly say that other than Bolton we could have beaten most. Don't get me wrong though I am enjoying every minute of this season as i have last couple, great to see players put 100% in. 2 points from 9??? If you're talking about the 3 games we scored first in, we picked up 4 points. Last 3 games, 5 points. |
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Post by lpgas on Sept 21, 2016 21:19:50 GMT
I'd say that it changes every week
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Sept 21, 2016 21:57:32 GMT
According to Swindon's goalscorer Jones: “There were a few tired legs out there and Rovers’ game-plan was just to knock it long and they’ve scored off two long balls."
So our style is knock it long then ! You just keep telling the rest of the league that me old son..it'll confuse the heck out of them when we pass it through them or use the wings to go round them!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 22:03:32 GMT
According to Swindon's goalscorer Jones: “There were a few tired legs out there and Rovers’ game-plan was just to knock it long and they’ve scored off two long balls." So our style is knock it long then ! You just keep telling the rest of the league that me old son..it'll confuse the heck out of them when we pass it through them or use the wings to go round them! I would just let him have it. I'm happy he is a part of a team who play apparently tiki taka stuff, he's welcome to his beautiful creative football. We will take care of the points. ...but give that team a big well done and an A for effort - well done Swindon! |
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Post by curlywurly on Sept 21, 2016 22:28:53 GMT
Jones needs to watch the video again.
I prefer their manager's take on the game:
“In the end they deserved to win the game because they were brave, they kept putting the ball forward, they kept fighting for everything, running for the flick-on and we didn’t match that. They deserved to win the game. You can’t keep just trying to hold on to a 1-0 lead for 85 minutes – it is impossible and it is a silly tactic for us in particular. We need to try to be with the ball more in order to defend with the ball and we didn’t do that. We looked like we wanted to hang on and in the end we could not do that. It could be after some bad results that there is now a lack of belief. We went 1-0 up and we looked very, very good in my opinion up until the goal and probably the minutes immediately afterwards. And then, slowly, slowly less belief and we got deeper trying to soak up the pressure and hold on to the lead, but it is too long to hold out for."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 23:14:44 GMT
According to Swindon's goalscorer Jones: “There were a few tired legs out there and Rovers’ game-plan was just to knock it long and they’ve scored off two long balls." So our style is knock it long then ! You just keep telling the rest of the league that me old son..it'll confuse the heck out of them when we pass it through them or use the wings to go round them! swindon were very vulnerable to good long balls into the channels and space behind there defence and rovers exploited it through gaffney,taylor and bodin in the 1st half and continued to trouble swindon in the 2nd half but they were not just punts up the field they were accurate long passes. |
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