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Post by peterparker on Sept 27, 2016 19:27:07 GMT
To be fair Sterling seems revitalised since Guardiola has come in. Headless chicken,terrible player. Not watched him this season then? The worlds best manaver seems to rate him |
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Post by socrates on Sept 27, 2016 19:29:45 GMT
I've been saying that for years. He'd take it but they won't offer him It because they're clueless ( yes Tbone like DC) |
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 27, 2016 19:41:07 GMT
I've been saying that for years. He'd take it but they won't offer him It because they're clueless ( yes Tbone like DC) You are right unfortunately the fa won't touch him, in my opinion England played very good football under him and we were able to actually play well against the bigger boys and give them a decent game , unlike the dross we have to endure nowadays. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 27, 2016 19:44:35 GMT
I've been saying that for years. He'd take it but they won't offer him It because they're clueless ( yes Tbone like DC) You are right unfortunately the fa won't touch him, in my opinion England played very good football under him and we were able to actually play well against the bigger boys and give them a decent game , unlike the dross we have to endure nowadays. The players also seemed to care a lot more in those days than they do now though. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 27, 2016 19:54:30 GMT
You are right unfortunately the fa won't touch him, in my opinion England played very good football under him and we were able to actually play well against the bigger boys and give them a decent game , unlike the dross we have to endure nowadays. The players also seemed to care a lot more in those days than they do now though. Very true sadly , the sad thing for me in all of this is that in all honesty I don't really care anymore , I mean when it comes to the national team it's one embarrassment after another. I thought that big Sam could of got the best out of a fairly average bunch , looks like I was wrong ! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 19:55:24 GMT
The real crime here is that Gareth Southgate will be able to list 'England Manager' as an accomplishment on his CV
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Post by socrates on Sept 27, 2016 20:02:28 GMT
I've been saying that for years. He'd take it but they won't offer him It because they're clueless ( yes Tbone like DC) You are right unfortunately the fa won't touch him, in my opinion England played very good football under him and we were able to actually play well against the bigger boys and give them a decent game , unlike the dross we have to endure nowadays. Yeah they bottled it with Hoddle. His personal religious beliefs should never have been grounds for dismissal. If they'd said forget about that here's a 12 year contract build a national squad that can compete with the best I honestly believe we would have won a tournament or a least got to a final or two. |
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Post by miamigas on Sept 27, 2016 20:04:20 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOO, no, no, no, no, no! What's he going to do? Get faith healers in to rub holistic crystals over players injuries? Ask him what they should do about the disabled parking spaces outside Wembley 'cos according to him, they are being punished for crimes they committed in a previous life. Fool, we should want no truck with a human being like that. Rant over. UTG! |
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Post by popuppirate on Sept 27, 2016 20:09:15 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOO, no, no, no, no, no! What's he going to do? Get faith healers in to rub holistic crystals over players injuries? Ask him what they should do about the disabled parking spaces outside Wembley 'cos according to him, they are being punished for crimes they committed in a previous life. Fool, we should want no truck with a human being like that. Rant over. UTG! Was a great footballer, but comes across as a when co-commentating. He's stuck in the 80's and if he's the best we can drag up I'd rather go foreign again |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 27, 2016 21:58:23 GMT
You are right unfortunately the fa won't touch him, in my opinion England played very good football under him and we were able to actually play well against the bigger boys and give them a decent game , unlike the dross we have to endure nowadays. Yeah they bottled it with Hoddle. His personal religious beliefs should never have been grounds for dismissal. If they'd said forget about that here's a 12 year contract build a national squad that can compete with the best I honestly believe we would have won a tournament or a least got to a final or two. Had a few heated debates with a mate at the time. I remember the press wanted 'King' Kevin Keegan so once they had something on him they wouldn't let go until he went. I agree that it was a mistake at the time, not sure about appointing now though. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 27, 2016 22:02:54 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOO, no, no, no, no, no! What's he going to do? Get faith healers in to rub holistic crystals over players injuries? Ask him what they should do about the disabled parking spaces outside Wembley 'cos according to him, they are being punished for crimes they committed in a previous life. Fool, we should want no truck with a human being like that. Rant over. UTG! Was a great footballer, but comes across as a when co-commentating. He's stuck in the 80's and if he's the best we can drag up I'd rather go foreign again Whilst I wouldn't be against it, I just can't see the FA going for a foreign manager. I suspect he will be British/Irish and have a strong connection with the English League. Would like Martin O'Neill but can't see him taking it and to be honest I wouldn't blame him. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 28, 2016 5:15:42 GMT
Eddie Howe looks the outstanding candidate for me.
English, progressive profile, bold move, safe from a media aspect (you'd think).
