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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 17, 2016 8:35:48 GMT
www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/10659697/ian-holloway-says-gareth-southgate-should-not-be-made-to-wait-for-the-england-postNew QPR boss Ian Holloway says Gareth Southgate should already have been named the permanent England manager. And Holloway has criticised the FA's handling of the situation, feeling that they should not have sacked Sam Allardyce in the first place and that, having done so, they subsequently 'undermined' Southgate. Allardyce took charge after England's disappointing Euro 2016 campaign but lasted just one match, leaving his post after he made contentious remarks to undercover Daily Telegraph reporters. Southgate was then promoted from his post as U21 boss on an interim basis for the remaining four games of 2016, and led England to two wins, including a 3-0 defeat of Scotland, and a pair of draws. Following Tuesday's 2-2 draw with Spain, Southgate is hot favourite to continue in the role, but he will have to wait while an FA selection panel consider their options. Southgate is the leading contender to take the England job on a full-time basis Holloway thinks the delay is unnecessary and hit out at the FA for their treatment of Southgate during the first press conference of his second spell at QPR on Wednesday. "If I was them, I would have made a decision there and then to give it to him," said Holloway. "I mean, he has been undermined for four games, if you ask me. 'Oh, you have got four games, one of them is a friendly'. "He has carried himself with real class but I don't think the FA have carried themselves with real class. 'Oh, we are going to take our time'. To do what? "What have you been doing, any one of you? Who are you? "That is how I feel. Give him the job." Adrian Bevington believes Gareth Southgate has earned the right to be made national team manager Holloway also feels Allardyce was harshly treated, questioning the decision to end his tenure so abruptly. "Would I have got rid of Sam on a newspaper scam?" he said. "Probably not. "Sam could have made Gareth even better, because he could have taught him. "For me, it's a bit of an embarrassment. The best managers I have felt, in that job, have been hounded out. "What are we doing? What are we doing to our own game?"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 11:49:28 GMT
I agree with Holloway on this - typical, classless FA way of handling things.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 17, 2016 12:10:29 GMT
I agree with Holloway on this - typical, classless FA way of handling things. I'm not really sure what I think to be honest. I don't really think that Southgate is the right man. It makes the FA look unsure however. It is obvious that Southgate is going to get it (unless he did drastically bad in those 4 games) so they may as well as given it to him straight away. I don't like the sound of a potential 4 year contract though, what has he done in his managerial career to be given such a long contract. If I was part of the FA then I would suggest that if they do appoint him, he is given a contract until 2018 with a realistic target in that world cup which will automatically renew his contract if he achieves that otherwise at least review his performance before offering another contract. |
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Post by grayraydon on Nov 17, 2016 13:34:24 GMT
Rovers related?
Please move mods.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 13:36:35 GMT
Rovers related how!?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 13:41:57 GMT
England manager makes little difference when hardly any of the players they have to choose from are world class.
Too many johnny foreigners in the top flight that our top clubs are honing the skills of. How many English players play in Italian, Spanish, French & German leagues??
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Post by gasincider on Nov 17, 2016 16:43:17 GMT
Christ, how many more threads will he start? Can this part of the forum go back to talking about all things gas please?
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Post by jaggas on Nov 17, 2016 18:52:14 GMT
England manager makes little difference when hardly any of the players they have to choose from are world class.
Too many johnny foreigners in the top flight that our top clubs are honing the skills of. How many English players play in Italian, Spanish, French & German leagues??
It's no coincidence decent managers continually fail in this post. How many world class players did the Portugal manager have to choose from for Euro 2016? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 19:55:21 GMT
England manager makes little difference when hardly any of the players they have to choose from are world class.
Too many johnny foreigners in the top flight that our top clubs are honing the skills of. How many English players play in Italian, Spanish, French & German leagues??
It's no coincidence decent managers continually fail in this post. How many world class players did the Portugal manager have to choose from for Euro 2016? More than ours. |
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Post by jaggas on Nov 17, 2016 20:38:23 GMT
Yeah one player so how many world class players did the German bloke have to pick from Greece when they won Euro 2004?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 5, 2017 19:50:42 GMT
Southgate has really stamped his personality on this team.
Utterly boring and uninspiring.
The guy is a loser.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 6, 2017 5:54:16 GMT
Southgate has really stamped his personality on this team. Utterly boring and uninspiring. The guy is a loser. I actually agree with a lot of what he says but I also can't see him inspiring me if I was a player and he has no track record of doing anything as a manager. We aren't good enough at the moment though either in all honesty. If we get into the last 16 then that would be an achievement for me. Just saying that shows how we have gone backwards though. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 6, 2017 6:11:02 GMT
Southgate has really stamped his personality on this team. Utterly boring and uninspiring. The guy is a loser. I actually agree with a lot of what he says but I also can't see him inspiring me if I was a player and he has no track record of doing anything as a manager. We aren't good enough at the moment though either in all honesty. If we get into the last 16 then that would be an achievement for me. Just saying that shows how we have gone backwards though. England just have no personality though. No spirit, no fight, just utterly soul-less. I can accept us not being a good side, but that was yet another disinterested shambles. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 6, 2017 6:43:22 GMT
I actually agree with a lot of what he says but I also can't see him inspiring me if I was a player and he has no track record of doing anything as a manager. We aren't good enough at the moment though either in all honesty. If we get into the last 16 then that would be an achievement for me. Just saying that shows how we have gone backwards though. England just have no personality though. No spirit, no fight, just utterly soul-less. I can accept us not being a good side, but that was yet another disinterested shambles. Kane and Rashford set good examples for the rest of the English lads. I agree with the rest in general though generally lacking in passion and soul. I agree with what GS says about the players though. They are suffering with failures of previous England teams before them and carrying that burden. That was obvious in the game vs Iceland, as we had the team there to beat them but the players froze. We need some big characters when the going gets tough. Rooney was not a leader of men IMO and was captain by default. Kane is better captain material IMO and is one that will lead by example. He is also captain by default though as there is nobody else. |
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Post by yatetown85 on Oct 6, 2017 13:34:20 GMT
The sooner he's let go the better, then the FA board can follow!
I'd say we're as bad now with the football as we were in the 90's with the cricket! What happened there? All the out of touch board got given the boot and started again!
Southgate is a complete hypocrite who's massively out of his depth!
Saying that, I bet we snore ourselves to the final and win 1-0...
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 6, 2017 14:28:03 GMT
We won't even get out of our group at the finals.
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Post by aghast on Oct 6, 2017 19:27:21 GMT
We won't even get out of our group at the finals. I'm sure the Russians will "arrange" things to make sure the big-money national sides progress out of their groups. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 9, 2017 6:12:48 GMT
The guy would struggle to get a job with a championship team.
The sorry state of our national team means that nobody else wants the job. Big Sam would have been able to get more out of this team, not sure how much more!
Its so sad now with the complete lack of interest and faith in the national side. Nobody expects us to even get out of a world cup group anymore!
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 9, 2017 7:59:56 GMT
Really struggling to get any affinity with the national side at the moment, especially friendlies but increasingly also the qualifying matches.
Such a shame, maybe it'll change when the Group stages start but I'm not holding my breath.
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