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 28, 2016 7:16:57 GMT
Eddie Howe looks the outstanding candidate for me. English, progressive profile, bold move, safe from a media aspect (you'd think). I agree. He's perfect in many ways with just the nagging doubts that he didn't cope very well when he went to Burnley and hasn't really had to deal with any big egos in the game. I'd like him to get it, I think he'd be a breath of fresh air, but our elite players can be morons - 'what did you ever achieve in the game' etc. Probably wouldn't be an issue in many countries, but here it is, unfortunately. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 28, 2016 7:26:11 GMT
Eddie Howe looks the outstanding candidate for me. English, progressive profile, bold move, safe from a media aspect (you'd think). I agree. He's perfect in many ways with just the nagging doubts that he didn't cope very well when he went to Burnley and hasn't really had to deal with any big egos in the game. I'd like him to get it, I think he'd be a breath of fresh air, but our elite players can be morons - 'what did you ever achieve in the game' etc. Probably wouldn't be an issue in many countries, but here it is, unfortunately. I keep seeing this pop up but I'd argue he done alright, he joined after Laws who isn't a great manager and kept them steady in the championship whilst signing the likes of Ings and Trippier who ended up being key players in their promotion the season after he left. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 28, 2016 7:44:39 GMT
I agree. He's perfect in many ways with just the nagging doubts that he didn't cope very well when he went to Burnley and hasn't really had to deal with any big egos in the game. I'd like him to get it, I think he'd be a breath of fresh air, but our elite players can be morons - 'what did you ever achieve in the game' etc. Probably wouldn't be an issue in many countries, but here it is, unfortunately. I keep seeing this pop up but I'd argue he done alright, he joined after Laws who isn't a great manager and kept them steady in the championship whilst signing the likes of Ings and Trippier who ended up being key players in their promotion the season after he left. I don't disagree with the on the pitch stuff, I just mean that he moved back to Bournemouth as he was home-sick, admittedly after a difficult personal time. The guy is obviously deceptively tough to work the miracles he has done at Bournemouth but sometimes managers are suited to particular teams. It is a question mark as to whether he can replicate it at international level, but then if you asked me if I would prefer him to Southgate, Bruce or Pardew? Obviously, yes! |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 28, 2016 7:49:26 GMT
Meh.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 8:18:28 GMT
Below is the list of the nineteen managers who have won the World Cup, plus the European Championship winning managers. How many of them were great club managers? The point I'm trying to make is that it appears to win a major international tournament does not mean you had to have been a great club manager. It's a different mindset, different skillset, so why do we keep looking for manager's like Wenger etc, and just why do people think Eddie Howe would fit the bill?
World Cup winning managers:-
Enzo Bearzot
Franz Beckenbauer
Carlos Bilardo
Vicente del Bosque
Vicente Feola
Sepp Herberger
Aimé Jacquet
Marcello Lippi
Juan López Fontana
Joachim Löw
César Luis Menotti
Aymoré Moreira
Carlos Alberto Parreira
Vittorio Pozzo
Alf Ramsey
Helmut Schön
Luiz Felipe Scolari
Alberto Suppici
Mário Zagallo
European Championship winning managers:-
Luis Aragonés
Vicente del Bosque
Jupp Derwall
Michel Hidalgo
Václav Ježek
Gavriil Kachalin
Roger Lemerre
Rinus Michels
Richard Møller Nielsen
Otto Rehhagel
Fernando Santos (Portuguese footballer)
Helmut Schön
Ferruccio Valcareggi
José Villalonga Llorente
Berti Vogts
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 9:23:37 GMT
Glad SA has gone, never wanted him in and seemed to carry on where Hodgson left off in his only game, in terms of performance and personnel.
No sympathy for SA either, 3 million a year and the greedy b*****d is still scratching around for more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 10:01:02 GMT
The media obsession to bring Glenn Hoddle back into management is quite baffling. It's all very odd. I wouldn't be surprised if Southgate gets the gig until the summer before Wenger takes up the post. Gives him the perfect semi retirement job and the ideal way to leave Arsenal. He would be the perfect candidate as well. |
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Post by socrates on Sept 28, 2016 10:29:30 GMT
The media obsession to bring Glenn Hoddle back into management is quite baffling. It's all very odd. I wouldn't be surprised if Southgate gets the gig until the summer before Wenger takes up the post. Gives him the perfect semi retirement job and the ideal way to leave Arsenal. He would be the perfect candidate as well. The problem with Wenger getting the job is that I don't believe we've got the technical ability in our squad to play the wenger way. I wouldn't be against it I'm just not sure it would work or that he'd want that kind of stress at this point in his life, he seems quite relaxed at Arsenal. |
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